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	<title>Comments on: Status of the 2-Mode Hybrid and Plug-in Hybrid Saturn VUE</title>
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		<title>By: asydayByday</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2009/01/08/status-of-the-2-mode-hybrid-and-plug-in-hybrid-saturn-vue/#comment-107427</link>
		<dc:creator>asydayByday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As that time at me has not risen also I has started to panic,
 there are no well you представте only еслиб has not risen
 at you, thank God that the wife has advised this preparation,
 whether I have bought 10 packs at once for a year \I advise
 also to you it to buy and that a little that everyone can happen
 Here I am direct and have bought from them appreciate after all more cheaply
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Be happy :) 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As that time at me has not risen also I has started to panic,<br />
 there are no well you представте only еслиб has not risen<br />
 at you, thank God that the wife has advised this preparation,<br />
 whether I have bought 10 packs at once for a year \I advise<br />
 also to you it to buy and that a little that everyone can happen<br />
 Here I am direct and have bought from them appreciate after all more cheaply<br />
<a href="http://www.viddler.com/explore/laminator" rel="nofollow">http://www.viddler.com/explore/laminator</a><br />
Be happy <img src='http://gm-volt.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
post.s. thi not funny spam, this is life..</p>
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		<title>By: Dave G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#73 Darius

Corn ethanol only accounts for 4% of our gasoline supply.  To help end our addition to foreign oil, we&#039;ll need 25-35% of our gasoline converted to ethanol.  Corn simply can&#039;t scale that high.  

Have you clicked on this link yet?
http://www.coskata.com/EthanolFeedstockPotential.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#73 Darius</p>
<p>Corn ethanol only accounts for 4% of our gasoline supply.  To help end our addition to foreign oil, we&#8217;ll need 25-35% of our gasoline converted to ethanol.  Corn simply can&#8217;t scale that high.  </p>
<p>Have you clicked on this link yet?<br />
<a href="http://www.coskata.com/EthanolFeedstockPotential.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.coskata.com/EthanolFeedstockPotential.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2009/01/08/status-of-the-2-mode-hybrid-and-plug-in-hybrid-saturn-vue/#comment-90244</link>
		<dc:creator>Darius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#70 Dave G.

It is surprising for me that major part of energy is used to grow corn. On other hand you have to grow corn anyway because you have to feed cows and pigs. And you don&#039;t loose any food when extracting ethanol. In fact you can totally avoid this energy usage in your calculations.

On other hand you have to use lot of energy to grow cellulose (trees) especially when cutting and transporting from remote places. Evaluation and comparison of those figures very problematic.

P.S. Sorry for being too hesitant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#70 Dave G.</p>
<p>It is surprising for me that major part of energy is used to grow corn. On other hand you have to grow corn anyway because you have to feed cows and pigs. And you don&#8217;t loose any food when extracting ethanol. In fact you can totally avoid this energy usage in your calculations.</p>
<p>On other hand you have to use lot of energy to grow cellulose (trees) especially when cutting and transporting from remote places. Evaluation and comparison of those figures very problematic.</p>
<p>P.S. Sorry for being too hesitant.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Watkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Watkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a 2002 ford focus station wagon that gets 27MPG city why would I want to throw away more that 30000.00 to get 28 MPG??  I want more that 50 MPG or forget it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 2002 ford focus station wagon that gets 27MPG city why would I want to throw away more that 30000.00 to get 28 MPG??  I want more that 50 MPG or forget it.</p>
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		<title>By: stas peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>stas peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#43, Don C,

I agree with you about Congresseman Stupid.  Mr. Markey was in  the wrong line when they were passing out brains.

But your comments about powerplants are completely offbase.  Mr. Hardwicke is correct. Yes it is true that many powerplants are run 24x7, but that does NOT mean that they are working hard all the time.  

Consider this, suppose you had your car hooked to a heavily loaded trailer and were pulling it up a steep mountain road.  Do you think you would be using the same amount of fuel, as if you were at a stop light and had shifted into Neutral and were just idling the engine?  Of course not!

Yet the engine is running in both situations.  Such is the case with a power plant too.  Some plants are always on-line to to &quot;load-follow&quot; and to produce electricity as and when the demand is created by customers.  Others are idleing at &quot;no-load&quot;,  just as your car at the stop light when shifted into neutral.  Your car pulling that loaded trailer is &quot;load-following&quot;, and works harder as the road grows steeper, and works less hard, and consumes less fuel, as the grade gets less steep.  Your  engine is &quot;load-following&quot;  just like a powerplant.  

