Comments on: EEStor is Granted a New Patent on the EESU Revealing Extensive Details http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/21/eestor-is-granted-a-new-patent-on-the-eesu-offering-extensive-detail-on-its-design-and-function/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:07:32 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: dennisgunn http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/21/eestor-is-granted-a-new-patent-on-the-eesu-offering-extensive-detail-on-its-design-and-function/#comment-122601 dennisgunn Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:35:37 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1436#comment-122601 This is not really true. I have obtained 9 patents 6 of which are international. It does take a lot of work but not all that much money if you do it yourself. This is not really true. I have obtained 9 patents 6 of which are international. It does take a lot of work but not all that much money if you do it yourself.

]]> By: Wordt het toch nog wat met die supercondensators? | hilpers http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/21/eestor-is-granted-a-new-patent-on-the-eesu-offering-extensive-detail-on-its-design-and-function/#comment-91159 Wordt het toch nog wat met die supercondensators? | hilpers Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:10:24 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1436#comment-91159 [...] het toch nog wat met die supercondensators? http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/21/eestor...-and-function/ "The EESU is composed of 31,353 of these components arranged in parallel. It is said to have [...] [...] het toch nog wat met die supercondensators? http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/21/eestor…-and-function/ "The EESU is composed of 31,353 of these components arranged in parallel. It is said to have [...]

]]> By: Exuma http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/21/eestor-is-granted-a-new-patent-on-the-eesu-offering-extensive-detail-on-its-design-and-function/#comment-89055 Exuma Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:24:56 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1436#comment-89055 Folks, let us assume that Zenn and Light Vehicles do not have the firepower to fully analyse the Eestor technology - do you really believe that Eestor can dupe Lockheed Martin and the guys at Kleiner Perkins, each of whom have enormous technical expertise backing them up? Bear in mind that Lockheed has committed itself to the extent of filing a patent application for military usage - these guys are not fools. I encourage the sceptics to continue to wallow in doubt and reap the attendant rewards. Folks, let us assume that Zenn and Light Vehicles do not have the firepower to fully analyse the Eestor technology – do you really believe that Eestor can dupe Lockheed Martin and the guys at Kleiner Perkins, each of whom have enormous technical expertise backing them up?

Bear in mind that Lockheed has committed itself to the extent of filing a patent application for military usage – these guys are not fools.

I encourage the sceptics to continue to wallow in doubt and reap the attendant rewards.

]]> By: hey steve http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/21/eestor-is-granted-a-new-patent-on-the-eesu-offering-extensive-detail-on-its-design-and-function/#comment-89034 hey steve Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:52:44 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1436#comment-89034 steve, are you the same steve from b's blog: http://bariumtitanate.blogspot.com? steve,

are you the same steve from b’s blog: http://bariumtitanate.blogspot.com?

]]> By: skierpage http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/21/eestor-is-granted-a-new-patent-on-the-eesu-offering-extensive-detail-on-its-design-and-function/#comment-88213 skierpage Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:01:45 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1436#comment-88213 #106 jharlan "Conventional wisdom is nearly always proven to be wrong. " What a ridiculous statement. It happens quite rarely. #106 jharlan
“Conventional wisdom is nearly always proven to be wrong. ”

What a ridiculous statement. It happens quite rarely.

]]> By: Dave Mc http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/21/eestor-is-granted-a-new-patent-on-the-eesu-offering-extensive-detail-on-its-design-and-function/#comment-88097 Dave Mc Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:10:54 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1436#comment-88097 Can you say electroshock therapy. I am guessing EEStor is having two problems. First, they are generating catastrophic arcing that kills the capacitor. My next guess is that if by some chance they do charge this beast up it generates so much mechanical stress that it cracks their ferrite spacer layer. I also wonder about arc events at the edges of the capacitor where the fringing of the field goes wacko. Let's do a simple calculation. The dielectric constant of their material is supposed to be something like 10,000. Given they have provided C=32 and V=3200, I can determine what the charge must be on their device. I don't know how big the caps are, but will assume they are 10cm x 10cm. The force of the plates on each other are 2.4x10^18 Newtons. The force of gravity on a 55kg human is only 550 Newtons. Their cap must be under huge pressure and the stresses are insane. If anything, I think they have developed a electromechanical bomb. Note, the smaller the footprint of their cap, the larger the force between the plates and the higher the pressure (force/area). However, my guess is they get catastrophic arcing long before the thing explodes. Can you say electroshock therapy. I am guessing EEStor is having two problems. First, they are generating catastrophic arcing that kills the capacitor. My next guess is that if by some chance they do charge this beast up it generates so much mechanical stress that it cracks their ferrite spacer layer. I also wonder about arc events at the edges of the capacitor where the fringing of the field goes wacko.

