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First Genuine Chevy Volt Integration Vehicle to be Completed on June 1, 2009

 

Currently GM has a few more than 30 Cruze-shell mule prototypes running around the proving grounds and in various test facilities. These cars have been performing flawlessly. Though containing a near-final Chevy Volt powertrain and battery, they do not possess the true Chevy Volt interior or exterior design.

The next critical stage in Volt development process will be the building of true to form and function Chevrolet Volt prototypes. This particular level of vehicle are known as integration vehicles or as GM calls them, IVers.

Andrew Farah, the Volt’s lead engineer actually has a countdown clock in his office revealing that 63 days from today, assembly of the first true Volt will start. All the parts will be lined up at the low volume assembly facility and will begin to come together that day. Andrew notes the first one will take longer to produce, but for all intents and purposes will come to life on June 1st. They will then be built at a rate of roughly 10 per week until a total fleet of over 80 is completed.

Those cars “will look, taste, smell, and feel like the Volt. They are the Volt,” said Farah “my goal is by Forth of July to be out driving several of them.”

By the fall, it could be argued that GMs Volt fleet will surpass the size of the fleets of many of the start-up electric car manufacturers.

According to Greg Ceisel, GM’s Voltec manager, 2010 will bring several more build stages. “We’ve got several phases leading up to the production launch where we build larger and larger batches,” says Ciesel “in each phase as we perfect the production process, make sure we’ve got all the fit finish and other details exactly correct and that the quality of the vehicle meets our standards before we go into the first vehicles that will ultimately be saleable vehicles that will be shipped to the dealerships.”

He said there will be “a hundred or so” of these final pre-production Volts that will also act as a captured test fleet for mostly GM employees.

By November of 2010 the first saleable Volts will begin being built at the Hamtramck plant and shipped to dealerships.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (6:00 am)

    Une 1, I guess thats from the Astec callander


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (6:03 am)

    Ha ha; now this is progress.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (6:20 am)

    I wonder when the fist Opel Ampera IV will be built. No news on this anyone ?

    Regards,

    JC LJGTAWOTR !!


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (6:23 am)

    Great to have a specific projected date. Regarding the phrase in the post By the fall, it could be argued that GMs Volt fleet will surpass the size of the fleets…, I’m a little cautious. :)

    LJGTVWOTR even just 1 Volt.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (6:34 am)

    Two thoughts:

    1. Lyle should get to drive one of these prototypes.

    2. GM’s approach — building successively bigger batches to work out the production glitches — speaks to its experience vis-a-vis start-ups like Tesla. Recall how far behind it fell in its initial production goals because it had skipped this step.

    I read a lot of comments here about GM dragging its feet, or that they just need to go ahead and start selling the Volt. No, they need to get this car right the first time, and they are displaying the requisite patience to do so.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (6:35 am)

    Now this is a great Volt story. Go GM. We should start hearing more about these as these hit the road in larger numbers.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (6:55 am)

    Geezzzzzzzzzz:

    I take a few days off, because of all the “bad news” financial posts, and that is when some really good Volt threads appear – go figure!

    This is good news. Fully functional Volts on the road, at last!

    Maybe GM could plan for some fan appreciation days, so we could at least get to see one of these vehicles up close. If you want to build momentum, people need to see and touch the product.

    Just something to think about.

    Go GM! Go GM Volt Team!!

    NPNS


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (6:59 am)

    I love GM’s relentless drive to completion!


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (7:01 am)

    check the spelling on the title… “Vehilce” :)


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (7:22 am)

    Vehilce is just an oversight. Lyle is a busy man.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (7:23 am)

    Not knowing much about car development, I wonder if these steps are the same for any major new car platform from a large manufacturer.

    Think of the expense of building 80 cars JUST for testing. Remember folks, none, and I mean NONE of these cars will ever get sold to the public. They will all be crushed after testing is complete to avoid any potential law suits.

    This is the burden of a large company doing business in the U.S. Start up’s can’t afford to do this level of testing and buying one of their cars makes you a beta tester for the start up’s.

    For the folks that think these electric bubble builders are going to change the world in a few short years. They will go bankrupt in a class action lawsuit the first time one of their products shorts out and burns down a house.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (7:27 am)

    Well LG Chems on record as saying they are contracted to provide 400 battery packs this year, so I hope we can read about Lyles’ test drive on July 4th? It sure will make Tagamets day.

    Obviously, I am assuming the money keeps flowing.

    By November of 2010 the first saleable Volts will begin being built at the Hamtramck plant and shipped to dealerships.

    So, what is it about November 2010 you don’t understand?
    Bob Lutz : 2007

    LJGTVWOTR
    NO plug, NO sale.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (7:29 am)

    (Cut to scene in Rocky where Adrian is in the crowd, whispering, “He’s gonna DO it”.)
    “YO ADRIAN, I DID IT…” (Rocky dances around with arms raised overhead)
    Well, you get the idea.
    “YO GM…!”

    Statik’s take on it:
    Yeah, right. Not soon enough. Not nearly enough of them. They still expect it to be released in Nov. 2010???? (insert possible “believe in the Easter Bunny” remark).
    GO GM
    be well,
    Tag

    LJGTVWOTR!!**********NPNS


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (7:31 am)

    Since the Cruze cars are making such wonderful mules, I wonder when the Cruze will be its own EREV.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (7:32 am)

    Solo says: Think of the expense of building 80 cars JUST for testing. Remember folks, none, and I mean NONE of these cars will ever get sold to the public. They will all be crushed after testing is complete to avoid any potential law suits.

    Times are tough now Solo, they will use them for crash testing. Any left over will be kept safe as collateral for the loans extended, just in case . . . .

    /tongue in cheek.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (7:35 am)

    From this point forward, things will really speed up. GM needs to keep to the schedule and keep on their toes because the competition is right on their heels…

    Raser Hummer H3 Series E-REV SUV
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaHdwHWvHmQ&feature=related

    I wonder if you can make a business model of retrofitting older vehicles into E-REVs using Raser tech? I’ve seen no pricing yet. As usual, it’s all about the batteries.

    Here’s the Jeep Patriot E-REV
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMLjcNP6qKo

    You don’t NEED tiny little cars for E-REVs to make sense! You just need a cost effective battery pack and there is LOTS of competition in this area too. Battery prices are already dropping even while the tech improves.

    Cheap energy storage will allow E-Homes where the primary electrical source is roof top or local renewable (solar or wind) with the power stored in the home’s own battery pack which only occasionally needs the cheap off peak electricity from the grid. THIS is the holy grail of widely distributed power and a smart grid!

    Distributed renewable energy used at the source of production is almost impervious to terror, geopolitics or limited fuel sources. It doesn’t waste power by moving it around and it doesn’t produce pollution except during the manufacture of components which is where pollution is most easily contained/reduced.

    Go GM! Give us an impetuous to produce better and cheaper electron storage! Help move us out of the age of oil and into the Electron Age!


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (7:41 am)

    Where are all the vaporware trolls ?


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (7:45 am)

    He said there will be “a hundred or so” of these final pre-production Volts that will also act as a captured test fleet for mostly GM employees.

    So does that mean that some non GM employees will be getting one of the pre-production volts? Personally I think they’re waiting to give Lyle a test drive because when they give him the keys they won’t take them back. I kinda think he’ll get one of these so he has more blog fodder leading up to November 2010.

