Comments on: The Volt Will be a Global Vehicle http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/21/the-volt-will-be-sold-in-every-country-in-the-world-gm-does-business/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:07:32 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Chris http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/21/the-volt-will-be-sold-in-every-country-in-the-world-gm-does-business/#comment-77033 Chris Sat, 01 Nov 2008 08:30:30 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1055#comment-77033 Exciting article. I also hadn't really realized the potential this car has globally until I read this. Granted it takes a little bit of mathematical icing for an American to economically justify buying this car for $35,000 and expect to get your money's worth when gas costs $3-3.50/gallon. (I've done some math, 15,000 miles a year * 10 years = 150,000 miles per 10 years, 25 mpg combined city/highway, say gas averages out over the year $3.50 for the next ten years) that means it costs you 14 cents a mile in a normal car and 2 cents a mile in the Volt) means you are saving somewhere around $18,000 over 10 years. Putting it that way sounds...pretty good... But now, imagine you're in Europe or the UK where gas costs $5-9 per gallon (I personally have lived in Europe for a couple of years and paid these prices). Now you're talking twice that much gas savings in the same 10 year period. With conservative estimates, I would say you are saving $30,000 in 10 years of owning the VOLT just in fuel (I calculated that for someone that drives 15,000 miles a year in a car that averages 30 mpg city/highway combined, and pays $6/gallon for fuel, although when I was in France it was more like $7/gallon) You RARELY drive more than 40 miles in one day. The Euro is worth $1.35, meaning for 25,000 euros (but you probably have tax rebates too) only slightly more than a normal car for them, but you never have to buy gas again. Plus all of their residential electrical outlets are 220V, so it would take just 2-3 hours to charge and you would never spend time at gas stations again (I would imagine that's something I could get used to). It's a no-brainer, especially for individuals and countries interested in energy security (which is becoming more important all the time). The volt is perfect for you. Exciting article. I also hadn’t really realized the potential this car has globally until I read this. Granted it takes a little bit of mathematical icing for an American to economically justify buying this car for $35,000 and expect to get your money’s worth when gas costs $3-3.50/gallon. (I’ve done some math, 15,000 miles a year * 10 years = 150,000 miles per 10 years, 25 mpg combined city/highway, say gas averages out over the year $3.50 for the next ten years) that means it costs you 14 cents a mile in a normal car and 2 cents a mile in the Volt) means you are saving somewhere around $18,000 over 10 years. Putting it that way sounds…pretty good…

But now, imagine you’re in Europe or the UK where gas costs $5-9 per gallon (I personally have lived in Europe for a couple of years and paid these prices). Now you’re talking twice that much gas savings in the same 10 year period. With conservative estimates, I would say you are saving $30,000 in 10 years of owning the VOLT just in fuel (I calculated that for someone that drives 15,000 miles a year in a car that averages 30 mpg city/highway combined, and pays $6/gallon for fuel, although when I was in France it was more like $7/gallon)

You RARELY drive more than 40 miles in one day. The Euro is worth $1.35, meaning for 25,000 euros (but you probably have tax rebates too) only slightly more than a normal car for them, but you never have to buy gas again. Plus all of their residential electrical outlets are 220V, so it would take just 2-3 hours to charge and you would never spend time at gas stations again (I would imagine that’s something I could get used to). It’s a no-brainer, especially for individuals and countries interested in energy security (which is becoming more important all the time).

The volt is perfect for you.

]]> By: mitch http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/21/the-volt-will-be-sold-in-every-country-in-the-world-gm-does-business/#comment-75346 mitch Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:50:44 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1055#comment-75346 #17 Gordon I am Brain..but where are we going to find rubber pants our size? (sorry couldn't resist) #17 Gordon

I am Brain..but where are we going to find rubber pants our size?

