Comments on: BYD FD3M, World’s First Mass Produced Electric Car, Not Catching on in China

By: Rickster

Rickster — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:21:44 +0000

To: “Uncle B”
In a perfect world, I (and everyone else, with a BRAIN) couldn’t agree with you more, but unless certain things hopefully, and drastically “change”/adapt/move out of the way/…, namely Exxon, GM, Ford, Monsanto, …., , then it ain’t ever gonna happen.
Its not that “we” can’t, its that they won’t let us.
If it isn’t Tesla making a $100K+ ridiculously unaffordable EV, then its other B.S, auto-makers purposely willing to produce $20K crap that is “electrically” not even as worthy as my my old Eldon Race car set. !
We know they could easily make a “good” $20K EV that, at the worst case scenario, you might have to put another $4K->$8K over a 10 year expanse, plus everything else you mentioned above. ?
So, bottom-line, the powers that be don’t want that, they want everyone to pay as much as we can possibly bare at their greatest profit margins. It really is sad.

By: Uncle B

Uncle B — Fri, 29 May 2009 14:06:03 +0000

The Chinese must get out from under the constant copying of the American Status Quo and build a two seater, tandem style, carbon fiber and plastic bodied, 150 mile range battery plug-in that can be charged using a solar cell energy pack exchange system on the garage roof! If your batteries die in town, someone can bring you a new freshly charged set, slip them in, and away we go! First all car makers must give up weight – them they must give up doodads, next they must adapt to the electric motor for a lifetime of cars concept – the body gets shabby, we take out our electric motor and put it in a new body! Batteries will always have to be recyclable, exchangeable and rechargeable. Humanity will be forced away from the current model by astounding rises in the price of oil, coming very soon to a very greedy world! Eventually personal transportation will give way to trains anyway, but for the time being, a new paradigm will prevail, away from the Detroit model, and heavily influenced by the aerospace industries.

By: Bob G

Bob G — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:35:14 +0000

#66 GM PUMA says, “… I just wish that American auto engineers had half the work ethic that these chinese do. Most American Engineers are fat snail-paced slobs.”

That’s a surprising assertion, considering how productive American workers are in comparison the their foreign counterparts. I suppose you have data from the US Department of Labor, or results from a reputable scientific survey to support your assertion. No? Maybe you met a guy once who you thought was fat and slow, so you assumed he must have been an American engineer. No? Maybe you have no facts, so you resort to childish personal insults instead. No? Maybe you have nothing valuable to contribute to society, so instead you criticize the work of others. No? Maybe you are just a big dumb, stupid, poopy face – so na na-na na naaa naaa!

By: The Chinese BYD FD3M, First Mass Produced Electric Car, Fails with Consumers : Gas 2.0

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:24:54 +0000

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By: Electric Vehicle Owner

Electric Vehicle Owner — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:41:30 +0000

@ Herm 119

1. Excellent exposition for a lay audience. Those EPA changes were put in place on their fuel economy site well over a year ago. I like the US-06 cycle, myself.

2. No one seems to know this, but the US DOE/EPA set up a metric that allows direct comparison between any types of vehicle, # kWh / 100 miles, a long, long time ago. A gallon of gasoline has about 36 kWh of energy in it (depends on who you ask and how much low energy corn ethanol you pollute it with), which demonstrates its excellent energy density. I suggest the DOE Kids Page and then just do the conversion from megajoules to kWhs. Easy.

3. I’d love to hear an honest discussion about at vehicle (at vehicle energy taken to produce total vehicle cycle miles) efficiency metrics. I have yet to see one on the internets.