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	<title>Comments on: Poll:  Should the US Government Give Emergency Loans to GM, or Let Them Fail?</title>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/13/poll-should-the-us-government-give-emergency-loans-to-gm/#comment-84045</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOOOOOO all around.

My company is Struggling, people are taking pay cuts, no bonuses … hell we are even not having a Christmas party just a lunch.  Time to restructure a company is now … stop the kickbacks and the f’n advertising … start building a product that speaks for itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOOOOOO all around.</p>
<p>My company is Struggling, people are taking pay cuts, no bonuses … hell we are even not having a Christmas party just a lunch.  Time to restructure a company is now … stop the kickbacks and the f’n advertising … start building a product that speaks for itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/13/poll-should-the-us-government-give-emergency-loans-to-gm/#comment-81219</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of worthless results can you expect when visitors to a GM/Volt site vote on whether to save GM/Volt?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of worthless results can you expect when visitors to a GM/Volt site vote on whether to save GM/Volt?</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Kirkland</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/13/poll-should-the-us-government-give-emergency-loans-to-gm/#comment-81097</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Kirkland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let them fail.... it would be one thing if they were all that the politicians were making them out to be.... you convince me that they have not made a profit in the last 30 to 40 years off the american people that they could have invested in the electric car or any other form of alternative fuels.... that&#039;s right you can&#039;t... it happened to them with the flood of japanese cars when they first came into this country and the U.S. auto industry didn&#039;t learn their lesson... let them fail, it is what they deserve..... someone else with a vision into the future will step up and take their place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let them fail&#8230;. it would be one thing if they were all that the politicians were making them out to be&#8230;. you convince me that they have not made a profit in the last 30 to 40 years off the american people that they could have invested in the electric car or any other form of alternative fuels&#8230;. that&#8217;s right you can&#8217;t&#8230; it happened to them with the flood of japanese cars when they first came into this country and the U.S. auto industry didn&#8217;t learn their lesson&#8230; let them fail, it is what they deserve&#8230;.. someone else with a vision into the future will step up and take their place.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/13/poll-should-the-us-government-give-emergency-loans-to-gm/#comment-81049</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 02:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GM, and other companies need to fail.  Banks included.  The government needs to focus on what works.  More Toyota and Honda cars are made here than people give credit.

The union workers have a great job.  I wish I could demand a raise now and again.  However, it&#039;s put their employers into a crisis (Again).

Let them fail.  other companies are working on Solar/ plug in/ compressed air and hydrogen power cars.  Even GM has some really great mileage cars that are not sold here.  Why?  Because they (and the govenment) have choosen not to produce or allow them to be brought over from elsewhere.

Anybody wanna buy an idea?

The volt was great press for a couple years.  I wanted one.  But price, looks, and promises aren&#039;t enough.  Plug in hybrids Toyota and honda will be here before this thing hits the road.

Oh and National Security is not enough reason to buy out three car companies.  If we need Military Vechicals we can buy a couple plants and build them as we need them.  (That&#039;s what we did in WW2).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GM, and other companies need to fail.  Banks included.  The government needs to focus on what works.  More Toyota and Honda cars are made here than people give credit.</p>
<p>The union workers have a great job.  I wish I could demand a raise now and again.  However, it&#8217;s put their employers into a crisis (Again).</p>
<p>Let them fail.  other companies are working on Solar/ plug in/ compressed air and hydrogen power cars.  Even GM has some really great mileage cars that are not sold here.  Why?  Because they (and the govenment) have choosen not to produce or allow them to be brought over from elsewhere.</p>
<p>Anybody wanna buy an idea?</p>
<p>The volt was great press for a couple years.  I wanted one.  But price, looks, and promises aren&#8217;t enough.  Plug in hybrids Toyota and honda will be here before this thing hits the road.</p>
<p>Oh and National Security is not enough reason to buy out three car companies.  If we need Military Vechicals we can buy a couple plants and build them as we need them.  (That&#8217;s what we did in WW2).</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/13/poll-should-the-us-government-give-emergency-loans-to-gm/#comment-80754</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want my Volt, but not at this price.  I don&#039;t agree with one post that GM is &quot;lying&quot; about the Volt.  I think rather the reason to vote NO to a bailout for any of the Detroit 3 is that they have demonstrated a collective and cumulative inability to manage their businesses for decades.  It is best for all of us in the long run to end it now as they won&#039;t be prepared for the next crisis either.  The UAW should be ashamed of their performance, but they are not the cause.  If they suffer here, I won&#039;t shed a tear.