    As for Crushing the volts when testing is complete, how about using the 80 or so as demos at the auto shows. I would have gone to the Philly auto show if it would have had the volt. If I would have gone, maybe I would have fallen in love with some other GM product and replaced my Vanagon! Nah, don’t think so NPNS but I’d still like to see the volt at my local auto show.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (7:58 am)

    Warning!

    Now that GM makes the highest quality vehicles on the planet, ie. Buick, and is achieving its goals with the Chevy Volt, watch out for the cockroaches coming out of the woodwork to criticize GM.

    It drives these critics mad to contemplate that they are now wrong about GM. The fact that their rants about GM quality and the usual venom they spew is now invalid makes them cringe.

    So wait for new attacks. They will find all kinds of devious ways to show how these latest achievements are really nothing and are somehow false or just PR stunts, etc.

    But GM will carry on stoically and change the way we drive forever.

    GO GM!

    GO VOLT!


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (8:00 am)

    They should take the pre-productions and auction them off for charity. Now, where did I put those 501(c)(3) forms that I started filling out for GM?


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (8:10 am)

    TO GM

    You need to bring a Volt to NYC for Lyle to test drive, maybe a month after you have tested a particular vehicle and are comfortable with its performance. THINK ABOUT IT, ASK THE MARKETING DEPT. Where else could you take it and know that you were actually showing it to at least 50,000 people that WANT TO BUY IT!!! If you took it to an auto show in LA there would not be that many who are allready sold. Plus nearly all on this site would be telling everybody we know, get on line and go to gm-volt.com and see what I am going to buy.

    I tell you again, you will not be able to build them fast enough!


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (8:28 am)

    16. Tim

    You are the rightest guy on this blog for seeing the way of the future.
    New battery technology opens up a lot more than EREVs as you noted and let me join you in kudos to GM for providing the impetuous “impetus”. What else would you call a risky multi-billion dollar development plan when your ship is sinking and the water is chilling your cahones? A government program?
    Volt still has a pricing problem as far as we know – fingers crossed.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (8:35 am)

    <<<>>>>>>>

    I worked as a Design/Development Engineer at Chrysler 25 years ago. That was are standard appraoch for a new car line. We came out with a Mule, then some handbuilt Pre-Prototypes, then Prototypes, then pre-production cars off the assembly line.

    For the original Minivan we used some cut down vans and K-Cars for the Mules.

    For the Omni-Horizon L-Body cars we took some VW Rabbits and cut them in half and widened them. We first used the 1.8L Rabbit engine then when we got our first 2.2L Chrylser engines they went into the early mules.

    There were a tremedous number of development tests to do. We had hundreds of engines on dynos running 24 hours a day. We had crash tests, corrosion tests, cold weather tests, road trips, endurance tests at the proving grounds, hot weather tests at the proving grounds in Arizona, steep grade tests on the California “Grape Vine”.

    I think most people don’t understand how big a job it is to develope a new car and make sure it works from day one when we buy our cars. The Edsel proved what a failure it could be if it was not sone correctly.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (8:46 am)

    Glad to know we will be seeing a production intent prototype shortly.

    I am also pleased to see hard numbers/deadlines, rather than guesstimates.

    As I understand it from this post:
    June 1st, 2009: start of mock line to produce production intent Volts
    July 4th, 2009: more than 1 production intent Volts built
    End of August: fleet of 80 completed (roughly 10 per week once first is out)

    I really don’t see these goeals as a problem for GM (despite Tag’s pre-emptive thoughts on my take), because this action would come after a the gov’t decision on giving GM another 16.6 billion or so. So if GM is ‘successfull’ this week, they should be able to accomplish this without breaking a sweat.

    Side note:
    As Tag pointed out however, I can never be totally positive, and I like keeping things in perspective, and being accountable…so I will take this opportunity to mention a news article here from 9 months ago that featured comments from the “Pink Tie wearing” one:

    “He (Lutz) said the first cars to look like the “real Volt” will appear at the end of this year (2008), and that by spring and summer of 2009 there will be “several hundred” of these and thats when the final integration vehicles will appear. Those will be used for crash and safety, and he notes public early drives and media events will commence” – June 6th, 2008
    http://gm-volt.com/2008/06/06/big-news-video-bob-lutz-discusses-his-chevy-volt-test-drive-and-the-current-state-of-development/

    /for the record I’m still glad to hear this news today. Late or not, this is a major step, and I hope Lyle does get that drive (and reports all the details back to us) real soon


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (8:49 am)

    Cool !!

    “Cheap energy storage will allow E-Homes where the primary electrical source is roof top or local renewable (solar or wind) with the power stored in the home’s own battery pack which only occasionally needs the cheap off peak electricity from the grid. THIS is the holy grail of widely distributed power and a smart grid!”

    YES YES YES!!

    “Where are all the vaporware trolls ?”

    They had to stop at the gas station. GO VOLT!!


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (8:51 am)

    I can’t wait to see these buzzing around. Getting publicity and interest building.

    I am hopeful that GM is actually able to accelerate the build up and launch to before November 2010. Keeping our fingers crossed…


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (8:53 am)

    #9 Chuck B: “check the spelling on the title… “Vehilce” :)

    Also the word usage in the article: “by Forth of July” should be “by the Fourth of July.” The omission of “the” may be part of the actual quote in which case it deserves a [sic] to note that the error is known and is carried over from the source. Additionally, unless the quote was delivered via email the fourth/forth error is a typo. If delivered via email another [sic] should be inserted. As forth is a real word, a spell checker would likely not catch the error although a “word usage checker” should.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (9:01 am)

    This isn’t surprising since it’s exactly the schedule GM talked out before, only with an exact date for the integration cars rather than the more general “summer”. But having a clock makes is more real, eh?

    #13 Tagamet — Hee hee hee. Nailed him (his response I mean)!

    #16 Tim and #22 Shawn — Not seeing any dramatic price drops. But you’re right about the battery cost. GM’s opting for the presumably lower cost and lower performance battery pack is a good indication of this.

    $23 RamZ says “I think most people don’t understand how big a job it is to develope a new car”

    Unbelievably complicated. One of the reporters who covered the Volt story said he started out wondering why it took so long to develop a car and, after he got into the story, started wondering how anyone ever developed one at all. Hard hard hard.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (9:03 am)

    Statik@24

    Yo Statik! Did you recently change your meds?(g). If not, I want some of whatever you’re smoking – it sure has mellowed you out!
    Be well,
    Tag
    LJGTVWOTR!!**********NPNS**********Independence Day ride by Lyle!!!!


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (9:03 am)

    Very, very, VERY good news.

    Congratulations, GM.

    Sure I know it’s not done yet, but when you are within 63 days of a milestone this big in a multi-year project, obviously you can see your goal is about to be realized.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (9:07 am)

    It is so encouraging to see the Volt go from a concept to this stage.

    Yesterday, I test drove some electric scooters. They were “assembled” in China. Total POSs. I could almost feel them falling apart as soon as I sat on them. It made me appreciate brand name automakers’ dedication to quality. As much as I want my Volt now, I want it to be a quality vehicle. GM, I hope you find the right balance between doing it right and doing it quickly.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (9:17 am)

    This is some of the news we have all been waiting to hear about. Actual Volts on the streets being tested. Good article, Lyle. Keep it coming. Good luck, GM and keep Lyle informed. And how about that test drive for Lyle.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (9:21 am)

    I heard an item on the radio last night about how some GM managers (about 6000 I think) get “company cars” (they do have to pay $250 admin fee per month). The issue they talked about was that it was a perk that some thought those on the tax payer’s dime should not have and it isolated employs from the facts of life for more customers.

