Comments on: Now That Buick is JD Power Number One Brand in Quality, is it Time for an Electric Buick Electra? http://gm-volt.com/2009/03/22/now-that-buick-is-jd-power-number-one-brand-in-quality-is-it-time-for-an-electric-buick-electra/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:19:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: MetrologyFirst http://gm-volt.com/2009/03/22/now-that-buick-is-jd-power-number-one-brand-in-quality-is-it-time-for-an-electric-buick-electra/#comment-103024 MetrologyFirst Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:01:07 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1574#comment-103024 Gary, Precisely! JD Power has one set of protcol, CR has another. They give divergent results. Neither mean squat when everybody is doing good and we are reduced to splitting hairs. This "quality equality" condition is exactly when different protocols/sampling populations can produce divergent results. If anything, the combination of JD's and CR's data SHOWS that the domestics are right there in quality with the imports; there is no systematic difference. Just driver differences, at this point. The import buyers just keep drinking the CR koolaid and want to use resale value as the measure of quality now. That's no more than an import owner selling to a koolaid-drinking import buyer. It means nothing. The buyer of the newer, mildly used domestic car, whose "resale value" is depressed by quality misperceptions, is the real winner. Gary,

Precisely!

JD Power has one set of protcol, CR has another. They give divergent results.

Neither mean squat when everybody is doing good and we are reduced to splitting hairs. This “quality equality” condition is exactly when different protocols/sampling populations can produce divergent results. If anything, the combination of JD’s and CR’s data SHOWS that the domestics are right there in quality with the imports; there is no systematic difference. Just driver differences, at this point.

The import buyers just keep drinking the CR koolaid and want to use resale value as the measure of quality now. That’s no more than an import owner selling to a koolaid-drinking import buyer. It means nothing.

The buyer of the newer, mildly used domestic car, whose “resale value” is depressed by quality misperceptions, is the real winner.

]]> By: Gary http://gm-volt.com/2009/03/22/now-that-buick-is-jd-power-number-one-brand-in-quality-is-it-time-for-an-electric-buick-electra/#comment-102549 Gary Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:14:14 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1574#comment-102549 Interesting discussion about JD Powers having Buick at the top as the latest Consumer Repors car issue has the big 3 + Suzuki in the bottom 4 positions for reliability. I guess it all depends on who you question/poll/survey as to what answers you get. Interesting discussion about JD Powers having Buick at the top as the latest Consumer Repors car issue has the big 3 + Suzuki in the bottom 4 positions for reliability.

I guess it all depends on who you question/poll/survey as to what answers you get.

]]> By: imflyn http://gm-volt.com/2009/03/22/now-that-buick-is-jd-power-number-one-brand-in-quality-is-it-time-for-an-electric-buick-electra/#comment-102417 imflyn Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:51:49 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1574#comment-102417 #5 MarkinWI Yes! You are correct. Unless there is a real substantial difference in the size, performance, or options, the rebadging of the same vehicle needs to stop. #5
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Yes! You are correct. Unless there is a real substantial difference in the size, performance, or options, the rebadging of the same vehicle needs to stop.

]]> By: Jerome http://gm-volt.com/2009/03/22/now-that-buick-is-jd-power-number-one-brand-in-quality-is-it-time-for-an-electric-buick-electra/#comment-102346 Jerome Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:37:15 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1574#comment-102346 #3, I'm with you all the way on buy American, especially in this economic envronment. When I'm out to buy something I do heavy research to see if I can buy an item made in the USA....needed a drill/driver and found a Makita (at least it's assembled in the US) at a great close-out price and it is better quality than most of the imports (particularly the cheap ones)....even Craftsman power tools arent made in the USA any longer. Sorry to stray from the Volt/GM/EV's but #3 inspired me to go on this tangent. #3,

I’m with you all the way on buy American, especially in this economic envronment. When I’m out to buy something I do heavy research to see if I can buy an item made in the USA….needed a drill/driver and found a Makita (at least it’s assembled in the US) at a great close-out price and it is better quality than most of the imports (particularly the cheap ones)….even Craftsman power tools arent made in the USA any longer.

Sorry to stray from the Volt/GM/EV’s but #3 inspired me to go on this tangent.

]]> By: StevePA http://gm-volt.com/2009/03/22/now-that-buick-is-jd-power-number-one-brand-in-quality-is-it-time-for-an-electric-buick-electra/#comment-102007 StevePA Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:41:43 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1574#comment-102007 #53 DonC and #65 Eco ____________________ Perhaps the JD Power long-term use report should not be the final word that Buick (and Jaguar) quality has arrived. But certainly it is quite a development in the context of the conventional wisdom. Harkens back to the 70's and early 80s when conventional wisdom doubted the Japanese had turned things around from producing woeful automobiles to somewhat more reliable machines. Just another phase, brought about by competition and focus. #53 DonC and #65 Eco
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Perhaps the JD Power long-term use report should not be the final word that Buick (and Jaguar) quality has arrived. But certainly it is quite a development in the context of the conventional wisdom.

Harkens back to the 70′s and early 80s when conventional wisdom doubted the Japanese had turned things around from producing woeful automobiles to somewhat more reliable machines.

Just another phase, brought about by competition and focus.

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