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Bright Expectations for the Volt
I offer the following guest post from Michael Brylawski, Vice President of Corporate Strategy of Bright Automotive in response to our recent post here:
Following a recent posting about Bright Automotive, the GM Volt site has been some great discussion about our company and our vehicle. Speaking as the company’s Vice President of Corporate Strategy, I can tell you that we see a bright future for GM’s electrification efforts, including the Volt and Voltec powertrain, and the mutually beneficial efforts of the more than 50 electrified platforms in development across the globe. Our vehicle differentiation and comments are sometimes “reported” as criticism for creating interest, rather accurately representing our full support of the GM Volt program.
The electrification of the U.S. vehicle fleet is going to require “all hands on deck” from every established automaker, as well as a host of new, innovative enterprises like Bright Automotive. Ultimately, the U.S. is going to need tens of millions of new, electric-drive vehicles coming online in the next decade if we are to seriously address our oil and carbon problems, and revitalize American industry. We do not see electric-drive vehicles as a “niche” market where automakers will battle each other over slices of a small pie; on the contrary, the U.S. market need is ultimately for over two-hundred million new, efficient, electric-drive vehicles.
The future automotive market will be more like an ecosystem with a host of players, including companies like GM and its Voltec powertrain, and newer enterprises like Bright Automotive and its core set of technologies that will complement – not necessarily compete with – each other. And, in fact, our Bright Works engineering services unit is working with other automakers to help them with critical electric drive technologies such as control systems, motors, and battery-pack integration.
What we share in common with forward-looking automakers is the vision of the electrification of the automobile; a focus on the paramount importance of efficiency; and ultimately a renewed, domestic automotive industry that is globally competitive using American know-how and talent to solve some pressing global problems. As well, the success of the Volt, of Bright Automotive, and countless other electrification efforts will help create “critical mass” for a new electrification infrastructure, ranging from the components needed to make electric vehicles affordable to the charge stations, and communications technologies to make owning an electrified-vehicle as convenient as an internal combustion one.
Michael Brylawski
Vice President of Corporate Strategy
Bright Automotive, Inc.
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March 21st, 2009 at 3:55 pm
This is precisely the cohesiveness which green electric motoring requires. Cohesiveness comes from the spirit of cooperation by all OEM’s from a technological perspective, letting us all participate by coming to understand technologically the ways the vehicles are being designed.
I do not think that OEM’s need be concerned about confidentiality as much as has been in the past. The finest ways to get the highly dedicated audience to believe in your technologies is, well, to just openly tell us about them in specific technical terms, chassis views, and, yes, start out by telling us what your challenges are.
With GM, it was “We have to have a (technologically-feasible) battery” [first]. All down through the many last months, the scientific breakthroughs and advancements have had all of us (at this site), considering the various aspects of those breakthroughs, and, you can never have any advertising come anywhere close to letting anyone who cares, to participate in each new benchmark of your product line development.
For me, understanding the Voltec systems are exciting because I expect to be able to waveform the behavior of the many new hundreds of Parameter ID’s (or datastreams) in the Primary and Secondary Subprocessors some day. GM also “lets us in” the Computers far better than any other OEM, which will make learning and teaching Voltec to the top 10 percent of technicians an extremely exciting thing for me to do.
Dan Petit Austin TX.
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March 21st, 2009 at 4:20 pm
I just hope people try and support US auto makers more in this generation and all future generations.
http://www.uwsa.com/issues/trade/japanyes.html
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March 21st, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Working weekends I see Lyle.
I read this thread over a couple times, and I’m not really sure why he wrote to you. Seems like a lot of words that don’t say a whole heck of a lot…but it does sound a lot like something a guy with the title of, “Vice President of Corporate Strategy”
I guess he is trying to say, ‘Our CEO probably shouldn’t be disparging other guy’s stuff, especially when you guys have all the eco-green brownie points at the moment, but then again maybe you didn’t ‘hear’ us right…and although it would be nice for the guy who said those things to come out and take it back officially, my job is basically to keep things running smooth….so howDee Volt guys, we are all really part of the same team, hugs all around’
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March 21st, 2009 at 5:36 pm
There is something to be said about positive news stories… not all negativity.
