Comments on: More Future Volt Competition?: Lotus E-REVs and Solar-Powered Toyotas http://gm-volt.com/2009/01/03/more-future-volt-competition-lotus-e-revs-and-solar-powered-toyotas/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:26:48 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Amboseli Oliphant http://gm-volt.com/2009/01/03/more-future-volt-competition-lotus-e-revs-and-solar-powered-toyotas/#comment-121433 Amboseli Oliphant Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:16:42 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1452#comment-121433 Lets see. We build a quarter million Volts a year and some whacko sets off an EMP generator someplace in California. Volt electronics could get fried. Can you say 40 thousand dollar paperweight? Lets see. We build a quarter million Volts a year and some whacko sets off an EMP generator someplace in California.

Volt electronics could get fried. Can you say 40 thousand dollar paperweight?

]]> By: DaveP http://gm-volt.com/2009/01/03/more-future-volt-competition-lotus-e-revs-and-solar-powered-toyotas/#comment-88989 DaveP Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:23:44 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1452#comment-88989 I hope it's basically the Zap-X (Lotus APX body) with a range extender. I'd really love to have ~600hp and AWD (wheel motors) with a third row of jump seats. I'd heard that Lotus had actually built and demonstrated prototypes in Malaysia (where their owners are) so it might very well be possible although I'd never seen any evidence (like photos or video) on the web. And Lotus is kind of pricey, but it's not crazy expensive. Back in the dot-com boom, the Elise was in the mid 30's and there were tons of them around here because it was one of the cheaper, er, flamboyant cars you could get. These days they're in the upper 40's, though, so they've kind of moved up in price. I blame the Boxter for that. :) I hope it’s basically the Zap-X (Lotus APX body) with a range extender. I’d really love to have ~600hp and AWD (wheel motors) with a third row of jump seats. I’d heard that Lotus had actually built and demonstrated prototypes in Malaysia (where their owners are) so it might very well be possible although I’d never seen any evidence (like photos or video) on the web.
And Lotus is kind of pricey, but it’s not crazy expensive. Back in the dot-com boom, the Elise was in the mid 30’s and there were tons of them around here because it was one of the cheaper, er, flamboyant cars you could get. These days they’re in the upper 40’s, though, so they’ve kind of moved up in price. I blame the Boxter for that. :)

]]> By: charlie h http://gm-volt.com/2009/01/03/more-future-volt-competition-lotus-e-revs-and-solar-powered-toyotas/#comment-88978 charlie h Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:37:36 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1452#comment-88978 #11 (and subsequent notes), Arch, You WERE trolling, dropping your triumphant tidbit right out of the blue. And you troll poorly; that article is a half-truth. GLOBAL sea ice hasn't changed much (although it is clearly trending down). Antarctica, as has been pointed out MANY times, is fairly stable (possibly benefitting from increased precipitation). The problem rests in the Arctic Ocean, where loss of sea ice decreases the Earth's albedo, which leads to further warming. For the second year in a row, our sea ice extent at the end of the year is extremely low, compared to the average of the observed record. http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/index.html I notice Asher refers to the NSIDC but does not link to it. That would be easily done, wouldn't it? I'd guess he prefers you not get the full picture but instead wants you to rely on what he has cherry-picked for you. Some people, especially those politically motivated to deride legitimate scientific effort, can be counted on to do that. #11 (and subsequent notes), Arch, You WERE trolling, dropping your triumphant tidbit right out of the blue.

And you troll poorly; that article is a half-truth. GLOBAL sea ice hasn’t changed much (although it is clearly trending down). Antarctica, as has been pointed out MANY times, is fairly stable (possibly benefitting from increased precipitation). The problem rests in the Arctic Ocean, where loss of sea ice decreases the Earth’s albedo, which leads to further warming. For the second year in a row, our sea ice extent at the end of the year is extremely low, compared to the average of the observed record.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/index.html

I notice Asher refers to the NSIDC but does not link to it. That would be easily done, wouldn’t it? I’d guess he prefers you not get the full picture but instead wants you to rely on what he has cherry-picked for you. Some people, especially those politically motivated to deride legitimate scientific effort, can be counted on to do that.

]]> By: noel park http://gm-volt.com/2009/01/03/more-future-volt-competition-lotus-e-revs-and-solar-powered-toyotas/#comment-88976 noel park Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:28:16 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1452#comment-88976 #69 DaveK: Amen! #69 DaveK:

Amen!