(sorry couldn’t resist)

]]> By: statik http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/21/the-volt-will-be-sold-in-every-country-in-the-world-gm-does-business/#comment-75333 statik Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:36:54 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1055#comment-75333 Thought I would mention this here, rather than 'polluting' a new thread: Microcar- M.Go electric. It's real,it's for sale Q1 2009 (under 6 months)...but it isn't very fast, lol. (oh yeah...only in Europe) 4 versions -two "citys", with a maximum speed of 30mph one 75 mile range one 90 mile range -two "standard car" versions, max 45mph one 55 mile range one 75 mile range Here is the official PDF if you want to give it a once over: http://www.mgo-electric.fr/download/dossier_uk.pdf Thought I would mention this here, rather than ‘polluting’ a new thread:

Microcar- M.Go electric. It’s real,it’s for sale Q1 2009 (under 6 months)…but it isn’t very fast, lol. (oh yeah…only in Europe)

4 versions
-two “citys”, with a maximum speed of 30mph
one 75 mile range
one 90 mile range
-two “standard car” versions, max 45mph
one 55 mile range
one 75 mile range

Here is the official PDF if you want to give it a once over:
http://www.mgo-electric.fr/download/dossier_uk.pdf

]]> By: tim-the-dreamer http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/21/the-volt-will-be-sold-in-every-country-in-the-world-gm-does-business/#comment-75296 tim-the-dreamer Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:29:22 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1055#comment-75296 Anyone, I don't care who; I would like someone to answer/ explain to me one simple thing. If the ICE is constantly running to maintain 30% charge how are you using less petrolium as compaired to a short time use for a full regen to full capacity and thereby useing batt pwr til fuel resuppy? Oh on another tangent, you can find on-line 25 volt solar panels for RV's for about $200 max and 12 to 110 converters at Wal-mart,so the $4G panels sounds suspicious to me. I doubt I'll ever be able to get a volt(us lower income folks don't have the ability to purchase brand new vehicles every year or four and can have onely one vehicle for most of our lives), but I was interested due to the potential of the vehicle to get troops back home out of hell. Sure their families'd like that. I'd appreciate any help you can provide. I'll scan for any response in a few days, not all of us can afford the luxuries that others take for granted. Anyone, I don’t care who; I would like someone to answer/ explain to me one simple thing. If the ICE is constantly running to maintain 30% charge how are you using less petrolium as compaired to a short time use for a full regen to full capacity and thereby useing batt pwr til fuel resuppy? Oh on another tangent, you can find on-line 25 volt solar panels for RV’s for about $200 max and 12 to 110 converters at Wal-mart,so the $4G panels sounds suspicious to me. I doubt I’ll ever be able to get a volt(us lower income folks don’t have the ability to purchase brand new vehicles every year or four and can have onely one vehicle for most of our lives), but I was interested due to the potential of the vehicle to get troops back home out of hell. Sure their families’d like that. I’d appreciate any help you can provide. I’ll scan for any response in a few days, not all of us can afford the luxuries that others take for granted.

]]> By: Grizzly http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/21/the-volt-will-be-sold-in-every-country-in-the-world-gm-does-business/#comment-75282 Grizzly Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:53:55 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1055#comment-75282 Rashiid #105 "# Yup and stick up your middle finger in the direction of OPEC while you’re at it. :)" *** *** *** Couldn't agree more, yet I'm always suspicious. If the Volt's RE ICE is E85 capable, I'm even more convinced. This IS important! Rashiid #105

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Yup and stick up your middle finger in the direction of OPEC while you’re at it. :) ”

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Couldn’t agree more, yet I’m always suspicious. If the Volt’s RE ICE is E85 capable, I’m even more convinced. This IS important!

]]> By: statik http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/21/the-volt-will-be-sold-in-every-country-in-the-world-gm-does-business/#comment-75260 statik Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:29:38 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1055#comment-75260 #102 noel park We are paying right at $0.13/KWH average when you add up all the fees, taxes, etc. to the bottom line and then apply it to the KWH used. Even so, we there are only two of us at home now, and we have gas stove, dryer and on demand water heater. We live in a fairly cool area and don’t have AC. Our bill this summer has been $40-50/month. As much as we would love to put up a solar array, or make some other gesture toward “Flat, Hot And Crowded”, it’s pretty hard to justify at that level. I might take another look at doing it at my shop though. The bill there is a whole different deal ------------------------------------------- #103 RB -- noel park, you guys are terrific, really inspirational! -------------------------------------------- No A/C noel? I live in Canada and that makes me feel ill. Is this fairly cool area you speak of... Anchorage? I hope so, lol. You wouldn't need much of a 'solar array' to jack out $40 of electricity...especially at .13. Thats only 30kW/month...hella low. Would convert to around a 2.2kW system? 11 panels, thats more like solar awning over the back deck, hehe. (Also a easy set-up/install like that). Depending on your state and how handy you are, cost might be around $12K before rebates...and depending on the state... $6K bottom line? Heck we go up or down by $6,000 bucks every day just guessing the Volt's MSRP, hehe. #102 noel park

