Comments on: US Battery Companies Seek Government Funds to Establish US-Based Lithium-ion Production Capacity http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/28/us-battery-companies-seek-goverment-funds-to-establish-us-based-lithium-ion-production-capacity/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Fri, 25 May 2012 22:44:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Gerry http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/28/us-battery-companies-seek-goverment-funds-to-establish-us-based-lithium-ion-production-capacity/#comment-89538 Gerry Fri, 09 Jan 2009 06:15:13 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1445#comment-89538 This is a scheme by lobbyists and law firms to siphon money from the DOE. Look at the players - Townsend Advanced Energy is the largest shareholder in Kokam - a Korean battery manufacturer. Dontech Global is a single guy, consultant Joe Doninger. Silyte - no web site. There are a few materials players that are interested in anything battery related as long as there is no skin in the game. Also a couple lead acid suppliers and pack guys. Altair Nano is on their last legs. Bottom line is if you don't have technology that warrants Venture Capital investment, let's find some lawyers/lobbyists and swing for the fence. This is a scheme by lobbyists and law firms to siphon money from the DOE. Look at the players – Townsend Advanced Energy is the largest shareholder in Kokam – a Korean battery manufacturer. Dontech Global is a single guy, consultant Joe Doninger. Silyte – no web site. There are a few materials players that are interested in anything battery related as long as there is no skin in the game. Also a couple lead acid suppliers and pack guys. Altair Nano is on their last legs.

Bottom line is if you don’t have technology that warrants Venture Capital investment, let’s find some lawyers/lobbyists and swing for the fence.

]]> By: ElectRich http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/28/us-battery-companies-seek-goverment-funds-to-establish-us-based-lithium-ion-production-capacity/#comment-88408 ElectRich Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:00:59 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1445#comment-88408 President Obama needs to lift corporate tax and maybe even throw out the income tax all together and go to the fair tax. That would not only stimulate the economy but make all products and goods much cheaper to make in the good old USA. And give all Americans a big boost with tax free income and investment returns. The bailouts and loans are exactly the opposite of what needs to be done! Reduce taxes and spending in the government! President Obama needs to lift corporate tax and maybe even throw out the income tax all together and go to the fair tax. That would not only stimulate the economy but make all products and goods much cheaper to make in the good old USA. And give all Americans a big boost with tax free income and investment returns. The bailouts and loans are exactly the opposite of what needs to be done! Reduce taxes and spending in the government!

]]> By: PayUp http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/28/us-battery-companies-seek-goverment-funds-to-establish-us-based-lithium-ion-production-capacity/#comment-88218 PayUp Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:20:50 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1445#comment-88218 Yeah. Which is why Argonne should follow its mandate for basic research and NOT get involved in the politics of private enterprise. Where they get manipulated by the "LLC" game players. Yeah. Which is why Argonne should follow its mandate for basic research and NOT get involved in the politics of private enterprise. Where they get manipulated by the “LLC” game players.

]]> By: Cautious Fan http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/28/us-battery-companies-seek-goverment-funds-to-establish-us-based-lithium-ion-production-capacity/#comment-88187 Cautious Fan Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:28:36 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1445#comment-88187 #63 Jeffhre You have some good examples of where gov't sponsored research is necessary, specifically in areas of science with no practical value today like astronomy (we assume it'll have future value), or in technologies that are too risky or expensive for smaller companies to do and so the risk must be spread out, sort of like insurance policies. Note that Lithium-Ion tech is definitely not one of these. Private companies are racing do R&D already, and LION may soon be outdated by newer stuff. #63 Jeffhre

You have some good examples of where gov’t sponsored research is necessary, specifically in areas of science with no practical value today like astronomy (we assume it’ll have future value), or in technologies that are too risky or expensive for smaller companies to do and so the risk must be spread out, sort of like insurance policies.

Note that Lithium-Ion tech is definitely not one of these. Private companies are racing do R&D already, and LION may soon be outdated by newer stuff.

]]> By: Cautious Fan http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/28/us-battery-companies-seek-goverment-funds-to-establish-us-based-lithium-ion-production-capacity/#comment-88186 Cautious Fan Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:18:40 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1445#comment-88186 The japanese are going to build a $1.1 billion battery factory, and it sounds like they might do it with private funding. The nerve of some people. http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/12/29/japan_electric_car_battery_invest/ The japanese are going to build a $1.1 billion battery factory, and it sounds like they might do it with private funding. The nerve of some people.

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/12/29/japan_electric_car_battery_invest/

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