No excess electricity is ever generated.  Think about it, if the power plants cannot produce enough momentarily, the lights dim; if that condition persists you have a &quot;brownout&quot;.  If they produce too much, the lights would be at over voltage, and grow too bright and burn out.  Power plants &quot;Load-follow&quot;. Period. 

Having the capability to generate 300 HP in your auto engine, does not mean that your auto makes 300HP all the time. Usually the demand is much less.  Similarly you have paid for the car and you don&#039;t use it all day and all night, but you could.  The power companies are in the same boat.  If you did run your car day and night it would wear out faster but suppose you had bought it and used it as a taxi. You would make a lot more fares if you ran it as much as you could.  Power companies are in the exact same position.  They can run all their equipment heavily and generate enough power to recharge most of the nations electric autos. But they would need to build new power plants as the old ones wore out sooner.

Thankfully, adults are in charge unlike the Markeys and Odumma&#039;s of the world and they are already preparing to do exactly that. They need to prudently plan ten years ahead, and they are.  The decisions to build, have been made.

Now all we have to do is make sure the mentally challenged  like Odumma&#039;s choice for EPA, Ms. Browner, possibly the only person stupider than Markey; or John Holgren his choice for Science Advisor don&#039;t screw it up.  Since Mr. Holgren lost his famous wager with Julian Simon revealing his utter lack of foresight and common sense;  and his prediction that the population of the USA would now be only 22 million starving peasants eaking out a bare existence, was hopelessly screwball; the hope is only that. These two are hardly other than dimbulbs at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#43, Don C,</p>
<p>I agree with you about Congresseman Stupid.  Mr. Markey was in  the wrong line when they were passing out brains.</p>
<p>But your comments about powerplants are completely offbase.  Mr. Hardwicke is correct. Yes it is true that many powerplants are run 24&#215;7, but that does NOT mean that they are working hard all the time.  </p>
<p>Consider this, suppose you had your car hooked to a heavily loaded trailer and were pulling it up a steep mountain road.  Do you think you would be using the same amount of fuel, as if you were at a stop light and had shifted into Neutral and were just idling the engine?  Of course not!</p>
<p>Yet the engine is running in both situations.  Such is the case with a power plant too.  Some plants are always on-line to to &#8220;load-follow&#8221; and to produce electricity as and when the demand is created by customers.  Others are idleing at &#8220;no-load&#8221;,  just as your car at the stop light when shifted into neutral.  Your car pulling that loaded trailer is &#8220;load-following&#8221;, and works harder as the road grows steeper, and works less hard, and consumes less fuel, as the grade gets less steep.  Your  engine is &#8220;load-following&#8221;  just like a powerplant.  </p>
<p>No excess electricity is ever generated.  Think about it, if the power plants cannot produce enough momentarily, the lights dim; if that condition persists you have a &#8220;brownout&#8221;.  If they produce too much, the lights would be at over voltage, and grow too bright and burn out.  Power plants &#8220;Load-follow&#8221;. Period. </p>
<p>Having the capability to generate 300 HP in your auto engine, does not mean that your auto makes 300HP all the time. Usually the demand is much less.  Similarly you have paid for the car and you don&#8217;t use it all day and all night, but you could.  The power companies are in the same boat.  If you did run your car day and night it would wear out faster but suppose you had bought it and used it as a taxi. You would make a lot more fares if you ran it as much as you could.  Power companies are in the exact same position.  They can run all their equipment heavily and generate enough power to recharge most of the nations electric autos. But they would need to build new power plants as the old ones wore out sooner.</p>
<p>Thankfully, adults are in charge unlike the Markeys and Odumma&#8217;s of the world and they are already preparing to do exactly that. They need to prudently plan ten years ahead, and they are.  The decisions to build, have been made.</p>
<p>Now all we have to do is make sure the mentally challenged  like Odumma&#8217;s choice for EPA, Ms. Browner, possibly the only person stupider than Markey; or John Holgren his choice for Science Advisor don&#8217;t screw it up.  Since Mr. Holgren lost his famous wager with Julian Simon revealing his utter lack of foresight and common sense;  and his prediction that the population of the USA would now be only 22 million starving peasants eaking out a bare existence, was hopelessly screwball; the hope is only that. These two are hardly other than dimbulbs at best.</p>
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