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		<title>By: George K</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/04/summary-of-thursdays-senate-hearing/#comment-84599</link>
		<dc:creator>George K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#38 DonC
&quot;Detroit is actually asking for $61B — the $25B already in the appropriation for the retooling loans and the additional $36 — but you may miss this if you focus on the $36B figure.&quot;

Yes, I thought the new figure WAS $36B.  I kept hearing that on C-Span, though I didn&#039;t hear the whole thing.

Hopefully, then, that is the number it would take to be able to sustain themselves with N. American sales of say 8M.  They can&#039;t keep misoverestimating the market year after year!

 =D~~~~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#38 DonC<br />
&#8220;Detroit is actually asking for $61B — the $25B already in the appropriation for the retooling loans and the additional $36 — but you may miss this if you focus on the $36B figure.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, I thought the new figure WAS $36B.  I kept hearing that on C-Span, though I didn&#8217;t hear the whole thing.</p>
<p>Hopefully, then, that is the number it would take to be able to sustain themselves with N. American sales of say 8M.  They can&#8217;t keep misoverestimating the market year after year!</p>
<p> =D~~~~</p>
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		<title>By: George K</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/04/summary-of-thursdays-senate-hearing/#comment-84598</link>
		<dc:creator>George K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic,

Just saw Bob Lutz on Larry King Live.  Just caught the end with Lutz summarizing GM&#039;s great strides with both high quality, and high fuel efficient cars, especially the Volt.  

Larry&#039;s comment was &quot;Ge Bob.  You don&#039;t look 77 years old.&quot;  Lutz said, &quot;Thanks Larry. You don&#039;t look 88!&quot;  (Larry is 75)

I say, lets put Lutz in charge of GM.

=D~~~~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic,</p>
<p>Just saw Bob Lutz on Larry King Live.  Just caught the end with Lutz summarizing GM&#8217;s great strides with both high quality, and high fuel efficient cars, especially the Volt.  </p>
<p>Larry&#8217;s comment was &#8220;Ge Bob.  You don&#8217;t look 77 years old.&#8221;  Lutz said, &#8220;Thanks Larry. You don&#8217;t look 88!&#8221;  (Larry is 75)</p>
<p>I say, lets put Lutz in charge of GM.</p>
<p>=D~~~~</p>
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		<title>By: electriciti</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/04/summary-of-thursdays-senate-hearing/#comment-84565</link>
		<dc:creator>electriciti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CaptJackSparrow #50

Thank you for your very interesting insight.
I specially like the part about the ultra capacitor.
Also, I like your idea about the lith battery being used for long range trips, while the ultra caps can charge everytime the vehicle would hit the electromagnetic fields.  It would suck a lot of power, instantly charging and providing additional power to the lith batteries.

Also, I believe that the electromagnetic field can be utilized, by having the car lower an induction coil close to the groud everytime the vehicle would hit an electromagnetic field.  This smaller distance could make the system more effecient.  The coil could retract once the vehicle passes the magnetic field...

What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CaptJackSparrow #50</p>
<p>Thank you for your very interesting insight.<br />
I specially like the part about the ultra capacitor.<br />
Also, I like your idea about the lith battery being used for long range trips, while the ultra caps can charge everytime the vehicle would hit the electromagnetic fields.  It would suck a lot of power, instantly charging and providing additional power to the lith batteries.</p>
<p>Also, I believe that the electromagnetic field can be utilized, by having the car lower an induction coil close to the groud everytime the vehicle would hit an electromagnetic field.  This smaller distance could make the system more effecient.  The coil could retract once the vehicle passes the magnetic field&#8230;</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Len</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/04/summary-of-thursdays-senate-hearing/#comment-84535</link>
		<dc:creator>Len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And some are so depressed they have just quit.</description>
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		<title>By: RB</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/04/summary-of-thursdays-senate-hearing/#comment-84478</link>
		<dc:creator>RB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#76 statik said &quot;As to the curiousity of the unemployment rate only going to 6.7% from 6.5%, when it should be all rights be over 7%…I read over the report again and figured it out.
637,000 people dropped out of the labor force completely. (That means they are not working…and looking for work).&quot;
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Thank you for the further explanation.

It reflects the fact that in the US there are a lot of people who are interested in working if-as-when there is a good opportunity, but who come in and go out of the labor force as they see an opportunity.  Some are individuals in distress, but others are people whose work interest is conditional, i.e., &quot;..when I can get a reasonable job in my home town, but I&#039;m not interested in commuting or moving.&quot;  I know lots of people who are this way (and of course lots of others who really have to have a job).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#76 statik said &#8220;As to the curiousity of the unemployment rate only going to 6.7% from 6.5%, when it should be all rights be over 7%…I read over the report again and figured it out.<br />
637,000 people dropped out of the labor force completely. (That means they are not working…and looking for work).&#8221;<br />
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<p>Thank you for the further explanation.</p>
<p>It reflects the fact that in the US there are a lot of people who are interested in working if-as-when there is a good opportunity, but who come in and go out of the labor force as they see an opportunity.  Some are individuals in distress, but others are people whose work interest is conditional, i.e., &#8220;..when I can get a reasonable job in my home town, but I&#8217;m not interested in commuting or moving.&#8221;  I know lots of people who are this way (and of course lots of others who really have to have a job).</p>
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		<title>By: RB</title>
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		<dc:creator>RB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#76 statik -- on unemployment rates.
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While hardly perfect or complete, there are some good parts about the present tracking system that one should keep in mind

1) The Labor department does follow its own system  without bias, so the data is consistent over time, whatever it means

2) The results are independent of other results as they include new information involving numbers of people actually looking for work.  In that regard, the number gives new information rather than simply reflecting jobs gained or loss.