    Another way to look at the radio report was 6000 beta testers and quality inspectors. Maybe a hundred of them will be beta testing Volts.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (9:22 am)

    Lyle, I know you get a lot of ribbing about misspelled words in your posts. But, hey, you can’t be blamed for that. You are using the same spell checker that Statik uses. So, what is the problem?


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (9:24 am)

    I bet some of these first 80 Volts will be used as part of the crash test vehicles GM will use to get the proper government approvals. After they have been used for some road test this year, I would assume. Crash testing would probably be done later this year to give engineers time to make adjustments.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (9:35 am)

    #24 statik says “I can never be totally positive”

    Or, apparently, ever fair to Bob Lutz. :-) You seem to be saying that the information Lutz gave was incorrect, but your quote suggests he was quite accurate. His statement was that “by spring and summer of 2009 … the final integration vehicles will appear.” We are talking about the final integration vehicle aren’t we? And Isn’t June 1 spring and summer 2009? (Technically it’s still spring but summer is only a few weeks away).

    I’m just not seeing what you think is inconsistent.

    #33 Mark Bartosik says “that it was a perk that some thought those on the tax payer’s dime should not have and it isolated employs from the facts of life for more customers”

    This whole public review of everyone’s salary and job benefits is getting old and out of hand, even for a populist leaning guy like me. Next they’ll be saying GM employees shouldn’t have a cafeteria because some people need to eat at soup kitchens. Somehow we’re conflating hard working employees with the the clowns at AIG who almost brought down the financial system and then payed themselves huge bonuses.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (9:36 am)

    From #21, Old Man:

    “I tell you again, you will not be able to build them fast enough!”

    Ever since I eagerly read and dreamt about the EV1, I’ve been waiting for GM to finally make an affordable (and widely available) EV. We’re not there yet, but today’s news give me hope. Like Old Man, I absolutely believe they will not be able to build them fast enough. Too bad they are not available now!

    I was ready to give up, setting my sights on the new Ford Fusion Hybrid, Honda Insight, or Civic Hybrid. Today’s Good News are just what I needed to hold on…just two more years!!??


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (9:37 am)

    Integration Vehicle production = Good news

    Hope you soon get a test drive in an “IV”, Lyle!

    Side note: I’m really, really hoping whatever determination the Gov’t. makes on March 31st doesn’t involve the slowing/shuttering of the Volt and Voltec powertrains work. It is amazing to see how this little electric car project has become one of the biggest arguments to keep GM alive.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (9:41 am)

    #37 Anderson…. I am with you on this one… Personally I am looking at the Fusion Hybrid and the Civic Hybrid. (not a fan of the Insight). And I will be buying one of the 2 in Sept. of this year… this should tide me over till the Volt becomes available in Central Alberta Canada.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (9:44 am)

    @17, Guido:

    >> Where are all the vaporware trolls ?

    Over at TTAC.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (9:47 am)

    Wow. I wonder how GM will choose the lucky 100 test drivers. These 99 GM employees (subtracting out the one that Lyle gets) must be highly favored, or just perfected the art of sucking up to the right people. Then again, they may not be considered so lucky, as there will be about 1,000 Volt-stalkers per person trying to get a look, an interview, a ride, or whatever. They may have to get restraint orders against gm-volt.com readers. (Not like that would stop us)


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (9:48 am)

    Tim wrote:

    Cheap energy storage will allow E-Homes where the primary electrical source is roof top or local renewable (solar or wind) with the power stored in the home’s own battery pack which only occasionally needs the cheap off peak electricity from the grid. THIS is the holy grail of widely distributed power and a smart grid!
    ——————————————————————————-

    “As of 1970, solar energy was impractical because the cells cost way too much, were very inefficient at capturing sunlight, and had fairly short useful lives. The government was pouring billions each year into solar research, so it was expected that solar would become practical in a few short years.

    In the past 40 years, there have been press releases almost every month claiming the “definitive scientific breakthrough” that finally makes solar cost effective.

    The reality is nothing has changed since 1970. If the problem could not be solved in 40 years, there is room for some skepicism about whether it is solvable.

    Falsely optimistic claims for solar are bad for America’s future, because the deflect attention from a proven and cost effective solution, nuclear power.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (9:53 am)

    @21 old man:

    >> You need to bring a Volt to NYC for Lyle to test drive

    Never mind a mere test drive! They need to GIVE him one of the first, for all his selfless trouble and the fact that he’s single-handedly generated more interest in this product than their entire PR machine ever could. And, he did it three years before it’s even gonna hit the market!!

    The only downside I can see to that deal is, when will Lyle have time to practice medicine? I mean, considering the mountain of questions, gawkers, TV-show appearances, and guest-ride requests that is bound to crash down upon him when he gets his VIN < 005, 100%-gratis Volt.

    Which he will, if there is either a GOD or any JUSTICE in this world.

    Poor guy’s gonna be a celebrity (even more than he is now)!!


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (9:56 am)

    #42 Tom H
    “The reality is nothing has changed [regarding solar energy viability]since 1970.”

    Is that true? Are you telling me that I could not find one solar energy advancement since 1970?


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:06 am)

    Lyle, don’t let all this praise go to your head. I know you are a regular guy just like the rest of us. And you put your pants on one leg at a time. But, good work. Keep it up.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:08 am)

    I see GM is moving very slow and deliberate with this Volt.
    It would have been better if they looked at how airplanes are currently built. Although they take longer than cars, if you did ALL testing/developing on supercomputers (including the manufaturing setups) via simulation routines there is absolutely NO reason it should take this long to produce a fully functioning Volt. In should take at the very most 24 months to get a new vehicle in full production given today’s state of technology. I assume GM is not using the most advanced computers or have incompetent engineers or are not providing their engineers with the best tools. Bottom line is SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS COMPANY !!!


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:09 am)

    ATTN GM: At VoltNation in NYC just over a year ago (unknown to Dr. Lyle Dennis) one other gm-volt.com enthusiast and I circulated hand-carried petitions requesting that General Motors present a production Chevrolet Volt to Lyle as an honorarium in recognition of his dedicated voluntary service in the interest of promoting the development of the world’s first E-REV automobile. Every VoltNation attendee who signed those petitions did so enthusiastically and without hesitation, with the under- standing that they would be followed by an online petition (that would be independent of gm-volt.com but made known to its members) which would likely result in many thousands of additional signatures.

    Dr. Lyle Dennis, upon learning of our petition planning —in a modest and selfless gesture— asked that we not pursue the petition effort. We relunctantly agreed to abide by his wishes. However, we remain persuaded a year later that Dr. Dennis, more than any other individual (other than GM employees), deserves to receive an early production model of the Volt for his tireless and unselfish dedication to the E-REV concept and to the development of the Volt itself.

    Therefore, I hereby respectfully request and enthusiastically urge General Motors to make Dr. Lyle Dennis an honorary recipient of one the first fully-equiped Chevrolet Volt production automobiles at absolutely no cost to him. (This post is made without his knowledge or approval.)

