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	<title>Comments on: Detroit 3 CEOs Chastised by Congress:  Loan Hopes Dim as Senate Cancels Vote</title>
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		<title>By: THOM</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/19/detroit-3-ceos-chastised-by-congress-loan-hopes-dim/#comment-83915</link>
		<dc:creator>THOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if the govt is going to waste money, give some to tesla.  

THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A PRODUCT THEY ARE SHIPPING.   

The contradictions constantly on this website have convinced me the so called &quot;volt&quot; is more of a Public Relations stunt.   Unfortunatly, most people didnt beleive in it enough to invest money into GM STOCK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if the govt is going to waste money, give some to tesla.  </p>
<p>THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A PRODUCT THEY ARE SHIPPING.   </p>
<p>The contradictions constantly on this website have convinced me the so called &#8220;volt&#8221; is more of a Public Relations stunt.   Unfortunatly, most people didnt beleive in it enough to invest money into GM STOCK</p>
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		<title>By: Skruff</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/19/detroit-3-ceos-chastised-by-congress-loan-hopes-dim/#comment-82441</link>
		<dc:creator>Skruff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who ever turned Detroit pig iron into a &quot;hot rod&quot; knows that the &quot;Big three&quot; made garbage cars for years.  At least back before the Seventies some of then had looks.

The safety issues they ignored until they were made to comply with standards were cheap and simple, but GM, ford, and Chrysler ignored the safety of their customers 

The gas mileage of cars in the 40&#039;s was far better than the gas milage of the same make cars in the  the early Seventies. 

Better cars like Packard, Tucker, and Kaiser were allowed to fail and die, in favor of GM where they were attempting to corner the market. 

The Government turned a blind eye while GM and HArvey Firestone attempted to dismantle the mass transit systems they saw as a threat to their businessses

Give the 25 Billion to communities around the country&#039;s largest cities and demand they build mass transit systems.

Give people a choice (the benefit of living in a &quot;free&quot; country?) and I&#039;ll just bet the people around Los Angeles would rather take a high-speen train to work, rather then sit in a traffic jam for three hours (Ditto Westchester Fairfield, and Rockland County residents.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who ever turned Detroit pig iron into a &#8220;hot rod&#8221; knows that the &#8220;Big three&#8221; made garbage cars for years.  At least back before the Seventies some of then had looks.</p>
<p>The safety issues they ignored until they were made to comply with standards were cheap and simple, but GM, ford, and Chrysler ignored the safety of their customers </p>
<p>The gas mileage of cars in the 40&#8217;s was far better than the gas milage of the same make cars in the  the early Seventies. </p>
<p>Better cars like Packard, Tucker, and Kaiser were allowed to fail and die, in favor of GM where they were attempting to corner the market. </p>
<p>The Government turned a blind eye while GM and HArvey Firestone attempted to dismantle the mass transit systems they saw as a threat to their businessses</p>
<p>Give the 25 Billion to communities around the country&#8217;s largest cities and demand they build mass transit systems.</p>
<p>Give people a choice (the benefit of living in a &#8220;free&#8221; country?) and I&#8217;ll just bet the people around Los Angeles would rather take a high-speen train to work, rather then sit in a traffic jam for three hours (Ditto Westchester Fairfield, and Rockland County residents.)</p>
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		<title>By: Fahrvergnugen Fanboy</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/19/detroit-3-ceos-chastised-by-congress-loan-hopes-dim/#comment-81769</link>
		<dc:creator>Fahrvergnugen Fanboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine if Wagoner had been able to say: &quot;I drove here myself from Detroit in a Chevy Cobalt XFE.  I got [around 40?] miles per gallon.  I believe in our product and I use our product.&quot;  How would the senators have reacted?  How would the rank-and-file at the Cobalt plant have reacted? 

But no, he had to take the company jet and offer to *halve* his multi-million-dollar salary.  Sad.

It&#039;s so much like having a family member with a substance-abuse problem who asks you for twenty-five hundred so he can get clean &quot;This time for real!  I swear!&quot;  Your heart says one thing; your head has doubts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine if Wagoner had been able to say: &#8220;I drove here myself from Detroit in a Chevy Cobalt XFE.  I got [around 40?] miles per gallon.  I believe in our product and I use our product.&#8221;  How would the senators have reacted?  How would the rank-and-file at the Cobalt plant have reacted? </p>
<p>But no, he had to take the company jet and offer to *halve* his multi-million-dollar salary.  Sad.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so much like having a family member with a substance-abuse problem who asks you for twenty-five hundred so he can get clean &#8220;This time for real!  I swear!&#8221;  Your heart says one thing; your head has doubts.</p>
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		<title>By: statik</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/19/detroit-3-ceos-chastised-by-congress-loan-hopes-dim/#comment-81758</link>
		<dc:creator>statik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#103 Joe

Is there some deeper meaning to the “Detroit 2.8″ besides one isn’t whole. Where does this come from?
—
The 2.8 represents 20% of Chrysler LLC being owned by Daimler AG.
It’s stupid and nobody else actually refers to them as that. Just call them the Big 3.
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I guess that is a shot at me, I can handle it though. I love calling them the &#039;big 2.8&#039;...I do it as often and as much as I can, heeh. 

