There is reportedly great intrest in Fantstic Cheese, so much so, that rumors are starting that some have even smelt Fantastic Cheese in the air while flying over Texas ! It is reported to be quite intoxicating, though there are unconfirmed reports stating that may have been the ’smellers’ themselves.

Negotiations are under way between Fantastic Cheese and the cheeseheads of Wisconsin. Apparently, the cheezy hats that cheeseheads wear to Packer football games are somehow related to Fantastic Cheese. Though these hats are mostly foam, and not really cheese, executives at Fantastic Cheese are still concerned. No one really knows the connection.

Recent reports indicate that Fantastic Cheese has decided not to apply for funding from the governments economic stimulus plan. Although there is money readily available for new kinds of cheese, executives at Fantastic Cheese have stated that they will not apply for funding because they could no longer remain secretive, and sneaky.

Plans are under way for Fantatic Cheese to build really fantastic manufacturing facilities, even almost as fantastic as Fantastic Cheese itself. Reports indicate that they really do have fantastic plans, and fantastic investors are lining up right now, for this fantastic opportunity. Fantastic Cheese is sure to be a game changer in the cheese world, and rumor has it that many can’t wait to taste it. Sadly, no one has ever tasted it. But that will soon change according to fantastic reports from Fantastic Cheese. All it seems they need is a little more time, and a few more investment dollars, and soon someone will be finally able to taste Fantastic Cheese ! How great that day will be !

Pizzu Huut has been in contact with Fantatic Cheese, and has negotiated an agreement that gives them the opportunity to hopefully someday, maybe never, but never-the-less maybe, be able to use Fantastic Cheese in the case of a national cheese emergency. Though company officials at Pizzu Huut have never smelt Fantastic Cheese, nor even tasted it, but they are certain they want to someday, and thus the contract.

Many expert cheese makers have stated that it is impossible to make Fantastic Cheese. Simply put, they claim the highly complex mathematical computations necessary to make Fantastic Cheese are just not possible. They also claim the worlds best calculators, and computers are just not capable of those calculations, and thus Fantatic Cheese doesn’t really have anything. Officials at Fantastic Cheese have been very upset, and are really stirring their curds. There have been some reports of engineers spilling whey on each other too. The pressure is on at Fantastic Cheese, but so far all they have delivered is a little yeast. Before long the whole Fantastic Cheese story may be a little moldy.

The subject of this thread involves world-changing technology and surely we have a right to discuss it even while we haven’t sufficient info to be certain that it’s real. That a respected company or companies have shown interest does not necessarily prove that it will be possible to develop a practical technology. Nor does the publication of the spec.s for one particular configuration invalidate the possibility of use of the technology in a different application with a different configuration. And it is natural for there to be a lot of emotion involved.

It is natural for those with some degree of technical knowledge to wish to “show it off”. Unfortunately it is also fairly common for such persons to over-reach their knowledge in order to “be right” or have the “final answer”.

Certainly such over-reaches can sometimes be correct. That doesn’t alter the fact that, until proven by some means, they were just so much hot air. No matter how arduous and clever any ridicule, if it is based on insufficient information, it adds nothing to our knowledge of the subject at hand. And accusations (rather than simply stating a possibility) of scamming or other unethical practice without proof amounts to bearing false witness.

Such an emotion packed subject as this certainly makes one eager to “know” one way or the other, but objectivity requires facing uncertainty sometimes. Tech creators/developers do not have to prove their devices to the masses during development, and so do not have to spend their time convincing members of this blog for instance, of their veracity.

In sum, I would say that it’s not important WHO is right, but only WHAT is right.

See for yourself: http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/75478/lockheed_martin_space_operations_successfully_deploys_nexgen_citys_public_safety/index.html

Reticle Carbon: Electrode Material for Ultracapacitors
Dr. Carl C. Nesbitt Reticle Inc. 334 State Street; Suite 204 Los Altos, California 94022
cnesbitt@mtu.edu Executive Summary: Reticle Inc. (a California-based company) has developed a unique electrode material (Reticle Carbon) which is ideally suited for electric double-layer (EDL) ultracapacitors. Reticle Carbon is simple to manufacture, yet has low electrical resistivities (0.04-0.130 -cm), demonstrated high surface areas (1,250-1,750 m2/g), and the highest reported specific capacitance (200-310 F/g). It is produced by consolidating granular activated carbon that has been selected for its properties. That is, only activated carbon is used to make Reticle Carbon—no binders, no fillers, no adhesives. The manufacturing process is single-stage, but flexible enough so that we can tailor the properties of the material for ultracapacitors. Most electrode materials are limited to thin layers or thin films by the manufacturing processes. Reticle Carbon is unique in being the only material that can be cut to any thickness to meet any capacitance needed. This paper emphasizes this difference and presents the wide range of properties with the underlying theory to store energy in the massive surface area of the material. A comparison of our preliminary capacitors with commercial capacitors is included.

SUMMARY
Reticle Carbon has unique properties that allow it to be an efficient electrode material in ultracapacitors. The material has surface areas in excess of 1,700 m2/g, which give the material a specific capacitance of 300 F/g. Ultracapacitors made with material with 1,240 m2/g have energy densities of 26 Wh/kg and power densities of 31 kW/kg at a 2-V potential. With modification and design optimization these levels will be exceeded in next generation Reticle ultracapacitors. The most significant contribution that Reticle Carbon provides is the flexibility of providing any thickness (hence any mass) of electrode to a capacitor. This simple distinction sets Reticle Carbon apart from other electrode materials which must be kept thin for efficiency or because of the restrictions to the steps to manufacture the material.