    Anyone concurring with this request is invited to indicate so below.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:12 am)

    With all of the foreign 2009 vehicles being stockpiled at the dock in California and American 2009 vehicles at different sites around the country, there is going to be one heck of a “fire sale” before the 2010 vehicles are released for sale this fall. They have got to do something soon, you would think. Plus, this “fire sale” is going to suppress sales of the 2010 models. Either that or there is going to be a tremendous number of 2009 models not sold.

    Going to be an interesting time this summer and fall for “new” car buyers, I bet.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:13 am)

    #47…

    I concur.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:14 am)

    #47 nasaman

    TOTALLY AGREE

    If not for gm-volt.com I would have lost interest as the concept car looked good but not something I would have purchased. But with this site I could stay up to date on the volt with ease while hopeing GM would come out with THIS VOLT.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:17 am)

    #47 nasaman

    Ditto for me too. Lyle deserves some recognition from GM for his efforts. I understand fully what it takes to do what he has been doing now for over two years. Promoting the Volt on this site is a very time consuming process. Kudos to Lyle for the swell job he is doing. GM, the ball is in your court.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:30 am)

    Give me solar and household hydrogen power generators over the ugly wind farms anyday.

    Good news for the Volt and great news for GM with the awards. I own an Enclave and I completely agree. Great quality. A large (near quantum) leap in quality (and design) over the nine GM cars/wagon/van/SUV I have been associated with since my parents got a ’84 Celebrity wagon…


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:38 am)

    Tim, Thomb, vaporware my arse.

    Is energy stored at home the holy grail for renewable energy? Yes, probably. Tim #16 makes a good point, thanks.

    But must the energy be stored in battery packs? Maybe not. Just ran across this idea(New to me!) Maybe what we need is a “flywheel in every garage, ” (or in every neighborhood?) and a Volt. Good stuff. More than one way to skin a cat!

    read flywheel comment at http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/04/solar-thermal-power-photos-how-much-world-europe-germany.php

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flywheel_energy_storage


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:41 am)

    #47 nasaman

    You have my vote…YES!


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:46 am)

    From the article: He said there will be “a hundred or so” of these final pre-production Volts that will also act as a captured test fleet for mostly GM employees.

    I’m a GM family member… is that close enough????

    thought not… but worth a shot.

    P.S. #47… Absolutely… he can have mine ;)


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:47 am)

    #47 I agree completely.

    What an extraordinary job Lyle has done and continues to do! GM would have trouble buying something like this blog at any price, much less the price of a Volt.

    Lyle should get Volt #1!


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:48 am)

    #42 Tom H says “The reality is nothing has changed since 1970.”

    Nanosolar is shipping $1/watt PV panels. That’s cheaper than coal.

    The baseline problem is still there of course but obviously solar is now cost comparable with conventional sources of energy. If we had cost effective mass storage this remaining issue would also be resolved. We need hydrogen or batteries or something to make it a complete solution. We’ll see. (I also saw an article on cold fusion, you never know!).

    #47 nasaman

    Very nice thought but to the extent Lyle is a journalist he couldn’t accept it. My guess is that he would be uncomfortable with the obvious conflict of interest issues this would present. On the other hand if he was OK with the idea I’d be happy to support it. But we should be careful to take our cues from him on this one.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:50 am)

    Fun video: The world’s fastest street legal electric car.

    20 min to charge, 0-60 in 3 sec

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAYrsEOxqYc


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:51 am)

    57 DonC… Don’t forget Lyle’s real job is Neurology


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:51 am)

    #47 NASAMAN:

    I emphatically agree!


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:52 am)

    #29 Tag said:

    Statik@24

    Yo Statik! Did you recently change your meds?(g). If not, I want some of whatever you’re smoking – it sure has mellowed you out!
    Be well,
    Tag
    LJGTVWOTR!!**********NPNS**********Independence Day ride by Lyle!!!!
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    No…same meds, lol. I have long reconciled myself to deadlines being missed and release datesbeing over ambitious…although I can’t help reiterating them, hehe.

    I’m at the point now, where progress…from anybody…or of anytype is better than nothing.

    /call that a quasi ‘glass half full’ outlook I suppose…maybe you are wearing me down


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:54 am)

    I have the strong feeling that this level of testing and creating pre-production cars is most unusual. I am not familiar with this aspect of the industry. Has there ever been a new car so thoroughly researched and tested?

    With all this attention, Volt has to be on track to becoming a remarkable car.

    Wouldn’t it be fun to see Volt as the #1 car for
    JD Powers, Car and Driver, etc, etc.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:55 am)

    Great news. Bring it on!

    Did everyone hear the President hammering away on the energy issue last night? The Volt is one of the most promising tools out there to advance the cause of energy independence and to control oil prices. The Feds would seem almost compelled to figure out a way to keep this project alive.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:55 am)

    #34 N Riley said:

    Lyle, I know you get a lot of ribbing about misspelled words in your posts. But, hey, you can’t be blamed for that. You are using the same spell checker that Statik uses. So, what is the problem?
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    /real men don’t use spell checkers
    //if you think his spelling is bad, wait until you see his handwriting… he is a doctor after all


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (10:58 am)

    I concur.

    One other thing: Please make the seats front and back softer and more comfortable so that my wife will want one too. She passed on the Malibu Hybrid because the seats (especially in back) are not much softer than a cardboard box.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (11:00 am)

    #47 nasaman

    I back your sentiment 100%. Maybe he can’t be a test driver, because GM doesn’t want him blabbing about his every experience, but I see no reason to give him a very low # production Volt…like #002.

    /you can’t buy good/honest press like Lyle gives…and a ‘wicked,’ open, non filtered discussion forum that we can all go crazy on every day


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (11:03 am)

    #64 Statik

    “/real men don’t use spell checkers
    //if you think his spelling is bad, wait until you see his handwriting… he is a doctor after all”
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    Funny man!


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (11:05 am)

    The Prius is putting up some great mpg numbers! Sixty or seventy mpg in real world situations is very impressive. Congrats to Toyota:

    http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/03/25/first-drive-2010-toyota-prius-puts-up-big-numbers/#continued


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (11:05 am)

    Sweet!


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (11:12 am)

    #53 D.

    What? I was not agreeing with Tim.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (11:13 am)

    #59 nasaman

    i know this is not his main occupation but he is acting increasingly like a journalist. He’s doing first interviews, covering breaking news items, and so forth. It’s really up to him and how he looks at it. I’m fine either way, just bringing up why he may not be comfortable with your thoughtful proposal.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (11:28 am)

    Cuts in oil production have already begun to lay a floor under prices as the US oil price rose to a high of $53.86 on Wednesday.

    Looks like oil could easily pass the $100.00 level just as the Volt hits the market. The economy picks up and they don’t increase the supply and oil will hit $150.00. GM Volt will take off like a rocket!


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (11:30 am)

    #47 nasaman – You got my vote for sure!

    One for Lyle as soon as they’re ready to roll!


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (11:38 am)

    #57 DonC Says: Nanosolar is shipping $1/watt PV panels
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    Have they started selling these retail yet?


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (11:44 am)

    #47 nasaman

    Therefore, I hereby respectfully request and enthusiastically urge General Motors to make Dr. Lyle Dennis an honorary recipient of one the first fully-equipped Chevrolet Volt production automobiles at absolutely no cost to him. (This post is made without his knowledge or approval.)

