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	<title>Comments on: GM Volt Battery Plant to Cost $30 Million, Will Open in 2010, and Will be Converted From Existing Facility</title>
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		<title>By: future-engineer</title>
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		<dc:creator>future-engineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its funny how people think the chevy volt will help the environment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its funny how people think the chevy volt will help the environment</p>
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		<title>By: jeffhre</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffhre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s great we can rest assured GM has one guaranteed, and excited, customer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s great we can rest assured GM has one guaranteed, and excited, customer!</p>
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		<title>By: hot north</title>
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		<dc:creator>hot north</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 01:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>put out the steam engines gm  change will stimulate loads of business !!!!!! give the costomer the choice of zero emisions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>put out the steam engines gm  change will stimulate loads of business !!!!!! give the costomer the choice of zero emisions</p>
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		<title>By: Herm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 06:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cost of LG cells may go thru the roof in 2010-11 if a lot of car manufacturers start demanding cells.. world capacity to produce cells is limited.

Will LG give priority to Korean car companies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cost of LG cells may go thru the roof in 2010-11 if a lot of car manufacturers start demanding cells.. world capacity to produce cells is limited.</p>
<p>Will LG give priority to Korean car companies?</p>
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		<title>By: GM Volt Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>GM Volt Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>93. Dieter Zetsche

You wrote:

&quot;As the inventor of the modern automobile it is Daimler’s destiny to assume leadership of automotive world now that GM has official ceded their role. I remember well when Mr. Daimler’s son Paul was proudly riding his Einspur (the world’s first motorcycle) back in 1885. Everybody knows that us Germans are the world’s greatest automotive engineers. It’s about time we resumed our rightful place atop this glorious industry.&quot;


Read this:

http://jalopnik.com/5137035/what-happened-to-german-cars

&quot;There&#039;s a reason why we&#039;d rather have a Cadillac CTS-V than an M5 or an M3. It&#039;s because the CTS-V is more exciting than anything Germany is putting out.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>93. Dieter Zetsche</p>
<p>You wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;As the inventor of the modern automobile it is Daimler’s destiny to assume leadership of automotive world now that GM has official ceded their role. I remember well when Mr. Daimler’s son Paul was proudly riding his Einspur (the world’s first motorcycle) back in 1885. Everybody knows that us Germans are the world’s greatest automotive engineers. It’s about time we resumed our rightful place atop this glorious industry.&#8221;</p>
<p>Read this:</p>
<p><a href="http://jalopnik.com/5137035/what-happened-to-german-cars" rel="nofollow">http://jalopnik.com/5137035/what-happened-to-german-cars</a></p>
<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s a reason why we&#8217;d rather have a Cadillac CTS-V than an M5 or an M3. It&#8217;s because the CTS-V is more exciting than anything Germany is putting out.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffhre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffhre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave G

What’s not to like?
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Ummm...Having to spend 370 million to build engines that have already been developed and are in use now, and adding it to the cost of an electric car vs. 30 million for brand new cutting edge propulsion technology. If one is eventually used without the other, possibly when battery technologies can be used to lower the capital investments required for building cars,  maybe cars will be less expensive for consumers. Preferably the one system that could eventually be replaced is the expensive one with hundreds of moving parts that burns fuel, uses expensive catalytic converters and leaves behind a few tons of carbon from the tailpipe in the atmosphere. All the more reason to support battery development. Unfortunately my crystal ball is in the shop. Not only do I not know what most people will really buy at sufficient margins to sustain a business, I can&#039;t possibly predict what the end-game is either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave G</p>
<p>What’s not to like?<br />
___________</p>
<p>Ummm&#8230;Having to spend 370 million to build engines that have already been developed and are in use now, and adding it to the cost of an electric car vs. 30 million for brand new cutting edge propulsion technology. If one is eventually used without the other, possibly when battery technologies can be used to lower the capital investments required for building cars,  maybe cars will be less expensive for consumers. Preferably the one system that could eventually be replaced is the expensive one with hundreds of moving parts that burns fuel, uses expensive catalytic converters and leaves behind a few tons of carbon from the tailpipe in the atmosphere. All the more reason to support battery development. Unfortunately my crystal ball is in the shop. Not only do I not know what most people will really buy at sufficient margins to sustain a business, I can&#8217;t possibly predict what the end-game is either.</p>
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		<title>By: HyperMiler</title>
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		<dc:creator>HyperMiler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>117 # statik Says

&gt; No, not at all (well they could have given LG Chem some cash to get started, that kind of thing is very tricky to find out). 

