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		<title>By: Minnis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 05:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great post, thanks for providing so much.  Keep up the good posts.! www.hoover-f5914900.com</description>
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		<title>By: LauraM</title>
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		<dc:creator>LauraM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>107 BillR/ #112 CaptJackSparrow

By normal (i.e. before september 2008) exchange rates, 20,000 pounds equaled roughly 40,000 dollars.  The British pound has fallen off a cliff since then, but that figure is probably based on the pound making a comeback by 2012.  Since the pound hasn&#039;t been this low in  years, I don&#039;t think that that&#039;s an unreasonable assumption.  

Personally, I&#039;m hoping that they&#039;re also building economies of scale into that figure.  And they&#039;ll reduce the price for everyone by then.    Including us.</description>
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<p>By normal (i.e. before september 2008) exchange rates, 20,000 pounds equaled roughly 40,000 dollars.  The British pound has fallen off a cliff since then, but that figure is probably based on the pound making a comeback by 2012.  Since the pound hasn&#8217;t been this low in  years, I don&#8217;t think that that&#8217;s an unreasonable assumption.  </p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m hoping that they&#8217;re also building economies of scale into that figure.  And they&#8217;ll reduce the price for everyone by then.    Including us.</p>
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		<title>By: noel park</title>
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		<dc:creator>noel park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t open the next thread, with the video of the visit to GM.  Is anyone else having the same problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t open the next thread, with the video of the visit to GM.  Is anyone else having the same problem?</p>
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		<title>By: The Grump</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Grump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many posters here don&#039;t understand the difference between chapter 7 and chapter 11 bankruptcy - they just talk about GM being &quot;destroyed&quot;. Therefore, as a public service, I have provided a short description of the two bankruptcy types in this thread. 
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- Under a chapter 11, the debtor may seek an adjustment of debts, either by reducing the debt or by extending the time for repayment, or may seek a more comprehensive reorganization.
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- A chapter 7 bankruptcy case does not involve the filing of a plan of repayment as in chapter 11. Instead, the bankruptcy trustee gathers and sells the debtor&#039;s nonexempt assets and uses the proceeds of such assets to pay holders of claims (creditors) in accordance with the provisions of the Bankruptcy Code.
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#105 N Riley - GM can continue to operate under chapter 11. The big difference - Every financial report would be submitted to the bankruptcy court. GM would really be under the gun to improve their profits, but GM&#039;s problems would be shared fairly with all their debtors - the UAW, retirees, dealers, suppliers, and the biggest villain in this sorry drama - the shareholders. They voted for Wagner, over and over, while he fiddled, and GM burned. And quite possibly, the court would allow payment to Gm&#039;s suppliers as vital to GM&#039;s success. The court has that ability to selectively choose who gets what, and when.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many posters here don&#8217;t understand the difference between chapter 7 and chapter 11 bankruptcy &#8211; they just talk about GM being &#8220;destroyed&#8221;. Therefore, as a public service, I have provided a short description of the two bankruptcy types in this thread.<br />
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- Under a chapter 11, the debtor may seek an adjustment of debts, either by reducing the debt or by extending the time for repayment, or may seek a more comprehensive reorganization.<br />
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- A chapter 7 bankruptcy case does not involve the filing of a plan of repayment as in chapter 11. Instead, the bankruptcy trustee gathers and sells the debtor&#8217;s nonexempt assets and uses the proceeds of such assets to pay holders of claims (creditors) in accordance with the provisions of the Bankruptcy Code.<br />
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#105 N Riley &#8211; GM can continue to operate under chapter 11. The big difference &#8211; Every financial report would be submitted to the bankruptcy court. GM would really be under the gun to improve their profits, but GM&#8217;s problems would be shared fairly with all their debtors &#8211; the UAW, retirees, dealers, suppliers, and the biggest villain in this sorry drama &#8211; the shareholders. They voted for Wagner, over and over, while he fiddled, and GM burned. And quite possibly, the court would allow payment to Gm&#8217;s suppliers as vital to GM&#8217;s success. The court has that ability to selectively choose who gets what, and when.</p>
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		<title>By: GM's marketing must have been in charge</title>
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		<dc:creator>GM's marketing must have been in charge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Detroit Freep:
&quot;President Obama’s automotive task force… panel…today took a private tour today of General Motors Corp. and Chrysler facilities, traveling around Metro Detroit in a 2009 Jeep Grand Cherokee.&quot; 

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/2008car1tablef.jsp?id=26181

2009 Jeep Grand Cherokee = 12 mpg combined fuel economy, the worst of all SUVs of any size.

Way to send a mixed message to Detroit and the nation, automakers. Talk about cognitive dissonance.

Or do Detroit streets now count as rugged, extreme off-roading? Also, what were they towing, air?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Detroit Freep:<br />
&#8220;President Obama’s automotive task force… panel…today took a private tour today of General Motors Corp. and Chrysler facilities, traveling around Metro Detroit in a 2009 Jeep Grand Cherokee.&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/2008car1tablef.jsp?id=26181" rel="nofollow">http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/2008car1tablef.jsp?id=26181</a></p>
<p>2009 Jeep Grand Cherokee = 12 mpg combined fuel economy, the worst of all SUVs of any size.</p>
<p>Way to send a mixed message to Detroit and the nation, automakers. Talk about cognitive dissonance.</p>
<p>Or do Detroit streets now count as rugged, extreme off-roading? Also, what were they towing, air?</p>
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