Comments on: Q&A With Lithium Battery Charging Breakthrough Inventor Byoungwoo Kang, and What Does This Mean for Electric Cars? http://gm-volt.com/2009/03/13/qa-with-lithium-battery-charging-breakthrough-inventor-byoungwoo-kang-and-what-does-this-mean-for-electric-cars/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:37:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bob G http://gm-volt.com/2009/03/13/qa-with-lithium-battery-charging-breakthrough-inventor-byoungwoo-kang-and-what-does-this-mean-for-electric-cars/#comment-100845 Bob G Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:42:16 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1567#comment-100845 156 nataraj Says, "Quick charge the MAIN reason why we are even talking about a EV with range extension. If you can get quick recharges in all gas stations, why would we need range extension at all? All we would need is a 200 mile or so range of EV and a quick stop for recharging on our long trips." I agree that quick charge capability would make it practical to have charging stations for long trips, and that would ease range anxiety for BEV owners. But quick charge could also be used as the EV equivalent of "siphoning" a few gallons. So if I'm stranded along the side of the road with a dead battery in my BEV, a good Samaritan in another BEV (or EREV) could stop and give me a "jump" (i.e., just enough energy from his/her battery to get me to the next charging station). 156 nataraj Says, “Quick charge the MAIN reason why we are even talking about a EV with range extension. If you can get quick recharges in all gas stations, why would we need range extension at all? All we would need is a 200 mile or so range of EV and a quick stop for recharging on our long trips.”

I agree that quick charge capability would make it practical to have charging stations for long trips, and that would ease range anxiety for BEV owners. But quick charge could also be used as the EV equivalent of “siphoning” a few gallons. So if I’m stranded along the side of the road with a dead battery in my BEV, a good Samaritan in another BEV (or EREV) could stop and give me a “jump” (i.e., just enough energy from his/her battery to get me to the next charging station).

]]> By: waltinseattle http://gm-volt.com/2009/03/13/qa-with-lithium-battery-charging-breakthrough-inventor-byoungwoo-kang-and-what-does-this-mean-for-electric-cars/#comment-100818 waltinseattle Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:29:14 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1567#comment-100818 P.S. We have venture capital working on the infrastructure, and a cheap alternative to owning the batteries- its a system like milk in glass bottles- you buy the electricity and you "rent" the bottle/battery . So this seems to be taking care of itself without all us "engineer types worring about financial issues too overly much. Back to your slide rules and nascar training video games bro! P.S.

We have venture capital working on the infrastructure, and a cheap alternative to owning the batteries- its a system like milk in glass bottles- you buy the electricity and you “rent” the bottle/battery . So this seems to be taking care of itself without all us “engineer types worring about financial issues too overly much. Back to your slide rules and nascar training video games bro!

]]> By: waltinseattle http://gm-volt.com/2009/03/13/qa-with-lithium-battery-charging-breakthrough-inventor-byoungwoo-kang-and-what-does-this-mean-for-electric-cars/#comment-100817 waltinseattle Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:25:23 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1567#comment-100817 I see, As Usual, a bunch of testosterone drooling going on here- "nascarev" indeed. What I see that I do appreciate? a battery that can recharge while I sip the morning latte, or while I buy the weekly groceries. I don't really need a shorter pitstop on transcontinental road trips (but range would be a plus there) I am personally against "cars" be sure. Too fast, too expensive, too regulated. Give me a bike for 2 or 3 plus luggage, no onerous regs, no permits, no operator licences, no insurance, etcetcetc. All it takes is re-imagining what we passed up (refer back to "testosterone comment). Cost? anybody note the recent spreads (WSJ) about Lithium mining, whos the "saudi Arabia (not Red China), whats there political situation etc?? Li is currently cheap, but wait till the market takes off. Can anybody say "ground floor oportunity knocks?" , well, consider the (mine location!) I see, As Usual, a bunch of testosterone drooling going on here- “nascarev” indeed. What I see that I do appreciate? a battery that can recharge while I sip the morning latte, or while I buy the weekly groceries. I don’t really need a shorter pitstop on transcontinental road trips (but range would be a plus there) I am personally against “cars” be sure. Too fast, too expensive, too regulated. Give me a bike for 2 or 3 plus luggage, no onerous regs, no permits, no operator licences, no insurance, etcetcetc. All it takes is re-imagining what we passed up (refer back to “testosterone comment). Cost? anybody note the recent spreads (WSJ) about Lithium mining, whos the “saudi Arabia (not Red China), whats there political situation etc?? Li is currently cheap, but wait till the market takes off. Can anybody say “ground floor oportunity knocks?” , well, consider the (mine location!)

]]> By: Michael Robinson http://gm-volt.com/2009/03/13/qa-with-lithium-battery-charging-breakthrough-inventor-byoungwoo-kang-and-what-does-this-mean-for-electric-cars/#comment-100694 Michael Robinson Mon, 16 Mar 2009 04:34:14 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1567#comment-100694 This development doesn't help in the areas where help is needed. Applying greater current densities to charge a battery faster does not strike me as being safe at all. Worse, the argument that you can plug in anywhere goes out the window if a standard outlet won't do. The answer for quick recharge is a different kind of battery called a fuel cell. If your fuel cell cell doesn't use platinum, it may be cheap enough to be practical. Unfortunately, no automaker that I know of is releasing platinum free fuel cell prototypes. Carbon is a wonderful material when it is nanostructured for replacing platinum. If a quick charge Lithium ION battery costs more than a conventional one or it doesn't last as long, this technology is useless on the Volt. Already, it has been shown that the Volt isn't economical. I'd rather spend too much on a fuel cell than a Lithium ION battery. Quick charge is 3 minutes, the time it takes to refuel the typical fuel cell prototype car. With the adoption of Hydrnol and the replacement of the high pressure or cryogenic tank with a dual chamber Hydrnol tank, hydrogen becomes very attractive. Hydrnol will be available along the I-5 corridor from California up into British Columbia in 18-24 months. http://www.asemblon.com/hydrnol/faq This development doesn’t help in the areas where help is needed.
Applying greater current densities to charge a battery faster does
not strike me as being safe at all. Worse, the argument that you
can plug in anywhere goes out the window if a standard outlet
won’t do.

The answer for quick recharge is a different kind of battery called
a fuel cell. If your fuel cell cell doesn’t use platinum, it may be cheap
enough to be practical. Unfortunately, no automaker that I know of
is releasing platinum free fuel cell prototypes. Carbon is a wonderful material when it is nanostructured for replacing platinum.

If a quick charge Lithium ION battery costs more than a conventional one or it doesn’t last as long, this technology is
useless on the Volt. Already, it has been shown that the Volt
isn’t economical. I’d rather spend too much on a fuel cell than
a Lithium ION battery.

Quick charge is 3 minutes, the time it takes to refuel the typical
fuel cell prototype car. With the adoption of Hydrnol and the replacement of the high pressure or cryogenic tank with a dual
chamber Hydrnol tank, hydrogen becomes very attractive.
Hydrnol will be available along the I-5 corridor from California up
into British Columbia in 18-24 months.

http://www.asemblon.com/hydrnol/faq

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