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March 21st, 2009 at 5:43 pm
I hope EV tech startups becomes like other tech startups up here in Silicon Valley. A bunch of ‘em spring up, make great innovations, and either get bought out by big companies with high production capacity or find a market of their own and grow. I think it is unwise for small companies making EVs to view themselves as competitors to large companies or vice-versa. Instead, they should try to sell/license their tech and work together, at least at first.
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March 21st, 2009 at 6:09 pm
To Zach @2:
Yes, the USA must be the leader in this field. We cannot let this opportunity slip away. I believe the Chevy Volt technology will completely change the automotive world.
I admire startups like Bright and I wish them well. I hope they have an Ace up their sleeve though or they may get left in the dust.
This is why I am betting GM will lead the whole world in all this. They have something like 600 full time engineers, design staff, etc. working on the Chevy Volt, its battery, and all the various sub-systems. They occupy a building the size of a football field. Small startups simply cannot match this degree of commitment.
By the way, the link you mention great. I highly recommend this to anyone on this site if you haven’t read it already. It is a lengthy read but well worth the effort.
http://www.uwsa.com/issues/trade/japanyes.html
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March 21st, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Statik,
ROTFLMAO! You hit the nail on the head.
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March 21st, 2009 at 7:13 pm
During the congressional hearings on the low cost loans for fuel efficient vehicles, the Bright Automotive CEO testified last fall that it was not competing with GM or the Volt because Bright was focused on light commercial vehicles. Funny Mr. Brylawski just didn’t say that here. Perhaps Bright has changed it focus? (I guess we’ll see in 30 days).
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March 21st, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Mr. Vice President of Corporate “Strategy”? And what was the strategy in this move? Looking for a new job may be?
Statik could have also said: sometimes it is just better to keep your mouth shut and lead by example.
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March 21st, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Statik
Well said. But the PR clown isi still trying to defend his boss, the mass killer, one Amory Lovins.
I expect that Carcus1 will continue in his belief that the mass killer is was an eleven year old but Amory was born in November 1947, making him quite old enough to have persuaded Mao Tsetung to order the building “small is beautiful” backyard blast furnaces in the the old pervert’s Great Leap Forward to no where.
Just as he ripped off millions in the PNGV government car design by politically chosen committee, selling the same old baloney of using billion dollar bomber materials for unrecyclable automotive body parts, to save a few pounds.
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March 21st, 2009 at 8:32 pm
#7 Jason M. Hendler Says:
Statik,
ROTFLMAO! You hit the nail on the head.
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#9 frankyB Says:
Statik could have also said: sometimes it is just better to keep your mouth shut and lead by example.
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That was the edited version, lol. I had a whole big bag of whoopings all ready to go on the topic of Bright Automotive, but I seem to be in some kind of ‘mood’ today so I decided to tone it down.
If I am out pounding the drum for GM and the Volt (which I admittedly rarely do) over Bright, you know I have some strong feelings pent up about random EV startups cluttering the landscape…with their press releases, fantasy dream cars and their disparaging comments knocking someone else’s project down when their own position/existence is murky at best.
Nutshell: If you want to ’smooth the waters,’ then probably best to have Mr. Water’s himself do the backpeddling/quasi-apologizing/explaining.. This ‘VP’ didn’t just happen to see the article here, and then decide to autonomously write in that long, meandering obtuse statement. Mr. Waters either directed him here, or that statement went accross his desk.
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March 21st, 2009 at 8:35 pm
..that Statik guy really has a burr under his saddle. He should take a vicodin or something.
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March 21st, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Greencarcongress has an interesting article in which they quote Kruse, Farah and Gray and it is a bit disappointing. First of all, when given a chance to say that GM will not repeat the EV1 lease fiasco, they said they were still considering both business models. Seriously, if GM tries to lease the Volt, the response would be vociferously negative. Second, after Patil said that the Volt’s battery pack would cost less than $1,000 of available kWh, or less than $8,000 for the Volts battery, now Laukner says that “many hundreds of dollars less” than the US$1,000 per kWh cited in a recent Carnegie Mellon study without mentioning ‘available’, and that “new concepts” promise to, possibly, move the cost to as low as $US 250 per kWh.
