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	<title>Comments on: Pelosi Lays Out Conditions For Automaker Aid</title>
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		<title>By: janosh</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/15/pelosi-lays-out-conditions-for-automaker-aid/#comment-81103</link>
		<dc:creator>janosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread is dominated by disappointed Palin voters (nobody voted for McCain). If they&#039;re government employees or retired military they are, by definition, socialists...living on taxes from my labor and enjoying socialized medicine. They have no right to speak negatively of government intervention since they, themselves, like Palin and McCain, live on the government teat.

IMO the Big Three represent terrible influences, as corporations, on American values. They mostly peddle giant costumes, intended to inflate feeble egos...Hummers for example, though they&#039;re not the worst. 

They claim they sell what the buyers demand&gt; giant SUVs. Toyota and Nissan follow suit because the Palin voters, the half of America that doesn&#039;t drive Toyota/Honda et al, are such easy marketing targets.

I say we need one or more American equivalents to VW/Saab/MorrisMinor...

.....each of which was developed in response to WWII in one way or another as ways to invigorate struggling economies. One was Nazi, one was Swedish socialist, and one was British whatever...all were advanced engineering and each was crucial.

All were modern, reliable, and economical. All had their countries&#039; most advanced chassis and engine designs, all had better electrical systems than their countries&#039; finest luxury cars (VW was better than Mercedes, Morris was better than Rolls).

IMO the Big Three should be butchered back to the Little Three, not allowed to produce giant gas guzzlers, limited by law to 75% vehicle count production of 25mpg IN TOWN cars and pickups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread is dominated by disappointed Palin voters (nobody voted for McCain). If they&#8217;re government employees or retired military they are, by definition, socialists&#8230;living on taxes from my labor and enjoying socialized medicine. They have no right to speak negatively of government intervention since they, themselves, like Palin and McCain, live on the government teat.</p>
<p>IMO the Big Three represent terrible influences, as corporations, on American values. They mostly peddle giant costumes, intended to inflate feeble egos&#8230;Hummers for example, though they&#8217;re not the worst. </p>
<p>They claim they sell what the buyers demand&gt; giant SUVs. Toyota and Nissan follow suit because the Palin voters, the half of America that doesn&#8217;t drive Toyota/Honda et al, are such easy marketing targets.</p>
<p>I say we need one or more American equivalents to VW/Saab/MorrisMinor&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;..each of which was developed in response to WWII in one way or another as ways to invigorate struggling economies. One was Nazi, one was Swedish socialist, and one was British whatever&#8230;all were advanced engineering and each was crucial.</p>
<p>All were modern, reliable, and economical. All had their countries&#8217; most advanced chassis and engine designs, all had better electrical systems than their countries&#8217; finest luxury cars (VW was better than Mercedes, Morris was better than Rolls).</p>
<p>IMO the Big Three should be butchered back to the Little Three, not allowed to produce giant gas guzzlers, limited by law to 75% vehicle count production of 25mpg IN TOWN cars and pickups.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Z</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/15/pelosi-lays-out-conditions-for-automaker-aid/#comment-81004</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great photo of Pelosi with her hand out. Give the government money to save GM? I&#039;d rather buy a new GM car and give the money directly to GM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great photo of Pelosi with her hand out. Give the government money to save GM? I&#8217;d rather buy a new GM car and give the money directly to GM.</p>
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		<title>By: 2Snowboard</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/15/pelosi-lays-out-conditions-for-automaker-aid/#comment-80987</link>
		<dc:creator>2Snowboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jbfalaska &quot;As for Ms. Pelosi, Thank God. A party is now in power that is putting American manufacturing first, middle-class wages first...Thank God the Democrats appear to actually be putting us first&quot;

You apparently have more information on what Pelosi is proposing than I have seen, please explain what in this proposal accomplishes this conclusion? I&#039;m not interested in Democrat Kool-Aid talking points from you and DonC so don&#039;t waste anyone&#039;s time, more of the &quot;what&quot; their bailout would do. Please be specific.

I have never bought a GM product in my life, so I don&#039;t appreciate the fervor you on the left want to spend my $ on a company I have no responsibility for, unless of course you can explain yourself. I was planning on buying a Volt, but frankly GM&#039;s chicken little behavior since it became clear the party of big government was coming to power gives me second thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jbfalaska &#8220;As for Ms. Pelosi, Thank God. A party is now in power that is putting American manufacturing first, middle-class wages first&#8230;Thank God the Democrats appear to actually be putting us first&#8221;</p>
<p>You apparently have more information on what Pelosi is proposing than I have seen, please explain what in this proposal accomplishes this conclusion? I&#8217;m not interested in Democrat Kool-Aid talking points from you and DonC so don&#8217;t waste anyone&#8217;s time, more of the &#8220;what&#8221; their bailout would do. Please be specific.</p>
<p>I have never bought a GM product in my life, so I don&#8217;t appreciate the fervor you on the left want to spend my $ on a company I have no responsibility for, unless of course you can explain yourself. I was planning on buying a Volt, but frankly GM&#8217;s chicken little behavior since it became clear the party of big government was coming to power gives me second thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Sommerfeld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Sommerfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where the heck is the requirement for getting the bailout, that the unions get shown the door so the automakers actually have a remote chance at being competitive again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where the heck is the requirement for getting the bailout, that the unions get shown the door so the automakers actually have a remote chance at being competitive again?</p>
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		<title>By: hc1124</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/15/pelosi-lays-out-conditions-for-automaker-aid/#comment-80752</link>
		<dc:creator>hc1124</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another rising view of the actual historical conduct of GM and other &quot;auto makers&quot;.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/11/16-6</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another rising view of the actual historical conduct of GM and other &#8220;auto makers&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/11/16-6" rel="nofollow">http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/11/16-6</a></p>
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