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		<title>By: Dan Petit</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2009/04/10/volt-becoming-the-new-edsel/#comment-116306</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Petit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let Moore buy the GM Camaro that he likes,  let the rest of us buy the Voltec vehicle that we like.
Not all of us can have the opportunity to buy a Voltec vehicle the first few years.
 Let us count on the &quot;one track mindedness&quot; of Moore, who must &quot;puppet to his petro-greedy audiences&quot;  via the &quot;weasel street journal&quot;.   That is all they will ever have to say about anything.

 As far as Federal ownership of GM,  there will be a massive repurchase of that portion of ownership by the public very quickly in the New GM, I predict.  The receivership is merely a legal transitioning from one era to another era,

  The green electric motoring era.

 I have not ever bought stock in any company.

I will buy stock in the New GM as I can afford.

I&#039;ll bet Moore will go right out there and buy GM stock as well, as quickly as he can, and as much as he can (nay-saying all the way to the brokerage, in hopes that the stock won&#039;t skyrocket before he can get there), because he knows that the Voltec vehicle line will have performance (financial as well as horsepower) characteristics that will blow the doors off both of  his previous benchmarks.  This is precisely how your competitors  work to buy the New GM stock operate, as a function of their greed to make money.
Let there be a new GM nationalism to buy everything GM.
Dan Petit Austin TX.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let Moore buy the GM Camaro that he likes,  let the rest of us buy the Voltec vehicle that we like.<br />
Not all of us can have the opportunity to buy a Voltec vehicle the first few years.<br />
 Let us count on the &#8220;one track mindedness&#8221; of Moore, who must &#8220;puppet to his petro-greedy audiences&#8221;  via the &#8220;weasel street journal&#8221;.   That is all they will ever have to say about anything.</p>
<p> As far as Federal ownership of GM,  there will be a massive repurchase of that portion of ownership by the public very quickly in the New GM, I predict.  The receivership is merely a legal transitioning from one era to another era,</p>
<p>  The green electric motoring era.</p>
<p> I have not ever bought stock in any company.</p>
<p>I will buy stock in the New GM as I can afford.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet Moore will go right out there and buy GM stock as well, as quickly as he can, and as much as he can (nay-saying all the way to the brokerage, in hopes that the stock won&#8217;t skyrocket before he can get there), because he knows that the Voltec vehicle line will have performance (financial as well as horsepower) characteristics that will blow the doors off both of  his previous benchmarks.  This is precisely how your competitors  work to buy the New GM stock operate, as a function of their greed to make money.<br />
Let there be a new GM nationalism to buy everything GM.<br />
Dan Petit Austin TX.</p>
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		<title>By: fas</title>
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		<dc:creator>fas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Volt might be successful but competing with the likes of the Prius and then the Telsa wont be an easy job. Oh wait Honda&#039;s got the Insight too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Volt might be successful but competing with the likes of the Prius and then the Telsa wont be an easy job. Oh wait Honda&#8217;s got the Insight too.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2009/04/10/volt-becoming-the-new-edsel/#comment-106717</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This WSJ writer is obviously technically illiterate and just knows nothing about EVs. Most of us have to admit it&#039;s only through logic and imagination that we know what an Ev drives like because few of us have been in any EV other than a train. If this WSJ writer knew how much stump pulling torque the Volt will have and how fast it will be off the line he&#039;d forget about V8s.

I myself drive a 5.7Lt LS1 V8 as my daily driver but it&#039;s only for the torque. I&#039;m straining at the leash to get an EV because I know they cost 1/20th per mile what my Gen 3 costs to run, don&#039;t eat themselves alive with heat stress due to the engine wasting 85% of the energy that goes through it... AND have MORE low down torque than my V8.

An EV like a Tesla makes a mockery of any V8 in terms of acceleration... and this WSJ writer sounds like he simply fantasizes about driving the fastest car on the road.... soon that will be ANYTHING EV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This WSJ writer is obviously technically illiterate and just knows nothing about EVs. Most of us have to admit it&#8217;s only through logic and imagination that we know what an Ev drives like because few of us have been in any EV other than a train. If this WSJ writer knew how much stump pulling torque the Volt will have and how fast it will be off the line he&#8217;d forget about V8s.</p>
<p>I myself drive a 5.7Lt LS1 V8 as my daily driver but it&#8217;s only for the torque. I&#8217;m straining at the leash to get an EV because I know they cost 1/20th per mile what my Gen 3 costs to run, don&#8217;t eat themselves alive with heat stress due to the engine wasting 85% of the energy that goes through it&#8230; AND have MORE low down torque than my V8.</p>
<p>An EV like a Tesla makes a mockery of any V8 in terms of acceleration&#8230; and this WSJ writer sounds like he simply fantasizes about driving the fastest car on the road&#8230;. soon that will be ANYTHING EV.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hydrogen infrastructure can be built as the cars come into
existence.  Hydrnol, a product that asemblon is going to market,
will be available along Interstate 5 soon.  Fortunately, asemblon
will be offering to modify ICE cars and trucks to run on hydrogen.

