Comments on: GM Remains Committed to the Plug-in Saturn VUE Program http://gm-volt.com/2009/02/21/gm-remains-committed-to-the-plug-in-saturn-vue-program/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Fri, 25 May 2012 19:51:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: john1701a http://gm-volt.com/2009/02/21/gm-remains-committed-to-the-plug-in-saturn-vue-program/#comment-97096 john1701a Tue, 24 Feb 2009 02:21:32 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1535#comment-97096 Here's the monthly averages for the 5 years of data collected from my 2004 Prius: MON .... MPG .... GALLONS .... MILES ----------------------------------------------- Jan .... 43.2 .... 239.639 .... 10,347 Feb .... 43.6 .... 166.645 .... 7,259 Mar .... 46.3 .... 205.394 .... 9,501 Apr .... 47.1 .... 222.576 .... 10,485 May .... 50.6 .... 174.843 .... 8,850 Jun .... 52.2 .... 165.610 .... 8,651 Jul .... 51.6 .... 183.540 .... 9,471 Aug .... 51.2 .... 179.449 .... 9,179 Sep .... 50.7 .... 167.281 .... 8,481 Oct .... 48.2 .... 198.210 .... 9,544 Nov .... 47.1 .... 213.463 .... 10,059 Dec .... 44.4 .... 226.285 .... 10,056 Notice how trends like distance are not reflected in your estimates, since they don't taken into account the influence season has on travel itself. You'd think I'd drive more during the nice weather months. Turns out, the real-world situation is quite the opposite... except February, which for some odd reason is unique. Here’s the monthly averages for the 5 years of data collected from my 2004 Prius:

MON …. MPG …. GALLONS …. MILES
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Jan …. 43.2 …. 239.639 …. 10,347
Feb …. 43.6 …. 166.645 …. 7,259
Mar …. 46.3 …. 205.394 …. 9,501
Apr …. 47.1 …. 222.576 …. 10,485
May …. 50.6 …. 174.843 …. 8,850
Jun …. 52.2 …. 165.610 …. 8,651
Jul …. 51.6 …. 183.540 …. 9,471
Aug …. 51.2 …. 179.449 …. 9,179
Sep …. 50.7 …. 167.281 …. 8,481
Oct …. 48.2 …. 198.210 …. 9,544
Nov …. 47.1 …. 213.463 …. 10,059
Dec …. 44.4 …. 226.285 …. 10,056

Notice how trends like distance are not reflected in your estimates, since they don’t taken into account the influence season has on travel itself. You’d think I’d drive more during the nice weather months. Turns out, the real-world situation is quite the opposite… except February, which for some odd reason is unique.

]]> By: john1701a http://gm-volt.com/2009/02/21/gm-remains-committed-to-the-plug-in-saturn-vue-program/#comment-97061 john1701a Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:41:28 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1535#comment-97061 <i>anemic 10-mile range</i> _________________________ That's even worse than accleration arguments, where it's supposedly never enough. Whatever. People don't fall for that nonsense anymore. They take the test drives, get comments from others, consider their needs, then buy. Things like a short commute change the "anemic" range claim to "no brainer" very easily. anemic 10-mile range
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That’s even worse than accleration arguments, where it’s supposedly never enough.

Whatever. People don’t fall for that nonsense anymore. They take the test drives, get comments from others, consider their needs, then buy.

Things like a short commute change the “anemic” range claim to “no brainer” very easily.

]]> By: Assumptions matter. http://gm-volt.com/2009/02/21/gm-remains-committed-to-the-plug-in-saturn-vue-program/#comment-96979 Assumptions matter. Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:43:39 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1535#comment-96979 #100 Dave G, “If you have a PHEV with an anemic 10-mile range, and you only plug-in at night, you don’t really save a lot of gas. I’ve shown this numerous times in various charts.” If your total daily commute is 10 miles, a PHEV with a 10 mile range saves you 100% of the gas you would use in a full gasser. Let's hear from people who already own and use plug in electric vehicles and their actual results rather than your tottering speculative conclusions based on your arbitrary assumptions. #100 Dave G,
“If you have a PHEV with an anemic 10-mile range, and you only plug-in at night, you don’t really save a lot of gas. I’ve shown this numerous times in various charts.”

If your total daily commute is 10 miles, a PHEV with a 10 mile range saves you 100% of the gas you would use in a full gasser.

Let’s hear from people who already own and use plug in electric vehicles and their actual results rather than your tottering speculative conclusions based on your arbitrary assumptions.

]]> By: john1701a http://gm-volt.com/2009/02/21/gm-remains-committed-to-the-plug-in-saturn-vue-program/#comment-96972 john1701a Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:28:31 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1535#comment-96972 <b>Worth</b> comes from each person contributing. They do whatever they can to help out. Some simply cannot afford that much battery-capacity, but still want to do their part. In other words, don't draw a conclusion before people have even have a chance to make their decision. That's the same thing GM did with EV1, ending production before most consumers had an opportunity to choose. Worth comes from each person contributing. They do whatever they can to help out. Some simply cannot afford that much battery-capacity, but still want to do their part.

In other words, don’t draw a conclusion before people have even have a chance to make their decision. That’s the same thing GM did with EV1, ending production before most consumers had an opportunity to choose.

]]> By: john1701a http://gm-volt.com/2009/02/21/gm-remains-committed-to-the-plug-in-saturn-vue-program/#comment-96935 john1701a Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:16:51 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1535#comment-96935 <i>Using a typical yearly driving pattern of:</i> ______________________________ You've been pushing that theoretical model for a half year now. Too bad it's still just a crude estimate. I guess logging your own driving now, making a collection of real-world data for use later, is too much of a <b>hassle</b>. I've been collecting for 8.5 years. That's 172,837 miles of real-world data. Using a typical yearly driving pattern of:
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You’ve been pushing that theoretical model for a half year now. Too bad it’s still just a crude estimate. I guess logging your own driving now, making a collection of real-world data for use later, is too much of a hassle.

I’ve been collecting for 8.5 years. That’s 172,837 miles of real-world data.

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