LG did receive a few million dollars in R&amp;D funding from GM. However, LG was already working on the battery tech for Korean automakers under heavy Korean government funding; LG simply adopted its existing work to Volt spec.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>117 # statik Says</p>
<p>&gt; No, not at all (well they could have given LG Chem some cash to get started, that kind of thing is very tricky to find out). </p>
<p>LG did receive a few million dollars in R&amp;D funding from GM. However, LG was already working on the battery tech for Korean automakers under heavy Korean government funding; LG simply adopted its existing work to Volt spec.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#87 Fugio chow

Bitch slapped? I mean not that I care, but were talking what just over 600,000 cars?

lets see...#1 manufacturer for 80 YEARS  = GM
 Toyota...what...3 weeks now?

if you want to use the term bitch slapped..talk to me in 81 years...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#87 Fugio chow</p>
<p>Bitch slapped? I mean not that I care, but were talking what just over 600,000 cars?</p>
<p>lets see&#8230;#1 manufacturer for 80 YEARS  = GM<br />
 Toyota&#8230;what&#8230;3 weeks now?</p>
<p>if you want to use the term bitch slapped..talk to me in 81 years&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: statik</title>
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		<dc:creator>statik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#90 RB said:

statik said “…this battery plant, the 4 banger plant on hiatus still, LG Chem up front cash, etc.”
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Has GM actually spent any money on any of these things?
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No, not at all (well they could have given LG Chem some cash to get started, that kind of thing is very tricky to find out).  

Thats what I meant by those things are all added expenses (above my simple calculation) that have been delayed out or put on hiatus during the &#039;crisis&#039;, but need to be addressed now if GM is to be a on-going concern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#90 RB said:</p>
<p>statik said “…this battery plant, the 4 banger plant on hiatus still, LG Chem up front cash, etc.”<br />
———</p>
<p>Has GM actually spent any money on any of these things?<br />
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No, not at all (well they could have given LG Chem some cash to get started, that kind of thing is very tricky to find out).  </p>
<p>Thats what I meant by those things are all added expenses (above my simple calculation) that have been delayed out or put on hiatus during the &#8216;crisis&#8217;, but need to be addressed now if GM is to be a on-going concern.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#95 Jeffhre Says: &quot;OK I’m slow but I just noticed this. Engine plant will cost $370 million and battery plant $30 million. Does it seem like building cars will be a more manageable investment when the ICE is replaced completely by advanced battery technology?&quot;
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By that logic, GM should start producing bicycles instead of cars, since they are much simpler and cheaper to build.  The problem is that most people don&#039;t want to ride a bike to work or to the store.

My point is that car makers need to build cars that people want, and most people don&#039;t want a pure EV.  This is why I&#039;m so excited about EREVs.  Most people would want this type of car.  What&#039;s not to like?

Some consider EREVs as just a temporary stepping stone to an end-game of pure EVs.  I think the combination EREVs and ethanol is the end-game.  

Customers don&#039;t care about the relative complexity of one design to another, and manufacturers always find ways to make the most popular design cheaper to build.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#95 Jeffhre Says: &#8220;OK I’m slow but I just noticed this. Engine plant will cost $370 million and battery plant $30 million. Does it seem like building cars will be a more manageable investment when the ICE is replaced completely by advanced battery technology?&#8221;<br />
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By that logic, GM should start producing bicycles instead of cars, since they are much simpler and cheaper to build.  The problem is that most people don&#8217;t want to ride a bike to work or to the store.</p>
<p>My point is that car makers need to build cars that people want, and most people don&#8217;t want a pure EV.  This is why I&#8217;m so excited about EREVs.  Most people would want this type of car.  What&#8217;s not to like?</p>
<p>Some consider EREVs as just a temporary stepping stone to an end-game of pure EVs.  I think the combination EREVs and ethanol is the end-game.  </p>
<p>Customers don&#8217;t care about the relative complexity of one design to another, and manufacturers always find ways to make the most popular design cheaper to build.</p>
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