    Anyone concurring with this request is invited to indicate so below.

    There should not be any argument about this. What a cheap price to pay for all this free publicity.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (11:47 am)

    Well KUD, since even you & Statik agree Lyle should have a Volt, how can GM do otherwise? :)


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (12:05 pm)

    #74 Dave G

    #57 DonC Says: Nanosolar is shipping $1/watt PV panels
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    Have they started selling these retail yet?
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    No, not even close yet.

    I tried/inquired to get 100kW first order (and then maybe more)…I received a polite, ‘no thanks’ form letter saying they basically dealt direct through big boys on government projects, but they’d keep me up to date on their happenings. I also tried to get around them, like going through CoEnergy on the sly…no luck there either.

    I also talked to a large US distributor of paneling, who had made attempts to purchase– they were rebuffed pretty much the same way as me…and they were talking MW orders.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (12:06 pm)

    #57 DonC Says: (regarding cheap solar panels) The baseline problem is still there of course but obviously solar is now cost comparable with conventional sources of energy. If we had cost effective mass storage this remaining issue would also be resolved. We need hydrogen or batteries or something to make it a complete solution.
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    I see this whole problem very differently.

    Solar energy is the perfect solution for our peak energy needs, since peak demand is on hot sunny days. For baseline load, nuclear and/or geothermal would be better. So with the proper mix of energy sources, I don’t really see the need for solar energy storage.

    Solar thermal has been cost comparable with coal for many years. Solar thermal also has the ability to use natural gas to cover unexpected peaks if necessary. If we have a grid that can carry windmill power hundreds of miles, then it could also carry solar thermal from the south west to most of the U.S..

    If solar power storage becomes necessary, solar power tower designs use liquid sodium to store the intense heat for later power generation:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_tower

    With regard to using NanoSolar arrays for power plants, I wonder what the land use comparison would be against solar thermal. My gut feeling is that solar panels will be best for roof tops, and solar thermal will be best for power plants. But who knows, time may prove me wrong on this.


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    #74 Dave G

    I’m fairly sure all the production is going to Germany and that all the panels are being used for large projects. Production is still an issue even as costs are still dropping.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (12:11 pm)

    Tom H (#42):

    The big deal in that paragraph (and the one I was responding to in my comment), was “Cheap energy storage.”

    Whether it’s smaller batteries in houses, or gigantic ones at substations, batteries would allow the most economic “baseline” power plants to meet most electrical demand throughout the day. In a sense, the entire grid would become a hybrid.

    Economical, large-scale energy storage would also even out variability in certain other alternative energy sources such as wind power (for which tractor-trailer-size sodium sulfur batteries are currently being tested).

    nasaman (#47): Agree


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (12:12 pm)

    #68 DonC said:

    The Prius is putting up some great mpg numbers! Sixty or seventy mpg in real world situations is very impressive. Congrats to Toyota:

    http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/03/25/first-drive-2010-toyota-prius-puts-up-big-numbers/#continued
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    Thanks, had not seen that review yet. It would seem that EPA numbers put out on hybrids are fairly easy to beat (by a good margin) if your so inclined. (I know I wouldn’t want to be in the car for whoever put up the 94.6MPG number…or behind him, lol)

    I think that is the moral of the story for the Prius/Insight (and other aggressive hybrids)…if you really want those great numbers, hit the ECO button and drive gingerly.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (12:13 pm)

    thomb #70, my bad. didn’t mean to conflate your ideas with Tim’s, except with regard to “vaporware.” :-(


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (12:18 pm)

    Here is one for statik — a video of the i-Miev on test drives in CA. I like the video of the soldier. It correctly suggests the choice is having them drive EVs here or Humvees in places like Iraq.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y17ydMkyw2Y


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (12:19 pm)

    Looks like the Nov 2010 is pretty solid. If they stick to as everyone suggests so they can “Get It Right” then theoretically it better be close to flawless, especially after waiting for soo long. And if it is not, I dont want to hear any BS about “they should’ve taken their time…”.

    I’m a soild buyer for the Volt as long as the “Loan” that I need to purchase the car does not exceed $37500.00.

    The ICEAge is over, Embrace the VoltAge.

    I’ll take my Volt with No Generator, No ICE, ShAkEn not StirreD…


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (12:20 pm)

    DonC

    Did you see the review over at Jalopnik? They tested the mileage at 102 MPG, and got 26.6…guess that new .25 cd helps a lot at that speed, hehe. (If you ask me, driving a Prius around at 102 seems a little scary)

    Seems even driving it like a retard with the battery maxed out they were getting over 40 MPG, so thats very good…and they figure most regular drivers will well exceed 50MPG, with the hypermillers well into the mid 70s.

    http://jalopnik.com/5182950/2010-toyota-prius-first-drive


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    #85 statik (me)

    Er, that should have read:

    They tested the Prius at 102 miles per hour MPG…not MPG, and got 26.6 MPG.

    /real man


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (12:23 pm)

    …son of a bee sting

    Best 3 of 5:

    “They tested the Prius at 102 miles per hour MPH…not MPG, and got 26.6 MPG.”

    /huzzah! sweet success


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    #68 DonC Says: The Prius is putting up some great mpg numbers! Sixty or seventy mpg in real world situations is very impressive. Congrats to Toyota:
    http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/03/25/first-drive-2010-toyota-prius-puts-up-big-numbers/#continued

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    To put this in perspective, With a typical driving pattern, assuming you only charge overnight:
    Vehicle ……………… Gallons per year
    Volt ………………….. 37
    70 MPG car ………… 163
    60 MPG car ………… 190
    50 MPG car ………… 228
    30 MPG car ………… 380
    20 MPG car ………… 570


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (12:29 pm)

    #83 DonC said:

    Here is one for statik — a video of the i-Miev on test drives in CA. I like the video of the soldier. It correctly suggests the choice is having them drive EVs here or Humvees in places like Iraq.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y17ydMkyw2Y
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    Thanks, would have been nice if they taped it without the windows rolled now…geesh.

    Interesting to hear the EPA cycle number (76 miles), I think that is more inline with what we were thinking…the Japanese cycle is a little amibitious to say the least.

    Side note: The guys says Mitsu is the only company to employ UAW workers? Is that right? That can’t be good. (j/k)


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (12:32 pm)

    So if June 1 is the first I.V., when do you think GM will release real world numbers on the AER and the MPG in extended range mode???

    Also, when will we hear more about Volt Ver 2.0?


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (12:33 pm)

    General Motors Corp. said in a government filing Thursday that its accounting firm has found there is “substantial doubt” about the automaker’s ability to survive. The embattled automaker made the disclosure in a 480-page filing with the Securities & Exchange Commission. GM has sustained large and continuing losses, while saying it needs additional federal loans to remain in business. Thursday’s statement from the company’s auditors presents another hurdle the automaker will have to clear as it makes the case that it deserve additional taxpayer support going forward.

    Let GM bleed out, and sell their Volt technology to a company that can get it right. I’m tired of my hard earned tax dollars going to a company that’s going to go belly up in less than a few months!


