Comments on: Automakers Poised to Profit From Electric Car Batteries, GM Missed its First Chance, Will it Also Miss its Second? http://gm-volt.com/2009/01/29/automakers-poised-to-profit-from-electric-car-batteries-gm-missed-its-first-chance-will-it-also-miss-its-second/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Fri, 25 May 2012 18:42:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: global warming and ocean life - Page 2 - US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum http://gm-volt.com/2009/01/29/automakers-poised-to-profit-from-electric-car-batteries-gm-missed-its-first-chance-will-it-also-miss-its-second/#comment-96378 global warming and ocean life - Page 2 - US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:14:04 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1496#comment-96378 [...] It is pointed out that Toyota is one of the only automakers that produces its own batteries. This gives them a competitive edge when future electric vehicles begin selling in large volumes. If EV battery demand outstrips supply, they could then keep those batteries for their own cars shutting out competitors, or sell them to other OEMs at significant profit. It was also noted that Nissan is in a joint venture with NEC that has plans to produce enough batteries to power 200,000 electric cars within the next few years. The fact that Telsa will be supplying lithium batteries to Daimler is also mentioned. Those cells will be going into a test fleet of 1000 Smart EVs that will roll out onto US roads in 2010. Daimler itself also owns 90% of a new joint venture with Evonik Industries to build lithium ion cells not only for its own vehicles but for other manufacturers. Automakers Poised to Profit From Electric Car Batteries, GM Missed its First Chance, Will it Also Mi... [...] [...] It is pointed out that Toyota is one of the only automakers that produces its own batteries. This gives them a competitive edge when future electric vehicles begin selling in large volumes. If EV battery demand outstrips supply, they could then keep those batteries for their own cars shutting out competitors, or sell them to other OEMs at significant profit. It was also noted that Nissan is in a joint venture with NEC that has plans to produce enough batteries to power 200,000 electric cars within the next few years. The fact that Telsa will be supplying lithium batteries to Daimler is also mentioned. Those cells will be going into a test fleet of 1000 Smart EVs that will roll out onto US roads in 2010. Daimler itself also owns 90% of a new joint venture with Evonik Industries to build lithium ion cells not only for its own vehicles but for other manufacturers. Automakers Poised to Profit From Electric Car Batteries, GM Missed its First Chance, Will it Also Mi… [...]

]]> By: Rashiid Amul http://gm-volt.com/2009/01/29/automakers-poised-to-profit-from-electric-car-batteries-gm-missed-its-first-chance-will-it-also-miss-its-second/#comment-94564 Rashiid Amul Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:48:59 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1496#comment-94564 Blue Blue

]]> By: NZDavid http://gm-volt.com/2009/01/29/automakers-poised-to-profit-from-electric-car-batteries-gm-missed-its-first-chance-will-it-also-miss-its-second/#comment-93087 NZDavid Sun, 01 Feb 2009 09:31:39 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1496#comment-93087 tim-the-dreamer Says: February 1st, 2009 at 12:16 am <i>NZDavid @96, Thought I mentioned such facts before? Didn’t you respond for GM to “just stop”? Are you working for the oil cartels? :-)</i> Why on earth would you think that I work for the oil cartels? I am saying <b>H2 in cars is a bad idea</b>. It's the oil companies that would like H2 as it's difficult to handle, needs specialised transport, distribution systems to be put in place etc. I want GM to stop wasting money and resources on H2 development, unless, of course, it helps the Voltec electric drivetrain. <B>LJGTVWOTR</B> NO plug, NO sale tim-the-dreamer Says:
February 1st, 2009 at 12:16 am
NZDavid @96,
Thought I mentioned such facts before? Didn’t you respond for GM to “just stop”? Are you working for the oil cartels? :-)

Why on earth would you think that I work for the oil cartels? I am saying H2 in cars is a bad idea. It’s the oil companies that would like H2 as it’s difficult to handle, needs specialised transport, distribution systems to be put in place etc.

I want GM to stop wasting money and resources on H2 development, unless, of course, it helps the Voltec electric drivetrain.

LJGTVWOTR
NO plug, NO sale

]]> By: tim-the-dreamer http://gm-volt.com/2009/01/29/automakers-poised-to-profit-from-electric-car-batteries-gm-missed-its-first-chance-will-it-also-miss-its-second/#comment-93086 tim-the-dreamer Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:41:27 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1496#comment-93086 Personnaly, I think Lyle deserves both. IMHO. Personnaly, I think Lyle deserves both. IMHO.

]]> By: tim-the-dreamer http://gm-volt.com/2009/01/29/automakers-poised-to-profit-from-electric-car-batteries-gm-missed-its-first-chance-will-it-also-miss-its-second/#comment-93085 tim-the-dreamer Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:24:19 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1496#comment-93085 Besides, alternitives need refinement as well. Wind, solar, geothermal, nuclear, hydro,..etc, can all be used to provide power and fuel. Wind & solar are sporatic, but require no active fuel. Nuclear,--shut the tree humpers up and maybe we can get the fusion reactors going. Thanks for killing the fundings for that one, Willy! H2 doesn't have to be the end all fuels. Just part of the solution. Not everyone will take the same vehicles, nor can the same vehicles perform the same task. Heavy work trucks may not be suitable for volttec. They may require diesel, bio-fuels, or something in the long run. Right now GM is on the right track, thanks to folks like Lyle who provide us with a means to tell GM what we want. If anything Lyle should be given a medal or a Converj as a reward for his efforts. He's had to put up with us for heaven's sake! ;-) . Besides,
alternitives need refinement as well. Wind, solar, geothermal, nuclear, hydro,..etc, can all be used to provide power and fuel. Wind & solar are sporatic, but require no active fuel. Nuclear,–shut the tree humpers up and maybe we can get the fusion reactors going. Thanks for killing the fundings for that one, Willy! H2 doesn’t have to be the end all fuels. Just part of the solution. Not everyone will take the same vehicles, nor can the same vehicles perform the same task. Heavy work trucks may not be suitable for volttec. They may require diesel, bio-fuels, or something in the long run. Right now GM is on the right track, thanks to folks like Lyle who provide us with a means to tell GM what we want. If anything Lyle should be given a medal or a Converj as a reward for his efforts. He’s had to put up with us for heaven’s sake! ;-) .

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