Comments on: Current Progress on GM Getting Emergency Government Loans

By: Jess C. in Michigan

Jess C. in Michigan — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:26:24 +0000

Ask yourself “Are you waging war on old people?”

A re-print from MSNBC website. Regarding Northern and Southern Auto Workers.

Not much difference in pay
For all the divisions between the two camps, there isn’t much difference in their pay. The GM workers average about $28 an hour, though new workers receive far less. The Nissan workers make about $25 an hour, the company said.

“The overall compensation for a worker is not that different whether it’s a foreign or domestic automaker in the U.S. — they’re all in the same ballpark,” said Kristin Dziczek, assistant director of research at the Center for Automotive Research at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor. “They have to be. Good wages and benefits avoid unionization.”

The biggest difference in the labor costs is that the foreign automakers don’t have to pay for legions of retirees — their workers are younger and haven’t received benefits that are as generous, Dziczek said.

By: N Riley

N Riley — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:23:07 +0000

#70 GM Volt Fan

Good article. Thanks for the link.

By: N Riley

N Riley — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:07:57 +0000

#76 Zach says,
Bush is now considering whether the US is willing to spend some of the 700B on additional war costs. What do you guys think?
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Now, where did you get that information from? I watch the news a lot and have not heard of this. Or is this just some more hate Bush talk? Say anything bad about Bush you want to and it will be believed and passed around like gospel. Bush has done plenty wrong, but he did not cause the financial crisis we find ourselves in. Granted he could have done more, but he didn’t. Congress was warned dozens of times by members of the administration and by some members of congress, but they would not listen. They wanted to keep forcing bad loans on the banks so they could drive up housing ownership among the poor. A 12 year old could tell that would not work for very long.

By: Rashiid Amul

Rashiid Amul — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:10:42 +0000

#70 GM Volt Fan,

Thanks for the article. It was very interesting to read.

By: Dave K. =D~

Dave K. =D~ — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:52:18 +0000

Oil steady near $46 as OPEC prepares output cut

Monday December 15, 2008, 3:36 am EST

SINGAPORE (AP) — Oil prices were steady near $46 a barrel Monday in Asia as investors anticipated OPEC will announce a large production cut at its meeting this week.

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By: Rashiid Amul

Rashiid Amul — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:40:27 +0000

#76 Zach says,
Bush is now considering whether the US is willing to spend some of the 700B on additional war costs. What do you guys think?
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Easier to piss away 700B on the war than it is to invest 25B-75B in the Domestic Auto Industry so we don’t have to fight this kind of war.
Really stupid, huh.

By: Rashiid Amul

Rashiid Amul — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:30:01 +0000

DonC # 63

Well said. It might actually help Michigan to do just that.
At least they would be further along in the process.

By: Dave K. =D~

Dave K. =D~ — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:20:37 +0000

Hi Zach #76,

“… spend some of the 700B on additional war costs.”
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It’s a twisted way to bail out GM, but it would mean the sale of several thousand Humvees.

http://garfwod.250free.com/hummer.mpeg

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By: Zach

Zach — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:20:01 +0000

Bush is now considering whether the US is willing to spend some of the 700B on additional war costs. What do you guys think? lol.

By: Gary

Gary — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:37:21 +0000

Some “spam”:

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081215/METRO/812150335/1148/AUTO01

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081215/OPINION03/812150301/1148/AUTO01