Which is completely different. One, Patil’s, statement means a battery pack that is around $500 per kWh of total storage. The second is $1000 per kWh of storage. The difference is the viability of a growing PHEV vehicle or a fringe vehicle that is too expensive to sell in large numbers. This is a failure to communicate on a level only reached by Lutz at his worst. Or it is the admission by GM that their battery pack is not nearly cheap enough to field an ER-EV that will be able to sell in sufficient numbers to make a difference.
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2009/03/gm-provides-glimpse-of-battery-strategy-and-approach-for-the-future-with-briefing-on-gen-1-volt-pack.html#more
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March 21st, 2009 at 9:44 pm
We appreciate what Michael Brylawski has to say about the Volt and Bright Automotive. Companies working together can solve many of the problems that may plague some who do not have the technical expertise GM brings to the market. We wish him and his company much luck and we hope Bright Automotive has a good future, as well as GM Volt and Voltec system. Thank you sir for your post.
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March 21st, 2009 at 9:59 pm
I submitted my comment right after reading what Michael Brylawski had written. After reading everyone’s comments, I am left asking: “Am I that far off base in what I said?” Still cooperation to achieve our electric car future is good. It is all good.
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March 21st, 2009 at 10:00 pm
#14 N Riley said:
We appreciate what Michael Brylawski has to say about the Volt and Bright Automotive. Companies working together can solve many of the problems that may plague some who do not have the technical expertise GM brings to the market. We wish him and his company much luck and we hope Bright Automotive has a good future, as well as GM Volt and Voltec system. Thank you sir for your post.
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/high road…points to you
You get my vote as the Vice President of Corporate Strategy here at GM-Volt.com. (=
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March 21st, 2009 at 10:12 pm
“the U.S. market need is ultimately for over two-hundred million new, efficient, electric-drive vehicles.”
Over 200,000,000 vehicles?!
GM can barely get out 10,000 the first year, and “maybe 60,000″ the next year.
Sadly, we’ve got a mighty long way to go.
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March 21st, 2009 at 10:17 pm
#15 N Riley said:
I submitted my comment right after reading what Michael Brylawski had written. After reading everyone’s comments, I am left asking: “Am I that far off base in what I said?” Still cooperation to achieve our electric car future is good. It is all good.
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No, your right, cooperation is good. Promoting the technology is good. Endorsing other similar products, even if it is not completely congruent with your version of the ‘optimal application’ is admirable.
(I think is just a little backlash from origin of which this response was penned, and by whom it was penned…the sentiment presented here itself is actually pretty flawless).
Sidenote about EVs and which is ‘best’: I don’t back any one horse at this stage (or disqualify any of them either) based on any ‘optimal criteria’ of range, performance, style, where it is made, or price (relatively speaking)…not GM, not Toyota, not Chrylser, Mitsu or Ford…I’m open to whoever gets it to me first, in almost any form. Right now, all we have is promises…and from a lot of players
Sure I have a preference, we all do…but being ‘choosey’ at this point to me takes a backseat to embracing anyone who actually has the stones to put their shovel in the ground with the intent of mass producing a electric car…and does it.
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March 21st, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Looks like Toyota took notice of the Cadillac Converj…
http://dvice.com/archives/2009/03/toyota_to_build.php
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March 21st, 2009 at 10:57 pm
#18 statik
I am not going to quarrel about which car is “best” either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIDpCT1tOqE
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March 21st, 2009 at 11:50 pm
It’s good to hear some reality concerning EV numbers, especially after Obama’s brainless goal of 1 million EVs over the next decade or so. We do need many tens of millions to make any dent in crude avoidance. That points to lower battery costs and, ultimately, as we saw with the latest MIT advances, battery-only EVs that can eliminate the added cost and complexity of range extender motors, which only exist at the moment due to the severe deficiencies of batteries.
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March 22nd, 2009 at 2:24 am
We all know that under current conditions, the economics of PHEVs are just not there. But if battery costs can be cut in half, and gasoline prices triple, PHEVs will be poised to dominate the automotive market.
It seems very questionable to me that Bright Automotive will be a player. Their driving force is Amory Lovins. I have no idea whether he is a mass murderer or not, I could find no documentation for that. He clearly has significant engineering or science training. But he is not an inventor or a research director, he is a grantsman. He founded and runs the think tank Rocky Mountain Institute which sustains itself by collecting grants from donors who like to see papers on a “green” future.