We are paying right at $0.13/KWH average when you add up all the fees, taxes, etc. to the bottom line and then apply it to the KWH used. Even so, we there are only two of us at home now, and we have gas stove, dryer and on demand water heater. We live in a fairly cool area and don’t have AC. Our bill this summer has been $40-50/month. As much as we would love to put up a solar array, or make some other gesture toward “Flat, Hot And Crowded”, it’s pretty hard to justify at that level.

I might take another look at doing it at my shop though. The bill there is a whole different deal
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#103 RB — noel park, you guys are terrific, really inspirational!
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No A/C noel? I live in Canada and that makes me feel ill.

Is this fairly cool area you speak of… Anchorage? I hope so, lol. You wouldn’t need much of a ’solar array’ to jack out $40 of electricity…especially at .13. Thats only 30kW/month…hella low. Would convert to around a 2.2kW system? 11 panels, thats more like solar awning over the back deck, hehe. (Also a easy set-up/install like that).

Depending on your state and how handy you are, cost might be around $12K before rebates…and depending on the state… $6K bottom line? Heck we go up or down by $6,000 bucks every day just guessing the Volt’s MSRP, hehe.

]]> By: real$$$ http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/21/the-volt-will-be-sold-in-every-country-in-the-world-gm-does-business/#comment-75245 real$$$ Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:08:12 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1055#comment-75245 At any price under $8.00 GM stock is a steal right now. This company is two years away from the first of several splits without diluting earnings. Turnaround of the century! At any price under $8.00 GM stock is a steal right now. This company is two years away from the first of several splits without diluting earnings.

Turnaround of the century!

]]> By: Rashiid Amul http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/21/the-volt-will-be-sold-in-every-country-in-the-world-gm-does-business/#comment-75240 Rashiid Amul Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:51:47 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1055#comment-75240 #93 CDAVIS says, <i>* Don’t get mad…do get a VOLT…then smile each time you pass up a gas station.</i> --------------------- Yup and stick up your middle finger in the direction of OPEC while you're at it. :) #93 CDAVIS says,

* Don’t get mad…do get a VOLT…then smile each time you pass up a gas station.

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Yup and stick up your middle finger in the direction of OPEC while you’re at it. :)

]]> By: Rashiid Amul http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/21/the-volt-will-be-sold-in-every-country-in-the-world-gm-does-business/#comment-75238 Rashiid Amul Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:45:34 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1055#comment-75238 #75 N. Riley says, <i>For you Ethanol fans, Hunt Refining in Tuscaloosa, Alabama just told us they would only offer E10 gasoline starting this week. “One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind!” Or is it?</i> --------------- We've had E10 here in Connecticut for the last few years. Cars seem to run fine on it. My Elantra gets 39 MPG with it. They replaced MTBE with E10. So all of our gas has it. #75 N. Riley says,

For you Ethanol fans, Hunt Refining in Tuscaloosa, Alabama just told us they would only offer E10 gasoline starting this week. “One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind!” Or is it?

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We’ve had E10 here in Connecticut for the last few years.
Cars seem to run fine on it. My Elantra gets 39 MPG with it.
They replaced MTBE with E10. So all of our gas has it.

]]> By: RB http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/21/the-volt-will-be-sold-in-every-country-in-the-world-gm-does-business/#comment-75235 RB Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:19:23 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1055#comment-75235 #102 noel park --- you guys are terrific, really inspirational! #102 noel park — you guys are terrific, really inspirational!

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