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (12:34 pm)

    Tim #16

    According to Farah’s schedule there will be 10,000 instantly mobile 8 kWh distributed energy storage subsystems (Volts) installed at N. American homes by 1 January 2011.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (12:37 pm)

    #90 k-dawg said:

    So if June 1 is the first I.V., when do you think GM will release real world numbers on the AER and the MPG in extended range mode???
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    Historically, we find out about things like final MPG only a couple months before they go on sale…sucks but that is life, I’m sure we will get lots of rumors to pass the time though.

    (I assume the release of AER numbers would be a similar scenario)


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    NASAMAN #47

    Aaaabsolutely! May he be one of the others to get a turn with a pre-production prototype. I’m sure he could appease GM’s wishes (cone of silence period or the like) and still meet any journalistic ethical dilemmas.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (12:44 pm)

    Finally some good and real news. It’s like spring and the sun came out for the first time in months. Mr. Farah may be our best source of reliable, meaningful information.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (12:48 pm)

    #91 Voltfail.. isnt that from March 5th? Hey, but thanks for the dated “news”.

    (sorry for feeding the troll… i got bored)


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    Mike-o-Matic Says:
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    @17, Guido:

    >> Where are all the vaporware trolls ?

    Over at TTAC.
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    93 statik Says:
    March 25th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
    #90 k-dawg said:

    So if June 1 is the first I.V., when do you think GM will release real world numbers on the AER and the MPG in extended range mode???
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    Historically, we find out about things like final MPG only a couple months before they go on sale…sucks but that is life, I’m sure we will get lots of rumors to pass the time though.

    (I assume the release of AER numbers would be a similar scenario)
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    Yeah, just some wishful thinking, hoping it will be sooner, with the whole more transparent approach thing GM is trying. Or at least some words of confidence from the IV, not a test mule.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (12:56 pm)

    GM is starting to turn a bit. Nice to see they no longer need the 2 Billion and that their cash burn rate has dropped.

    Concessions with unions are good in Canada (done) and hopefully will work out in the uSA as well (have not heard of finalizing for them yet)

    Make Jun 1 seem even more likely


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    statik — I hadn’t seen the test drive on Jalopnik. I’m more a point A to point B kinda guy than a driving aficionado, but I will say the car looks better too. From the back it reminds me of a Bob Lutz Caddy with all those sharp angles. LOL

    The change in Cd might be helpful. (Note the Aptera has a Cd of .15 and a relatively small frontal area which should really make for considerably less drag). But I don’t think that small change in the Cd is driving the better mpg numbers at higher speeds. I think those are the result of changing the gearing. The Prius is always in top gear and the old top gear was more efficient at highway (45 mph) than expressway (60-70 mph) speeds.

    Not to be too cynical, but the change from the old EPA two cycle standard to the new five cycle drive standard may have encouraged Toyota to tune it more for the real world. Under the old system there was an incentive to tune cars for far less aggressive driving than what most people would experience. (Hey, since we always beat up on government maybe we should give the EPA some kudos here).

    The wind noise on the i-Miev was distracting but when you’re leaning out of a second car “filming” I’m not sure much can be done! I wonder if the top speed of 81 mph is because the tires are only rated for that speed? The car should go faster, no?


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    #47 NASAMAN

    Count me in.


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    #100 DonC said:

    Not to be too cynical, but the change from the old EPA two cycle standard to the new five cycle drive standard may have encouraged Toyota to tune it more for the real world. Under the old system there was an incentive to tune cars for far less aggressive driving than what most people would experience. (Hey, since we always beat up on government maybe we should give the EPA some kudos here).

    The wind noise on the i-Miev was distracting but when you’re leaning out of a second car “filming” I’m not sure much can be done! I wonder if the top speed of 81 mph is because the tires are only rated for that speed? The car should go faster, no?
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    I never really thought about the cycle change in relation to auto manufacturers tuning that much, but doesn’t seem unreasonable to me.

    As for the EPA itself, I have no quams at all. I like the new system, and the fact that what they give you for a number is what most can expect…and if you want to do better, you know you can. The old systeem was badly flawed, and most countries testing standards are still a joke…they give the consumer little value.

    No clue about the top speed of the iMiev, you have to assume that was a conscious decision to limit it so low and the tires are merely a extension of that decision. Hard to believe they would limit the speed based on something so trivial…but who knows.

    Side note: Why the heck does the new Prius maxes out over 110 is a good question I think? lol


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    #91 VoltFail

    Tell all your friends to buy a 430 HP Camaro SS while they can.
    GM needs the money to keep going.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (1:48 pm)

    Volt estimated Cd: 27 drag coaff :

    http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/alternative/112_0905_2010_honda_insight_vs_2010_toyota_prius_comparison_test/photo_21.html

    Some times i really respect Toyota.

    Now they are trying to push a yaris bases hybrid and the new Prius goes to 96 mpg at some test conditions. Always strive for excellence. A 17 K volt needs to be out by 2010.

    I hope new GM also will do the same. I am sure there will be a volt competitor soon based on proven Prius.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (1:55 pm)

    troll hungry feed me. so how many of you can really afford a 32,000 electric car that won’t make you go bankrupt? This may be a dumb question being that I’m sure half of you are in debt.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (2:03 pm)

    nasaman 47 “Therefore, I hereby respectfully request and enthusiastically urge General Motors to make Dr. Lyle Dennis an honorary recipient of one the first fully-equipped Chevrolet Volt production automobiles at absolutely no cost to him. (This post is made without his knowledge or approval.)”

    That’s a very thoughtful and nice thought. But the idea of a third party asking GM to take one on the chin because Lyle decided to do the right thing still seems a little weird to me. Tell you what, there are 50,000 on the wait list and many more at the site. If just the wait list folks think that their life has been enriched by just a bucks worth from Lyle’s efforts, then everyone should send in a buck for Lyle’s Volt – he would be able to get the Volt and all the options he wants!


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (2:19 pm)

    #105

    You’ve spelled your screen name incorrectly. Omit the first four letters.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (2:33 pm)

    A supercomputer to accelerate the production of a Volt?
    There is something called “real world testing”, because nowhere in any supercomputer is a line of software code which says:
    “Then, a miracle occurs”.
    New battery breakthroughs and synergistic software approaches coming along every several months, and, immediately integrating these into the potential formulations of Gen 2 and Gen 3, compared to historical design time lines, have the Voltec technologies coming along at a maximum prudent speed.
    Solar panels ** certainly ** are coming waaaaaay down in price.
    As I understand it, there is a local Austin Company, Heliovolt, which is getting the cost down to close to grid power.
    But about half the cost of a solar system is related to non-panel parts and labor.
    The small 150 watt array I installed on my old 92 Brave (to re-purpose and convert it into an inexpensive office for light computing at lunch between seminars I teach), does a great number of very small tasks. However, half the cost was related to all the other parts, inverters, mounting hardware, wiring, etc, in putting the panels in.
    Keep in mind that to use solar, the best “battery” is the
    *****
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    to run the meter backwards, and then, to get the power back for your Volt at a lower off-peak rate which may be equal to or possibly even less than the rate you input your solar power into the grid.
    (In Germany, solar power is purchased by the utility at a far higher amount per kilowatt than the power the solar system owner has taken from the grid. This is why Germany leads the world in solar power installations, I am told by Austin Energy, our publicly-owned electric utility.)
    Dan Petit Austin TX


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (2:39 pm)

    Lyle, do we get a pole on which vehicle (Volt or Ampere) that we prefer the looks of? Still waiting on more pics?