They spun off a so-called engineering and manufacturing company called Bright Automotive.
Bright Automotive plans to unveil a PHEV concept car this spring, with production tentatively planned for 2013. Production seems very unlikely. By the end of 2013, GM will have had 3 full years of Volt production. What is the point of a late me too product from a no-name manufacturer.
Their other offering, per their site, is automotive engineering services for electric cars. Will any of the big 10 global automakers avail themselves of these services? Definitely not GM, they are already 2 years ahead of where Bright claims to be. As far as the other nine, Bright has no customers yet, and may never get any. Certainly the electric car guys at Toyota, Ford, Honda etc have lots of knowledge already in terms of batteries, electric motors, control systems, etc.
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March 22nd, 2009 at 4:59 am
Question: Will there be or is there a “standard” for the electrical connection to charge the batteries so all electrical vehicles will be able to recharge at charge locations?
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March 22nd, 2009 at 5:00 am
definitely the us companies are goanna make a better car than the japanese bastards who copy our tech and use their mothafuckin currency as their advantage
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March 22nd, 2009 at 6:38 am
Well I’ve been thinking lately about EV’s in general, and what they can do that no ICE vehicle can.
The answer is provide power via normal 120 or 240 Volt 10 – 15Amp sockets. Certainly for any work truck / suv I think we have a great selling point here. For me, the ability to run my laptop off mains power while on the road would be advantageous. To have a ready made power point for blackout emergencies at home, even to keep the fridge/freezer running, would be worth heaps to me.
A 15 amp 240 Volt supply is 3.6 kW per hour so well within the Volt’s capabilities. A 10 amp 120 Volt supply is 1.2 kW per hour so even the PHEV Prius would be able to handle that. Not sure if if it could recharge while parked though, John1701a might be able to help with this one?
Anyway IF I was GM I would make a feature of something, no normal car can do, and market the hell out of it. Certainly for V2 onwards.
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March 22nd, 2009 at 7:12 am
Buy a Camaro this year to help support the VOLT for next year.
http://blogs.popularhotrodding.com/6473413/tech/camaro-36l-v6/index.html
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March 22nd, 2009 at 7:53 am
#25 NZDavid Says: Well I’ve been thinking lately about EV’s in general, and what they can do that no ICE vehicle can. The answer is provide power via normal 120 or 240 Volt 10 – 15Amp sockets. Certainly for any work truck / SUV I think we have a great selling point here. For me, the ability to run my laptop off mains power while on the road would be advantageous. To have a ready made power point for blackout emergencies at home, even to keep the fridge/freezer running, would be worth heaps to me.
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Yes, I’ve been talking about this for the last year and a half. And there are other applications as well, like camping, outdoor concerts in remote locations, basically anything where grid power isn’t available, and the draw is less than 15 amps.
Note that you can do this today with a normal gas engine car, if you buy an inverter. For $430 U.S., you can buy a 1500 watt pure digital since power inverter that connects to you 12v car battery.
http://www.invertersrus.com/pwrig150012s.html
Unlike less expensive modified sine inverters, this one will work perfectly with motors, switching power supplies, delicate electronics, etc.
But with the Volt, the battery is 400 volts DC, so there are no commercially available inverters for 400VDC input. Even if there was, 400VDC is an unsafe voltage, so I’m pretty sure GM won’t make any battery terminals available to users.
So to do what you can do today with a normal ICE, GM will have to provide a home power outlet inverter built into the Volt, either as standard equipment, or as an option.
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March 22nd, 2009 at 8:27 am
#19 Gordon Says: Looks like Toyota took notice of the Cadillac Converj…
http://dvice.com/archives/2009/03/toyota_to_build.php
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This is great news! It means hybrids are moving into the mainstream, branching out into different types of cars, and creating a kind of green envy.
This is really important. For the last 15 years, the vehicle of envy was a big SUV. Let’s face it, this was mostly a fashion statement. Minivans carry more people and cargo than SUVs, and most SUV owners don’t drive off-road. But for some reason, most housewives wouldn’t be caught dead in a minivan. So it really was more of a fashion statement. But now that people are connecting the dots between oil money and terrorism, and seeing what volatile oil prices can do to the economy, those big SUVs don’t look so sexy anymore.