I drive two GM troublefree automobiles that I love.  It has never been about the abiltiy to build cars, it is about the ability to run the business responsibly and with a clear vision of the future.

Not to despair, some American independents will rise from the ashes and re-create a uniquely American automobile; including an electric one that we will all love and drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want my Volt, but not at this price.  I don&#8217;t agree with one post that GM is &#8220;lying&#8221; about the Volt.  I think rather the reason to vote NO to a bailout for any of the Detroit 3 is that they have demonstrated a collective and cumulative inability to manage their businesses for decades.  It is best for all of us in the long run to end it now as they won&#8217;t be prepared for the next crisis either.  The UAW should be ashamed of their performance, but they are not the cause.  If they suffer here, I won&#8217;t shed a tear.</p>
<p>I drive two GM troublefree automobiles that I love.  It has never been about the abiltiy to build cars, it is about the ability to run the business responsibly and with a clear vision of the future.</p>
<p>Not to despair, some American independents will rise from the ashes and re-create a uniquely American automobile; including an electric one that we will all love and drive.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob G</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/13/poll-should-the-us-government-give-emergency-loans-to-gm/#comment-80683</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m amazed at all the people making the claim that GM got themselves into this mess.

GM&#039;s decisions are responsible for their decline in market share, but this mess is far bigger than that.  HALF of their business dried up over night.  Worse yet, their ability to get a loan also dried up over night.  This is a direct result of the decision by the federal lawmakers (that we elected) to legalize gambling in the financial markets, and those irresponsible, greedy cowards who exploited our economy.

What is being referred to as a bailout is simply a LOAN.  This is the least the government who caused this situation can do.

Beyond that, the government needs to make the playing field level for domestic producers.  Capitalism cannot thrive without competition, and competition cannot exist when foreign producers have so many advantages.  We need to restructure our taxes, fix the health care cost crisis, and stop tolerating direct subsidies, intellectual property theft, barriers to imports, exploitation of labor and environment, and currency manipulation that are so rampant with our major trading partners in Asia and Europe.  I&#039;m not talking about protectionism here (because that will just make American industry weak and lazy), but I am advocating a fair chance to compete, where every competitor follows the same rules (or pays tariffs to equalize the differences) and everyone has an equal chance to succeed. 

And by the way, Honda and Toyota do not &quot;make&quot; cars in the USA.  They provide a few low-tech jobs doing final assembly of major sub-components that are designed and built (the best and most jobs) overseas.  Those who claim so have probably read nothing beyond Toyota&#039;s marketing pamphlets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m amazed at all the people making the claim that GM got themselves into this mess.</p>
<p>GM&#8217;s decisions are responsible for their decline in market share, but this mess is far bigger than that.  HALF of their business dried up over night.  Worse yet, their ability to get a loan also dried up over night.  This is a direct result of the decision by the federal lawmakers (that we elected) to legalize gambling in the financial markets, and those irresponsible, greedy cowards who exploited our economy.</p>
<p>What is being referred to as a bailout is simply a LOAN.  This is the least the government who caused this situation can do.</p>
<p>Beyond that, the government needs to make the playing field level for domestic producers.  Capitalism cannot thrive without competition, and competition cannot exist when foreign producers have so many advantages.  We need to restructure our taxes, fix the health care cost crisis, and stop tolerating direct subsidies, intellectual property theft, barriers to imports, exploitation of labor and environment, and currency manipulation that are so rampant with our major trading partners in Asia and Europe.  I&#8217;m not talking about protectionism here (because that will just make American industry weak and lazy), but I am advocating a fair chance to compete, where every competitor follows the same rules (or pays tariffs to equalize the differences) and everyone has an equal chance to succeed. </p>
<p>And by the way, Honda and Toyota do not &#8220;make&#8221; cars in the USA.  They provide a few low-tech jobs doing final assembly of major sub-components that are designed and built (the best and most jobs) overseas.  Those who claim so have probably read nothing beyond Toyota&#8217;s marketing pamphlets.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/13/poll-should-the-us-government-give-emergency-loans-to-gm/#comment-80649</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have this weird opinion. The EV1 was ahead of it&#039;s time, GM built a very good car, and many wanted to purchase it.  Back then GM should of thought of that, but didn&#039;t, Hummer was more logical for them.

Now move the clock forward, GM hasn&#039;t a clue what to do with the Hummer brand, they make a POINTLESS HYBRID SUV, that costs more than my home!!  Then to make all of those new trucks, and other SUV&#039;s is sickening..  Then we need the frosting for the cake, don&#039;t we?  How about a $103k+ Corvette!!!!  Come on GM, the Camaro was a bad enough stretch, and now you want to produce the &quot;ultimate vette&quot;???  Seriously, you guys need to wake up!!!  