Let’s do a simple calculation. The dielectric constant of their material is supposed to be something like 10,000. Given they have provided C=32 and V=3200, I can determine what the charge must be on their device. I don’t know how big the caps are, but will assume they are 10cm x 10cm. The force of the plates on each other are 2.4×10^18 Newtons. The force of gravity on a 55kg human is only 550 Newtons. Their cap must be under huge pressure and the stresses are insane. If anything, I think they have developed a electromechanical bomb.

Note, the smaller the footprint of their cap, the larger the force between the plates and the higher the pressure (force/area). However, my guess is they get catastrophic arcing long before the thing explodes.

]]> By: tomatolord http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/21/eestor-is-granted-a-new-patent-on-the-eesu-offering-extensive-detail-on-its-design-and-function/#comment-88023 tomatolord Mon, 29 Dec 2008 03:12:58 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1436#comment-88023 #97 patent man... i know a few people who applied for patents that did not get them. I know other companies that did NOT apply for patents on processes or systems becuase they did NOT want others to know about them. I know a 100 million dolla company that wont patent their software to keep it secret. vc's will usually only invest if there is a patentable process or idea they can capitolize. owners of the patent do not want vc's money they want other investors that have a lower voting share. to be a futurist you need to not take today into the future, the future is just that ..things you could not imagine could be real (xbox live, iphones) 5 years ago.. tomatolord #97 patent man…

i know a few people who applied for patents that did not get them.

I know other companies that did NOT apply for patents on processes or systems becuase they did NOT want others to know about them. I know a 100 million dolla company that wont patent their software to keep it secret.

vc’s will usually only invest if there is a patentable process or idea they can capitolize.

owners of the patent do not want vc’s money they want other investors that have a lower voting share.

to be a futurist you need to not take today into the future, the future is just that ..things you could not imagine could be real (xbox live, iphones) 5 years ago..

tomatolord

]]> By: Max Ketcham http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/21/eestor-is-granted-a-new-patent-on-the-eesu-offering-extensive-detail-on-its-design-and-function/#comment-87859 Max Ketcham Sat, 27 Dec 2008 05:24:53 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1436#comment-87859 I jave a major concern with this patent being "new art" the capacitor may be new, but th "array" is an old tried and true method of connecting capacitors for energy storage. To me it sounds and looks like they are trying to patent the array more than the capacitors.. I'm afraid that if they are able to do this then they will try to make all maufactures od ac and dc drives, power supplies and audio power equipment pay them to do what they have been doing for 100 years for free. Anyone else see this? or am I just being paranoid? I jave a major concern with this patent being “new art” the capacitor may be new, but th “array” is an old tried and true method of connecting capacitors for energy storage. To me it sounds and looks like they are trying to patent the array more than the capacitors.. I’m afraid that if they are able to do this then they will try to make all maufactures od ac and dc drives, power supplies and audio power equipment pay them to do what they have been doing for 100 years for free. Anyone else see this? or am I just being paranoid?

]]> By: Steve http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/21/eestor-is-granted-a-new-patent-on-the-eesu-offering-extensive-detail-on-its-design-and-function/#comment-87708 Steve Thu, 25 Dec 2008 00:25:41 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1436#comment-87708 http://gas2.org/2008/12/23/interview-honda-chie... "More than ten years ago, Honda's Integrated Motor Assist (IMA) power train was first introduced with the J-VX concept and was originally developed with an ultracapacitor instead of NiMH batteries." http://gas2.org/2008/12/23/interview-honda-chie...

“More than ten years ago, Honda’s Integrated Motor Assist (IMA) power train was first introduced with the J-VX concept and was originally developed with an ultracapacitor instead of NiMH batteries.”

]]> By: jharlan http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/21/eestor-is-granted-a-new-patent-on-the-eesu-offering-extensive-detail-on-its-design-and-function/#comment-87703 jharlan Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:55:00 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1436#comment-87703 This has generated a lot of interest. Conventional wisdom says it can't be done. Conventional wisdom is nearly always proven to be wrong. I think the engineering problems can be solved, and in a few years these devices will be used in a large number of devices. Of course it remains to be seen if EESTOR are the guys that can pull it off. My son tells me Honda has an off road motorcycle out now that uses a capacitor instead of a battery for it's electric starter. Watch out for Honda. They have the resources, and their strategic planning is awesome! This has generated a lot of interest. Conventional wisdom says it can’t be done. Conventional wisdom is nearly always proven to be wrong. I think the engineering problems can be solved, and in a few years these devices will be used in a large number of devices. Of course it remains to be seen if EESTOR are the guys that can pull it off. My son tells me Honda has an off road motorcycle out now that uses a capacitor instead of a battery for it’s electric starter. Watch out for Honda. They have the resources, and their strategic planning is awesome!

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