But this has left a vacuum. Right now, there is no must-have type of vehicle. Big SUVs are going out of fashion, but nothing else has emerged to replace it. So we kind of have this car fashion void.
My hope is that green cars will fill this void, and people will be green with envy. I think Tesla has done really well affecting the American mindset here, even if they don’t sell that many cars. And if car companies can come out with efficient microvans, MPVs, and sport wagons that look really good, I think that will do a lot to help kill off any remaining SUV fashion fever…
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March 22nd, 2009 at 8:35 am
By the way, CNN has had a lot of videos recently on alternative transportation:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2009/03/18/dcl.rowlands.biodiesel.cnn
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2009/03/19/garbage.fuel.cnn
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2009/03/21/meserve.smart.grid.cnn
Sorry about the commercials, but thats cnn.com
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March 22nd, 2009 at 8:36 am
Dave G
But you have to have the engine running all the time to use such a powerful inverter at present. The Volt would be able to provide power with the ICE off for large periods of time.
But with the Volt, the battery is 400 volts DC, so there are no commercially available inverters for 400VDC input. Even if there was, 400VDC is an unsafe voltage, so I’m pretty sure GM won’t make any battery terminals available to users.
Exactly my point. GM could easily build this option as part of the engine management system, after all they already have to convert the 400 VDC to 400 VAC to run the 150kW drive motor.
And yes, I already use an inverter in my van.
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March 22nd, 2009 at 8:55 am
#30 NZDavid Says: But you have to have the engine running all the time to use such a powerful inverter at present.
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Not really. I’ve hooked up over 1000 watts of tungsten lighting and LCD monitors, and that seems to work for 10-15 minutes of takes before we have to run the van again.
But I understand your point. The Volt would do this automatically, and run much longer before the ICE becomes necessary.
I only hope GM is listening and will provide 15-amp 110v AC power outlets in the Volt, not only for the reasons we’ve already mentioned, but also for marketing – one more reason to call it the Volt!
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March 22nd, 2009 at 10:26 am
There may be a commercially available inverter from UQM Technologies for 400vdc here is the link:
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2008/10/uqm-technologie.html
but I’m sure GM wont like it if you hook it up, more stress on their battery and the warranty. A feature like this would make the Volt a big seller in hurricane prone areas with their power outages.
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But with the Volt, the battery is 400 volts DC, so there are no commercially available inverters for 400VDC input. Even if there was, 400VDC is an unsafe voltage, so I’m pretty sure GM won’t make any battery terminals available to users.
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March 22nd, 2009 at 10:32 am
You are putting a heavy stress on the cars battery, its not really designed for that. If it does not get too cold where you live, consider using a large deep cycle marine battery in place of the regular battery.. it can start your engine and will tolerate the heavy drain much better.. and run the engine so it can take part of the load.
1000 watts is about 100amps pulled out of the battery continuously, the acid starts to boil.
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Not really. I’ve hooked up over 1000 watts of tungsten lighting and LCD monitors, and that seems to work for 10-15 minutes of takes before we have to run the van again.
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March 22nd, 2009 at 11:28 am
I don’t see these as a niche market.
Voltec eliminates this problem.
However, if the price remains too high, it could be a niche market.
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March 22nd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Maybe I shouldn’t feed the troll, but for the record the Great Leap Forward happened in 1958 – 1961, shortly after the Let a Hundred Flowers Bloom -> Anti-Rightist Purge whiplash in which my father-in-law got in trouble. Someone born in 1947 being to blame for it seems quite a puzzlement.
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March 22nd, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Fifty electric platforms globally sounds great, but history of the auto industry predicts a future bloodbath over the people’s chosen EV platform. The best technology rarely wins in the end. There where hundreds of motor car companies in this country at the beginning and now we are down to three (and not the best three, IMO). There will be an ugly shakeout of the EV industry in record time, with only a handful of players left to supply the globe. You can bet on it.
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March 22nd, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Amory Lovin’s spin-off looks like it’s buying some time and hoping to keep the competition relaxed.
I’m betting they have every expectation of bringing a carbon fiber EV (or plug-in EV or both) to the market that will blow everyone out of the water. They will then license that technology to everyone and all will be good. Amory will then sit back and say, “See, I told you so.”