I provide &quot;pilot car&quot; service, or in short follow mobile homes, and oversize loads.  A few states mandate that we have this 10&quot;x5&#039; sign on the ROOF of the escort vehicle. (with very little back angle, like 80*) That is bad enough, I was going to use the Volt for this reason, but I&#039;ve pretty much changed my mind.  The Volt warranty is good, but I&#039;ll put 100k miles on it in 1.5 years.  Also, I don&#039;t know if GM would cover the batteries IF I was adding stress to the entire system. What if the $15k battery pack failed at 160k miles?  I don&#039;t havt that kind of money..

I&#039;d like to see GM succeed, and the Volt become reality, just a matter of time before we find out..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have this weird opinion. The EV1 was ahead of it&#8217;s time, GM built a very good car, and many wanted to purchase it.  Back then GM should of thought of that, but didn&#8217;t, Hummer was more logical for them.</p>
<p>Now move the clock forward, GM hasn&#8217;t a clue what to do with the Hummer brand, they make a POINTLESS HYBRID SUV, that costs more than my home!!  Then to make all of those new trucks, and other SUV&#8217;s is sickening..  Then we need the frosting for the cake, don&#8217;t we?  How about a $103k+ Corvette!!!!  Come on GM, the Camaro was a bad enough stretch, and now you want to produce the &#8220;ultimate vette&#8221;???  Seriously, you guys need to wake up!!!  </p>
<p>I provide &#8220;pilot car&#8221; service, or in short follow mobile homes, and oversize loads.  A few states mandate that we have this 10&#8243;x5&#8242; sign on the ROOF of the escort vehicle. (with very little back angle, like 80*) That is bad enough, I was going to use the Volt for this reason, but I&#8217;ve pretty much changed my mind.  The Volt warranty is good, but I&#8217;ll put 100k miles on it in 1.5 years.  Also, I don&#8217;t know if GM would cover the batteries IF I was adding stress to the entire system. What if the $15k battery pack failed at 160k miles?  I don&#8217;t havt that kind of money..</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see GM succeed, and the Volt become reality, just a matter of time before we find out..</p>
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		<title>By: Tom M</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/13/poll-should-the-us-government-give-emergency-loans-to-gm/#comment-80527</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 00:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enough is enough.  The big three have never had the guts to stand up to the unions and we all end up paying for it.  I have never owned anything but a GM vehicle and remember the oil embargo in the 70s but GM did not learn a thing from it.

Give the consumer what they want and they will buy it.

If the US Government bails out any one of them, I will never buy from them again.  I have remained loyal through the junk they made and sold.  But enough is enough.

I am offended by GM&#039;s whining just like too so many US citizens are doing after making bad choices.  Whatever happened to American values such as personal responsibility and accountability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough is enough.  The big three have never had the guts to stand up to the unions and we all end up paying for it.  I have never owned anything but a GM vehicle and remember the oil embargo in the 70s but GM did not learn a thing from it.</p>
<p>Give the consumer what they want and they will buy it.</p>
<p>If the US Government bails out any one of them, I will never buy from them again.  I have remained loyal through the junk they made and sold.  But enough is enough.</p>
<p>I am offended by GM&#8217;s whining just like too so many US citizens are doing after making bad choices.  Whatever happened to American values such as personal responsibility and accountability.</p>
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		<title>By: rad</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/13/poll-should-the-us-government-give-emergency-loans-to-gm/#comment-80452</link>
		<dc:creator>rad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If GM, Ford or Chrysler made a 100% electric car, not a hybrid, even with a 50 mile range, I&#039;d wait in line for it.  Give me a quality car with a warranty, something that doesn&#039;t break down every week.
I&#039;d buy it.

rad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If GM, Ford or Chrysler made a 100% electric car, not a hybrid, even with a 50 mile range, I&#8217;d wait in line for it.  Give me a quality car with a warranty, something that doesn&#8217;t break down every week.<br />
I&#8217;d buy it.</p>
<p>rad</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffery .....</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffery .....</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need the #1 auto maker GM to stay afloat but make the top CEO&#039;s take 50% pay cut. (trim the FAT from the top). Not the hard working union employee&#039;s that have family&#039;s that need pay check every week just to keep up with the changing times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need the #1 auto maker GM to stay afloat but make the top CEO&#8217;s take 50% pay cut. (trim the FAT from the top). Not the hard working union employee&#8217;s that have family&#8217;s that need pay check every week just to keep up with the changing times.</p>
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