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (2:49 pm)

    Zach #110, Pole w/ pics. That brings up some interesting mental images.

    Dan Petit – solar prices are plunging and a few companies are offering to consolidate all your rebates and finance you with nothing down and payments of a few bucks less than your current electric bill – forever…rates never go up with inflation! And you recover the costs(?) by higher value of the house when you sell and move.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (2:51 pm)

    With a typical driving pattern
    ______________________________

    Have you been collecting data to actually support that “typical” claim?

    SMTD


  113. [...] according to plan, the first salable Volts are scheduled for assembly in November of 2010.[Source: GM-Volt]Filed under: EV/Plug-in, Chevrolet, GM, Green DailyFirst Chevy Volt Integration Vehicle to be [...]


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (3:32 pm)

    #47, I strongly agree. Then give him a Converj when they come out!

    I’m sure Lyle will try to buy the cars anyway, to support EVs, but they can’t let him! He can donate them or something and buy another, but he had better get a free one!

    Also…the government needs to buy a ton of Volts, or maybe if they are cautious they can wait for Volt Gen IIs. I wonder if they would make good police cars (acceleration ability, etc.)? I can’t stand all this bailout nonsense, so how about the gov’t does something useful for a change and pledges to convert as much of their fleets as possible to EREVs and EVs. So many depts could use EREV sedans and (to be fair to all US companies… which means not Chrysler) Ford’s EV van. They could easily have a few thousand in a couple years, just by replacing old vehicles. This is legit business, not another stupid stimulus. And then GM can use the money to pay off its loans :)


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (4:08 pm)

    November 2010 before the first saleable Volt goes to production???? Are you serious??? What a joke!!! I thought the idea was to be the first to get this type of vehicle out to the public, but I guess not. Chevy will likely be bringing up the rear because I can guarentee that some other car companies will have one sold and on the road sooner. I thought the Volt and GM were making waves but I now question that ideal.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (4:22 pm)

    @John 117

    “2009 New York Preview: EV Innovations to unveil Wave and Inizio electric-cars”
    EV Innovations = Hybrid Technologies
    http://www.egmcartech.com/2009/03/25/2009-new-york-preview-ev-innovations-to-unveil-wave-and-inizio-electric-cars/

    The Inzio is no new news but the Wave is…
    “EV Innovations says that it is accepting deposits for both vehicles and hopes to start deliveries sometime in 2010. The price tag for the Wave will start at $34,900 while the Inizio will start at $139,000.”


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (4:27 pm)

    #47 – Agree

    GM should let Lyle test a VOLT this year and present him with one of the first production cars in November 2010. While #1 would be ideal, the first car off the assembly line is very special and may need to be reserved for public display.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (4:41 pm)

    Hey, June 1st is my birthday. Maybe if I blow out all my candles on my cake, I may get one.

    Why do so many people question if people will spend $32k on a Volt? 5 years ago, people were plopping down $5k for a plasma TV that I just bought for $400. Early adopters always pay more, but it is worth it to those people. Too many haters out in cyberland. If you don’t like the Volt, don’t buy it.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (4:50 pm)

    If you don’t like the Volt, don’t buy it.
    _______________________

    Buy what then?

    GM isn’t planning to offer other choices. If you want something other than a large truck, the only system available will be BAS, which is just a mild assist hybrid type.

    That’s the problem.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (4:57 pm)

    Lyle is not a journalist, he’s an advocate. He has no conflict of interest, because he is clearly acting as someone who is in favor of this car, and is not pretending to be objective, any more than the rest of us are. His audience is us, the Volt community, and we know Lyle is just as excited about this car as we are.

    In other words, if General Motors decides that giving Dr. Lyle Dennis a free Chevrolet Volt is in their marketing interest, they will. If not, they won’t. I suspect that they won’t be too much guided by any ruckus we raise.

    Finally, Lyle — if you get a Volt, call me! We’re Rockland neighbors! I’ll ride shotgun!


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (5:25 pm)

    This may sound like another VOLT bashing but I am very excited about the prospect that volt could bring to the market place.

    I would buy one if available today. I just have a gut feeling that GM and other Auto makers will hang a carrot out and keep saying, more testing, or it’s the batteries or there is no interest……..

    If you had a multi billion dollar industry wouldn’t you try everything in your power (both legal and perhaps not) to stop something that might harm your industry. It would be a smart business move.

    So, how about giving GM a billion dollars to not bring VOLT to market. Make it look like your going to but then pull it.

    Sorry but I just don’t trust them after what they did to the EV1.

    I’ll be very happy to eat my words if I am wrong but I am only seeing and hearing foot dragging.

    It is a matter of trust. Why 2010? Why not 2012 or 2009. What is it that will really take that long.

    EV’s in one form or another have been built for over 120 or so years. Yes, the battery…………
    come on I get 60 miles per charge on my EV that a guy slapped together 20 years ago. The only problem I have ever had with it is I had to replace the transmission.

    I am just grouchy that I can’t buy one now.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (5:31 pm)

    Anyone here if GM is planning on testing the car in the mountain states? It would be great to show case this car in CO where there are a lot of Prius’. I am curious if it will be able to hold up to the up and down of the foothills and cold temps in the mountains.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (5:58 pm)

    GM has been hyping the Volt for so long that no one is listening anymore. By November 2010, GM will be holding its last garage sale.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (6:55 pm)

    GM has been hyping the Volt for so long that no one is listening anymore.
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    Fatigue from all the attention so far in advance certainly is a risk.

    Some will indeed lose interest during the long wait. Others will build expectations so high, it could easily lead to disappointment.

    Between now and country-wide availability (Apr 09 to Nov 11) is 20 months. In that time, another 300,000 to 350,000 hybrids will be sold here… hopefully more. Some will even offer a plug-in option. That’s going to put a lot of pressure on keeping the Volt hype from getting out of control… especially considering the loan/bailout situation.

    That will necessitate enthusiasts doing more than blog. Will they?


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (6:58 pm)

    Let’s all hope GM still exists in June.

    I’m glad to see we actually have a solid date released… I hope it is executed as well as it’s been advertised… for GM’s sake and for the sake of the US.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (7:02 pm)

    At first, I was a little puzzled that this note went out saying they were starting production,,,,,for one vehicle, then I thought about it.

    This is a good way to present that GM wants to go about building the vehicle the right way and work out all the kinks before mass production. It also creates a level of anticipation for the vehicle. I look forward to seeing the Volt in the showroom and on the road.

    Go GM.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (7:09 pm)

    Yes, the Prius is a Prius of Crap.
    Thank goodness we have another option. AMERICAN.
    As for you Toyota buyers, please dont cry when in your in the soup line. Hypocrites!!!


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (7:45 pm)

    GM- It is definitely time for Lyle to drive a Volt!

    A different post indicated that there is ~50,000 of us on this website. What if that’s true? Doesn’t that mean anything to you folks at GM? It would seem like it would since we are all already chipping in to keep your company alive. The Volt is needed technology and at a perfect time. You really have something special here, we truly hope that you don’t screw it up. Please let us learn more about it though Lyle Driving one of them!

    Lyle- Thanks so much for keeping us all informed on the GM developments. However darn you for making so many of us so envious of your experience in that Tesla. Tesla knows.

    Tesla- Wow. What a car. The only thing lacking is on board regeneration.