There are many ways to acquire hydrogen and the sooner we
get started the better.

I have a web site with links to other resources on hydrogen and
some of my own comments on the subject:

http://web.robinson-west.com/michael/hydrogen

So called environmentalists who are so called experts calling for
the abandonment of the hydrogen highway in favor of having a
recharging station every 40 miles or so are overlooking a lot of
things.  First off, what impact will these batteries have on the
environment when they wear out?  Second, if the range of battery
electrical cars fails to increase from 40 miles to 400 without increasing the weight and size of the battery, how will chemical
battery EVs ever become a practical replacement for gasoline
ICE cars/trucks?  Third, the battery as of now in the Volt alone
is too expensive to be practical.  Fourth, Mercedes will be marketing
a fuel cell electric vehicle for $30k in the near future.  Fifth point,
electrolysis is not the only pathway to hydrogen and even gasoline
involves a large energy input.  Six, the electrical grid in it&#039;s current
state has very little spare capacity where hydrogen pipelines are
MUCH cheaper than high voltage lines and they go underground
resulting in less harm to the environment.  I think these PHD&#039;s who
are against hydrogen are closed minded fools.

Hydrogen infrastructure can be built as fuel cell cars come to market
in a gradual approach.  Distributed production of hydrogen is a very
real possibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hydrogen infrastructure can be built as the cars come into<br />
existence.  Hydrnol, a product that asemblon is going to market,<br />
will be available along Interstate 5 soon.  Fortunately, asemblon<br />
will be offering to modify ICE cars and trucks to run on hydrogen.</p>
<p>There are many ways to acquire hydrogen and the sooner we<br />
get started the better.</p>
<p>I have a web site with links to other resources on hydrogen and<br />
some of my own comments on the subject:</p>
<p><a href="http://web.robinson-west.com/michael/hydrogen" rel="nofollow">http://web.robinson-west.com/michael/hydrogen</a></p>
<p>So called environmentalists who are so called experts calling for<br />
the abandonment of the hydrogen highway in favor of having a<br />
recharging station every 40 miles or so are overlooking a lot of<br />
things.  First off, what impact will these batteries have on the<br />
environment when they wear out?  Second, if the range of battery<br />
electrical cars fails to increase from 40 miles to 400 without increasing the weight and size of the battery, how will chemical<br />
battery EVs ever become a practical replacement for gasoline<br />
ICE cars/trucks?  Third, the battery as of now in the Volt alone<br />
is too expensive to be practical.  Fourth, Mercedes will be marketing<br />
a fuel cell electric vehicle for $30k in the near future.  Fifth point,<br />
electrolysis is not the only pathway to hydrogen and even gasoline<br />
involves a large energy input.  Six, the electrical grid in it&#8217;s current<br />
state has very little spare capacity where hydrogen pipelines are<br />
MUCH cheaper than high voltage lines and they go underground<br />
resulting in less harm to the environment.  I think these PHD&#8217;s who<br />
are against hydrogen are closed minded fools.</p>
<p>Hydrogen infrastructure can be built as fuel cell cars come to market<br />
in a gradual approach.  Distributed production of hydrogen is a very<br />
real possibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Herm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a lot of the high prices were due to speculation, and I think that will be controlled in the future..

This collapse and $2 gas has dealt a terrible blow to alternate fuels, oil exploration and electric cars.. and probably to investments in oil refineries. The fuel subsidies in China did not help either.

Luckily Tata Nanos will take a few years to ramp up to million cars production rates.

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#196 
Alex E Says: 
April 11th, 2009 at 9:16 am
The only thing keeping the price of fuel down to about $2.00 per gallon right now is the miserable economy we are all slogging through. What will happen when the credit gates open, the economy starts to roar again, and sales of new cars take off through the roof?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a lot of the high prices were due to speculation, and I think that will be controlled in the future..</p>
<p>This collapse and $2 gas has dealt a terrible blow to alternate fuels, oil exploration and electric cars.. and probably to investments in oil refineries. The fuel subsidies in China did not help either.</p>
<p>Luckily Tata Nanos will take a few years to ramp up to million cars production rates.</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
#196<br />
Alex E Says:<br />
April 11th, 2009 at 9:16 am<br />
The only thing keeping the price of fuel down to about $2.00 per gallon right now is the miserable economy we are all slogging through. What will happen when the credit gates open, the economy starts to roar again, and sales of new cars take off through the roof?</p>
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