I refuse to stop!  
I couldn&#039;t stop it even if I tried...it is in my blood...it is too fabulous to not say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#103 Joe</p>
<p>Is there some deeper meaning to the “Detroit 2.8″ besides one isn’t whole. Where does this come from?<br />
—<br />
The 2.8 represents 20% of Chrysler LLC being owned by Daimler AG.<br />
It’s stupid and nobody else actually refers to them as that. Just call them the Big 3.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
I guess that is a shot at me, I can handle it though. I love calling them the &#8216;big 2.8&#8242;&#8230;I do it as often and as much as I can, heeh. </p>
<p>I refuse to stop!<br />
I couldn&#8217;t stop it even if I tried&#8230;it is in my blood&#8230;it is too fabulous to not say.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/19/detroit-3-ceos-chastised-by-congress-loan-hopes-dim/#comment-81752</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there some deeper meaning to the “Detroit 2.8″ besides one isn’t whole. Where does this come from?
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The 2.8 represents 20% of Chrysler LLC being owned by Daimler AG.
It&#039;s stupid and nobody else actually refers to them as that. Just call them the Big 3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there some deeper meaning to the “Detroit 2.8″ besides one isn’t whole. Where does this come from?<br />
&#8212;<br />
The 2.8 represents 20% of Chrysler LLC being owned by Daimler AG.<br />
It&#8217;s stupid and nobody else actually refers to them as that. Just call them the Big 3.</p>
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		<title>By: Casadore</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/19/detroit-3-ceos-chastised-by-congress-loan-hopes-dim/#comment-81742</link>
		<dc:creator>Casadore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put Your Money In Horses. To bad we can&#039;t feed them gasoline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put Your Money In Horses. To bad we can&#8217;t feed them gasoline.</p>
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		<title>By: statik</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/19/detroit-3-ceos-chastised-by-congress-loan-hopes-dim/#comment-81735</link>
		<dc:creator>statik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#40 Dave K

BTW: I am sticking with my prior prediction of S+P 790 being the bottom. And I am continuing to invest in recycling and clean coal technology. More EV and E-REV vehicles will mean more electrical power demand which will support clean coal use. What do you think statik?
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S&amp;P 500 INDEX. Thursday, November 20th, 2008 10:15am
777.97  -28.61</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#40 Dave K</p>
<p>BTW: I am sticking with my prior prediction of S+P 790 being the bottom. And I am continuing to invest in recycling and clean coal technology. More EV and E-REV vehicles will mean more electrical power demand which will support clean coal use. What do you think statik?<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>S&amp;P 500 INDEX. Thursday, November 20th, 2008 10:15am<br />
777.97  -28.61</p>
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		<title>By: N Riley</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/19/detroit-3-ceos-chastised-by-congress-loan-hopes-dim/#comment-81733</link>
		<dc:creator>N Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just think of the cost of the planes that Pelosi and Reid get to use to fly anywhere around the world in at taxpayer expense.  These are not small executive jets, but very large airliner size planes with a large staff to support them.  Plus, many department heads in the administration get the same type of treatment.  It is stupid in today&#039;s environment.  But you better believe that while most of us will be suffering through a recession or maybe a depression, the members of congress and the administration will continue to live high on the taxpayers back.  We need change, but you will not see any from politicians.  Newly elected or those that have been around 40 years.  They are all the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just think of the cost of the planes that Pelosi and Reid get to use to fly anywhere around the world in at taxpayer expense.  These are not small executive jets, but very large airliner size planes with a large staff to support them.  Plus, many department heads in the administration get the same type of treatment.  It is stupid in today&#8217;s environment.  But you better believe that while most of us will be suffering through a recession or maybe a depression, the members of congress and the administration will continue to live high on the taxpayers back.  We need change, but you will not see any from politicians.  Newly elected or those that have been around 40 years.  They are all the same.</p>
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		<title>By: N Riley</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/19/detroit-3-ceos-chastised-by-congress-loan-hopes-dim/#comment-81731</link>
		<dc:creator>N Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am wondering if any of the millionaires in congress would be willing to give up their paychecks for $1.00 in salary to help our country&#039;s debt.  Also, those millionaires and the other congressmen if they would be willing to give up all of their perks of office.  We spend hundreds of millions on congressional perks alone.  That is not counting the cost of buildings to house those perks.  It is kinda like the pot call the kettle black, if you know what I mean.  

Sure, these three CEOs should be willing to give up most everything to see their companies succeed and survive.  I would in their position.  Most of us &quot;normal&quot; Americans would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am wondering if any of the millionaires in congress would be willing to give up their paychecks for $1.00 in salary to help our country&#8217;s debt.  Also, those millionaires and the other congressmen if they would be willing to give up all of their perks of office.  We spend hundreds of millions on congressional perks alone.  That is not counting the cost of buildings to house those perks.  It is kinda like the pot call the kettle black, if you know what I mean.  </p>
<p>Sure, these three CEOs should be willing to give up most everything to see their companies succeed and survive.  I would in their position.  Most of us &#8220;normal&#8221; Americans would.</p>
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		<title>By: Fahrvergnugen Fanboy</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/19/detroit-3-ceos-chastised-by-congress-loan-hopes-dim/#comment-81724</link>
		<dc:creator>Fahrvergnugen Fanboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;2) Handover volt to Toyota or Honda

3) Handover volt to Hundai or Kia&quot;

Or, my preference: Voltswagens rolling off the new assembly line in Chattanooga!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;2) Handover volt to Toyota or Honda</p>
<p>3) Handover volt to Hundai or Kia&#8221;</p>
<p>Or, my preference: Voltswagens rolling off the new assembly line in Chattanooga!</p>
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