    Thanks again for all that you are doing Lyle. Truly excellent website.

    :)


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (7:59 pm)

    I would just love to see a car that can be flexable in the way it adapts to the power source. If there can be a control unit on the power source then they could be switched out without switching the car out. that way people don’t have to throw out the car with the power supplies. it may not be the perfect performence car, but damn the idea would appeal. I thought at one point the volt was going to do this, or did i just misread something on the way.
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    Mar 25th, 2009 (8:27 pm)

    I agree with “Doof”, would be nice if it had been designed to swap out the gas engine/batteries as technology advances maybe for a nuclear reactor. after all it’ll be about 50 years before I’d get it paid for…
    Anyway….
    Can I have one of the “test cars”? Please?


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (8:32 pm)

    $40,000 is a ridiculous price. Only an idiot would buy it. It will never sell in sufficient quantities to pay back the taxpayer subsidy needed to keep Management and the UAW in the style they’ve become accustomed to. I used to be a supporter, but now I think I’ll buy a Corvette — the only really good value for $40,000 GM makes.


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (8:40 pm)

    @Doof 131

    “I would just love to see a car that can be flexable in the way it adapts to the power source. If there can be a control unit on the power source then they could be switched out without switching the car out. ”

    They, GM, has something like that. They call it “The Skateboard”. It’s a platform where you can drop any shell onto the Skateboard and the Skateboard right now id designed as a Hydrogen Fool Cell. It was at one point supposed to be able to be anything else. Where it is now??? Who the he|| knows now?


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    Mar 25th, 2009 (9:58 pm)

    It’s is great to hear the Volt is taking shape and will be on the roadways soon.

    Being more of a sports car kinda of person. Does GM have plans to build something like the Telsa roadster? Maybe start with a Porsche mid engine chasis instead of a lotus. ;)


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    Mar 26th, 2009 (12:12 am)

    Doof,

    While I don’t think you’re going to be able to retrofit new power sources into your Volt, I think the series electric idea was a smart move toward that idea engineeringwise. GM is building an experience base with an electric drive train. Whatever ultimately provides the electricity, gas, diesel, NatGas, hydrogen fuel cell, batteries, supercapacitors, at least the electric motor and drive train parts are fully developed.


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    Mar 26th, 2009 (12:22 am)

    I am seeing the Tesla on a near weekly basis now parked along PCH in Laguna and Newport and the cars always have people standing around taking pictures. My son now has a poster of a Tesla in his room!


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    Mar 26th, 2009 (12:36 am)

    When I think of GM, I think of a big bloated bureaucracy. RoboCop and Beverly Hills Cop both made Detroit appear dirty, seedy, and corrupt. I just don’t want anything to do with GM or Detroit. I know it sounds corny, but when I think of Toyota and Honda hybrids, I think of windfarms and clean air.


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    Mar 26th, 2009 (12:53 am)

    I worked two jobs to buy a new black Pontiac Firebird. I was a senior in high school in 1990 and one day in auto shop I was waxing the paint when the paint starting coming off on the rag! After several weeks of frustrating phone calls to GM, the dealer agreed to repaint the car after telling me some executive at GM saved the company a few dollars by switching to a cheap primer. The dealer did a lousy job with the paint and I sold the car. Today I work two jobs in hopes of owning a new Tesla. Our family had generations of happy GM owners and I broke with tradition. Good luck with your Volt but as far as I am concerned, I would buy that cheap car from India before I would ever buy anything again from GM.


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    Mar 26th, 2009 (1:48 am)

    I wonder if there will be a volt with 2 batteries so that the distance between charges can be 80 miles as opposed to 40. Pros and Cons other than weight…but please discuss the cost..


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    Mar 26th, 2009 (5:03 am)

    I have registered with the GM-Volt waiting list ( I am under 2,500)

    I want to purchase a Volt but given the screwed up Financial system and the high $40K price, I doubt I will be able to purchase one.

    This should be of EXTREME concern with GM–

    ***If GM could develop a Layaway Plan (like Henry Ford designed when selling the Model T) then I could make payments towards the down payment IMMEDIATELY. This way I would know that I could (hopefully) meet my dream of owning a Volt and assuring GM of a committed Volt buyer.

    (I hope GM decision makers are reading this)


  142. [...] the vehicle is readied for production in late 2010.  For the full story, head on over to the GM-Volt official [...]


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    Mar 26th, 2009 (7:05 am)

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    Mar 26th, 2009 (7:56 am)

    quick note,….. i ma huge fan of GM and big supporter of theVolt, but it might be a good idea to remove competitors ads from the website. Especially places like Honda & Toyota.

    Everytime I’m up here, their seems to be an ad for some “Certified Toyota”


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    Mar 26th, 2009 (8:00 am)

    In post #16, Tim Says:
    “I wonder if you can make a business model of retrofitting older vehicles into E-REVs using Raser tech?”

    I find it very, very sad, that motors and batteries are completely unavailable to DIYers who can help push the technology. Raser Tech’s web site says their “pancake” motors (hub motors or wheel motors) are “available for license.” Translated, that means, “If you will contract with us to buy 10 million bucks worth, we’ll sell you the motors.”

    There are several companies making this type of motor, but not one of them will sell you just 2 or 4 of them.

    Same with batteries.

    As a long-time mechanic and car hobbyist, I honestly believe I could convert my ’05 Impala, and have the fuel economy pushing 100 mpg as a serial hybrid. But even if it were possible to get the motors, the price would be far out of my reach. The industry is effectively shutting out the DIY groups that could actually help accelerate production-ready development.


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    Mar 26th, 2009 (7:49 pm)

    “my goal is by Forth of July to be out driving several of them.”

    Wow, that would be cool if I saw a Volt driving down the road! I’d be trying to pull the guy over so I can get a better look at the car. Maybe I’ll get lucky and see one on the road one day!


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    Mar 27th, 2009 (10:56 am)

    I will be quite ready to take the 6087th production Volt.

    I want serial number xxxxxxx-xxx-xxxxxx-xxx-6087. (my place in line on the GM-Volt waiting list.)


  148. [...] get to drive one until at least 2010, so don’t go looking for your favorite Gatsby cap just yet.Read – Announcement (with glaring mistake)Read – Corrections from GM exec Rob PetersonFiled under: [...]


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    Mar 27th, 2009 (4:46 pm)

    Need to do FASTER, get to market ASAP – at least a Q


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    Mar 30th, 2009 (9:45 pm)

    looks like tinted windows will look nice with that black by the doors


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    Apr 8th, 2009 (4:13 pm)

    I’m too pissed off at Government Motors to even want this heap anymore. I will never buy a GM (Government Motors) vehicle again. Let me get this straight. These guys take billions and are still facing bankruptcy? In my opinion they should GIVE every American one of these damn things! Now they promise to make payments if you lose your job? With what? More gubment cheese? With Oboinga at the helm, I may buy Chrysler or Ford but if Chrysler doesn’t get their poop in a group, they can forget me or my family. Screw GM, Screw Oboinga, and Screw this vehicle that is a sad departure from it’s once awesome prototype. GM and the unions can take this car and shove it up their ass.


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    May 26th, 2009 (9:26 am)

    I love the fact they are using the generator only for electricity and not to directly power the vehicle. Seems to me doing it that way means the generator at some point can be modified for many markets and adapted to different fuels.
    Way to go.