Simple idea – light, safe, aerodynamic and sustainable. The major missing pieces are high-volume carbon fiber manufacturing technology (they are addressing this with FiberForge) and great batteries (coming to a showroom near you in the next decade).
I still think Alan Mulally of Ford is working on a top secret Hypercar killer and is holding his cards close to vest. Come on Alan, don’t let us down.
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March 23rd, 2009 at 6:39 am
Herm @ 32,
Thanks for the link. That’s exactly what I will get my auto electrician to install in my Volt, 240 VAC though. I would happily pay an extra 1,000 to have this as an option.
The first two day power cut and it’s paid for. With a 10Amp feed I could keep the fridge/freezer and hot water operational, (Not at the same time though) and run the lights at night, sweet.
Obviously, it would be way better if GM did it with the associated generator mode to recharge the battery to full with the Volts generator.
/If I stop the food going off will I get a reduction on my household insurance?
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March 23rd, 2009 at 11:06 am
Great discussion! Let me make one follow up post from the “horse’s mouth” to address a few comments:
* As for why I sent Lyle and email, I actually met him at a GM Volt event in 2008 and had a great discussion, and since then have read the site pretty regularly. And no, I didn’t like how the press reported on Bright, as it completely missed the mark on our viewpoint on the Volt. We’re very supportive. So I decided to send Lyle a post.
* As for my job title, I like the comments! I do have a sense of humor about my job. Yes, as Will Ferrell put it it’s all about “strategery.” Actually, my job is very substantive and exciting, there is a lot of very interesting moving pieces to creating a new company, and strategy is all about providing quantitative analysis to guide management decisionmaking.
* The best part about Bright (not covered often in the press) is that it’s full of interesting, accomplished, experienced Industry veterans–people like me with startup experience combined with people who’ve spent collectively hundreds of years at the Big Three and know the (tough) realities of bringing vehicles to production. This is a company that is bringing fresh thinking to the EV space with proven experience.
* As for the vehicle, I think a lot of people will be pleasantly surprised based on comments from this board. It will be a nice complement to the Volt. I’ll let people defer judgment until they see it.
* Last, to the commenter that talked about the scope and scale of the problem–yes! That is what’s behind my message. I don’t see this as a bunch of companies (big and small) fighting over crumbs; I see this as the start of a huge, new, 200M vehicle market where we’re going to need to transform our entire vehicle fleet over the coming decades to reduce (and ultimately eliminate) our dependence on oil, which now stands at 20M barrels a day, 2/3 of which is imported.
It’s going to take a huge, nationwide, effort (my “hands on deck” comment) from a lot of diverse companies, organizations, and individuals–pursuing a host of different technology strategies, business models, and approaches–to finally kick our addiction.
Thus, in that spirit, great debate and dialogue is great, but we’re going to need Volt, Bright, and many others (from T-Boone in heavy trucks, Better Place in its markets, Nissan, Ford, Mitsubishi, Tesla, etc.) to succeed if we’re going to actually make a real-world impact on fuel consumption.
* And yes, for those who don’t like my writing, that’s honestly how I write! Check out my article in the upcoming April issue of Solar Today on my vision for the future of electrification. It emphasizes the same themes.
MB
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March 23rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
#39 Michael Brylawski:
Thanks for replying, it is tough to muck it up with comments section on the internet (mostly my fault), and I can respect that. As for the future of your concept, any eventual production, success for yourself or the company…as I like to say, ‘time will tell.’
I guess you can tell myself personally am a little skeptical about another startup player joining the action out of left field, but I am only all too happy to be proven wrong…especially if that means I am able to buy a electric car from you at some point.
(I must warn you that I probably will continue to kidd you at any random point about your title, lol).
/have a good one
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March 23rd, 2009 at 2:15 pm
#38 NZDavid:
The original “BAS” Silverado “hybrid” features 110v outlets in the bed so that contractors and so forth could run power tools. I’m sure that there was enough power to run a Skilsaw. It was a big selling point at the time. I don’t know if the updated “2 mode” version will do so or not.
#39 Michael Brylawski:
Yeah, and if GM dies, and the Volt never happens, people will be lining up to buy US made electric vehicles like crazy. At least I hope so. I would buy an Aptera or a Bright, or whatever before I would buy a Mitsu or a Nissan.
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