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	<title>Comments on: Flextreme Concept Wins Prestigious Design Award, Still Not Production Intent</title>
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		<title>By: Barnabas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barnabas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic post! marvelous blog</description>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me get this straight…

GM is really controlled by the Government (And is now known Government Motors) And they still have the over paid union sucking them dry!

I would never buy another vehicle from Chrysler or GM

And one other thing……………That guy, the CEO on TV, He looks more like a used car salesman then a CEO!

Forget about Government motors and by from a real Car company….FORD

CJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this straight…</p>
<p>GM is really controlled by the Government (And is now known Government Motors) And they still have the over paid union sucking them dry!</p>
<p>I would never buy another vehicle from Chrysler or GM</p>
<p>And one other thing……………That guy, the CEO on TV, He looks more like a used car salesman then a CEO!</p>
<p>Forget about Government motors and by from a real Car company….FORD</p>
<p>CJ</p>
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		<title>By: stas peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>stas peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PNGV was cancelled because the politicians listened to their a$$hole suckup buddies like Amory Lovins.  He of the fame for starving at least 35 million Chinese to death, with his asinine backyard blast furnaces ideas, that Chairman Mao unfortunately, actually believed in and adopted.

Politically connected, he Demanded and Got that the PNGV auto bodies be built out of unrecyclable Billion dollar B2 bomber materials instead of recyclable steel, to save a few pounds or weight.

It made the the PNGV cost a $3/4 of a million per, if ever they were put into production.

The money went instead to create the US Automotive Battery Consortium. USABC,  which let the auto makers and the battery makers collaborate to develop Lithium-Ion batteries for auto applications.  

Where would we be if the were no Lithium Ion Batteries?  Still bitching about the death of the  Lead Acid EV1; it  being a convenient liberal conspiracy theory?

Tell me quick what is bringing the electric auto to reality faster, Li-Ion batteries or B2 bomber composite material bodies? 

The PNGV was a car designed by a government committee. and just about as build-able and realistic. As realistic as $10,000. toilet seats...

I see that there is another idiot who actually believes that the CAFE rules have EVER been reduced, in any way. Its another convenient propaganda liberal conspiracy fantasy too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PNGV was cancelled because the politicians listened to their a$$hole suckup buddies like Amory Lovins.  He of the fame for starving at least 35 million Chinese to death, with his asinine backyard blast furnaces ideas, that Chairman Mao unfortunately, actually believed in and adopted.</p>
<p>Politically connected, he Demanded and Got that the PNGV auto bodies be built out of unrecyclable Billion dollar B2 bomber materials instead of recyclable steel, to save a few pounds or weight.</p>
<p>It made the the PNGV cost a $3/4 of a million per, if ever they were put into production.</p>
<p>The money went instead to create the US Automotive Battery Consortium. USABC,  which let the auto makers and the battery makers collaborate to develop Lithium-Ion batteries for auto applications.  </p>
<p>Where would we be if the were no Lithium Ion Batteries?  Still bitching about the death of the  Lead Acid EV1; it  being a convenient liberal conspiracy theory?</p>
<p>Tell me quick what is bringing the electric auto to reality faster, Li-Ion batteries or B2 bomber composite material bodies? </p>
<p>The PNGV was a car designed by a government committee. and just about as build-able and realistic. As realistic as $10,000. toilet seats&#8230;</p>
<p>I see that there is another idiot who actually believes that the CAFE rules have EVER been reduced, in any way. Its another convenient propaganda liberal conspiracy fantasy too.</p>
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		<title>By: abc</title>
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		<dc:creator>abc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the new Volt design is ugly... why they didn&#039;t use the concept.. this could be the reason i will buy something else</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the new Volt design is ugly&#8230; why they didn&#8217;t use the concept.. this could be the reason i will buy something else</p>
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		<title>By: Dave G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#67 Dave K. Says: &quot;Initial price will be more like $40,000 ($32,500 after credit).&quot;
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According to GM&#039;s CEO, the Volt will initially cost &quot;mid-to-high 30s&quot;, or around $30,000 after the tax credit.

Bob Lutz has said the thing that drove up the price the most was the assumption that every battery will have to be replaced under waranty, meaning 2 batteries for every car sold.  

But Lutz has said more recently the batteries are performing better than expected in the longevity and durability tests, so the cost may come down soon.

In addition, Lutz said the the model 2012 Volt will have many cost improvements.  The 2012 model is the next model year after the initial 2011 Volt that will be available in November of 2010.

So all signs point to lower prices fairly soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#67 Dave K. Says: &#8220;Initial price will be more like $40,000 ($32,500 after credit).&#8221;<br />
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According to GM&#8217;s CEO, the Volt will initially cost &#8220;mid-to-high 30s&#8221;, or around $30,000 after the tax credit.</p>
<p>Bob Lutz has said the thing that drove up the price the most was the assumption that every battery will have to be replaced under waranty, meaning 2 batteries for every car sold.  </p>
<p>But Lutz has said more recently the batteries are performing better than expected in the longevity and durability tests, so the cost may come down soon.</p>
<p>In addition, Lutz said the the model 2012 Volt will have many cost improvements.  The 2012 model is the next model year after the initial 2011 Volt that will be available in November of 2010.</p>
<p>So all signs point to lower prices fairly soon.</p>
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