3) The values reported come from interviewers talking to individuals, not somebody sending email or tabulating numbers from the internet.  Often the same interviewer talks to the same individuals over periods of years (so long as they live at the same address). As such, the results are &quot;primary&quot; data, not derivatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#76 statik &#8212; on unemployment rates.<br />
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<p>While hardly perfect or complete, there are some good parts about the present tracking system that one should keep in mind</p>
<p>1) The Labor department does follow its own system  without bias, so the data is consistent over time, whatever it means</p>
<p>2) The results are independent of other results as they include new information involving numbers of people actually looking for work.  In that regard, the number gives new information rather than simply reflecting jobs gained or loss.</p>
<p>3) The values reported come from interviewers talking to individuals, not somebody sending email or tabulating numbers from the internet.  Often the same interviewer talks to the same individuals over periods of years (so long as they live at the same address). As such, the results are &#8220;primary&#8221; data, not derivatives.</p>
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		<title>By: Len</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Democrats can&#039;t pass it. They don&#039;t have the votes. It is Bush or no one.</description>
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		<title>By: statik</title>
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		<dc:creator>statik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to the curiousity of the unemployment rate only going to 6.7% from 6.5%, when it should be all rights be over 7%...I read over the report again and figured it out.

637,000 people dropped out of the labor force completely.  (That means they are not working...and looking for work).

According to the report the &#039;share&#039; of people working in the US is the lowest since they started tracking it...which was sometime in the 40s.

/still hate this system of tracking...it is practically useless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to the curiousity of the unemployment rate only going to 6.7% from 6.5%, when it should be all rights be over 7%&#8230;I read over the report again and figured it out.</p>
<p>637,000 people dropped out of the labor force completely.  (That means they are not working&#8230;and looking for work).</p>
<p>According to the report the &#8217;share&#8217; of people working in the US is the lowest since they started tracking it&#8230;which was sometime in the 40s.</p>
<p>/still hate this system of tracking&#8230;it is practically useless</p>
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		<title>By: KentT</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/04/summary-of-thursdays-senate-hearing/#comment-84459</link>
		<dc:creator>KentT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew you guys would show up.  All the GM bashing and all the crazy talk of letting GM fail has given way to all of you who know something about how our economy works, what it takes to manufacture a car and how Washington is full of posturing, blowhards (can you believe Corker?  How could anyone vote for such an as_h_le!  Unbelievable!  He had his points but the way he said them...).

Thank you. 

Let the Democrats pass the INVESTMENT act (they will be loans, not handouts like AIG and the banks got) to save the US auto industry and let the Bush administration sink into the ash heap of history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew you guys would show up.  All the GM bashing and all the crazy talk of letting GM fail has given way to all of you who know something about how our economy works, what it takes to manufacture a car and how Washington is full of posturing, blowhards (can you believe Corker?  How could anyone vote for such an as_h_le!  Unbelievable!  He had his points but the way he said them&#8230;).</p>
<p>Thank you. </p>
<p>Let the Democrats pass the INVESTMENT act (they will be loans, not handouts like AIG and the banks got) to save the US auto industry and let the Bush administration sink into the ash heap of history.</p>
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		<title>By: N Riley</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/12/04/summary-of-thursdays-senate-hearing/#comment-84448</link>
		<dc:creator>N Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#24  Curtis Wyatt

&quot;The 4 people who signed that letter to President Bush are more at fault for our economy problems now than President Bush himself. Why should we trust them now?&quot;

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Well stated.  George Bush is not as dumb as they think.  The democrats want him to approve the money from TARP/EESA so the blame can be placed on him when people complain about &quot;the taxpayers bailing-out Detroit&quot;.  If congress has to vote on and approve a &quot;bridge loan&quot;, congress will be the responsible party.  Plus they are not sure of two things.  One, they don&#039;t think enough republicans will vote with them to provide &quot;cover&quot; and two, they are not sure Bush would sign the bill.  Not signing the bill would place Bush in the spotlight supporting the majority of taxpayers who seem to be saying, rightly or wrongly, that we should not bail-out anyone.  They don&#039;t want that kind of PR going into a new congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24  Curtis Wyatt</p>
<p>&#8220;The 4 people who signed that letter to President Bush are more at fault for our economy problems now than President Bush himself. Why should we trust them now?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Well stated.  George Bush is not as dumb as they think.  The democrats want him to approve the money from TARP/EESA so the blame can be placed on him when people complain about &#8220;the taxpayers bailing-out Detroit&#8221;.  If congress has to vote on and approve a &#8220;bridge loan&#8221;, congress will be the responsible party.  Plus they are not sure of two things.  One, they don&#8217;t think enough republicans will vote with them to provide &#8220;cover&#8221; and two, they are not sure Bush would sign the bill.  Not signing the bill would place Bush in the spotlight supporting the majority of taxpayers who seem to be saying, rightly or wrongly, that we should not bail-out anyone.  They don&#8217;t want that kind of PR going into a new congress.</p>
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