]]> By: N Riley http://gm-volt.com/2009/01/03/more-future-volt-competition-lotus-e-revs-and-solar-powered-toyotas/#comment-88962 N Riley Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:37:38 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1452#comment-88962 With Lotus getting into the E-REV business it is another milestone towards electrifying our automobiles. Lotus will sell towards the high end like Tesla. The lower end will be served by GM, Ford and others. With Lotus getting into the E-REV business it is another milestone towards electrifying our automobiles. Lotus will sell towards the high end like Tesla. The lower end will be served by GM, Ford and others.

]]> By: k-dawg http://gm-volt.com/2009/01/03/more-future-volt-competition-lotus-e-revs-and-solar-powered-toyotas/#comment-88948 k-dawg Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:06:51 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1452#comment-88948 GM already built a solar powered car in 1998 called the Sunraycer. It won the race in Australia. GM already built a solar powered car in 1998 called the Sunraycer. It won the race in Australia.

]]> By: stas peterson http://gm-volt.com/2009/01/03/more-future-volt-competition-lotus-e-revs-and-solar-powered-toyotas/#comment-88874 stas peterson Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:17:06 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1452#comment-88874 David G #71 The reason that no one build these damn thermally polluting, and albedo-altering, producing genuine AGW 100 of times as powerful as GHG, is because they don't make the least bit of economic sense. Solar is inefficient, terribly inefficient. Would you want to buy power from an Utility that charges 50 cents per KWH when someone else charges you 5 cents per KWH? Are you ready to pay $1000 per month for your electric bill if you presently pay $100 per month? Only committed Gian religious Enviro-Crusaders, who don't and can't think rationally do. And can force or elect their own Utility commissions to build such economic pink elephants. And only at the margin, usually as "demonstration projects". Projects that once built, and the PR photos taken and distributed; commission politicians speeches and press conferences made; promptly are mothballed and dragged out for annual "photo shoots" for the covers of the Utilities financial statement as "Greenwash". In the vernacular, they Suck. And they will always Suck. Next question? David G #71

The reason that no one build these damn thermally polluting, and albedo-altering, producing genuine AGW 100 of times as powerful as GHG, is because they don’t make the least bit of economic sense.

Solar is inefficient, terribly inefficient. Would you want to buy power from an Utility that charges 50 cents per KWH when someone else charges you 5 cents per KWH? Are you ready to pay $1000 per month for your electric bill if you presently pay $100 per month?

Only committed Gian religious Enviro-Crusaders, who don’t and can’t think rationally do. And can force or elect their own Utility commissions to build such economic pink elephants. And only at the margin, usually as “demonstration projects”. Projects that once built, and the PR photos taken and distributed; commission politicians speeches and press conferences made; promptly are mothballed and dragged out for annual “photo shoots” for the covers of the Utilities financial statement as “Greenwash”.

In the vernacular, they Suck. And they will always Suck.

Next question?

]]> By: ThombDbhomb http://gm-volt.com/2009/01/03/more-future-volt-competition-lotus-e-revs-and-solar-powered-toyotas/#comment-88859 ThombDbhomb Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:13:59 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1452#comment-88859 #70 Dave G As I said in #49, solar cars exist. They have gone across continents at decent speeds. They may be specialized vehicles at present, but so was the Wright brothers flying machine at Kitty Hawk. You know how that took off. Don't be so quick to pooh pooh solar cars. #70 Dave G
As I said in #49, solar cars exist. They have gone across continents at decent speeds. They may be specialized vehicles at present, but so was the Wright brothers flying machine at Kitty Hawk. You know how that took off. Don’t be so quick to pooh pooh solar cars.

]]> By: ThombDbhomb http://gm-volt.com/2009/01/03/more-future-volt-competition-lotus-e-revs-and-solar-powered-toyotas/#comment-88858 ThombDbhomb Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:09:00 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1452#comment-88858 #64 Arch Thanks for making my point and admitting that you were trolling. PDNFTT #64 Arch

Thanks for making my point and admitting that you were trolling.

PDNFTT

]]> By: Rashiid Amul http://gm-volt.com/2009/01/03/more-future-volt-competition-lotus-e-revs-and-solar-powered-toyotas/#comment-88843 Rashiid Amul Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:58:17 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1452#comment-88843 I do believe in climate change. I have no idea what to believe for the reason why it is happening. I do believe in climate change.

I have no idea what to believe for the reason why it is happening.

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