Comments on: Chevy Volt HVAC Development: ICE Will Run From the Start at Less Than 40 Below Zero http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/16/chevy-volt-hvac-development-ice-will-run-from-the-start-at-less-than-40-below/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:11:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Poe http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/16/chevy-volt-hvac-development-ice-will-run-from-the-start-at-less-than-40-below/#comment-101043 Poe Wed, 18 Mar 2009 02:20:15 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1067#comment-101043 What is all the excitement about -40, the majority of these cars are not going to be sold to people who live in -40 areas. Peo who live in -40 areas need 4 WD suv's. Not high mileage puddle jumpers. I do like the idea of pre heating the car, while you are chaging it. You could heat a heat sink, then pull the heat off that. Don't forget Elec motors do generate heat too. All kinds of ways to avoid turning the ICE on. My other personal beef, they complain about companies going overseas. Maybe the highest corporate tax in the world might have something to due with it. And we will not get into how many companies DEP has killed. Good day all. What is all the excitement about -40, the majority of these cars are not going to be sold to people who live in -40 areas. Peo who live in -40 areas need 4 WD suv’s. Not high mileage puddle jumpers.

I do like the idea of pre heating the car, while you are chaging it. You could heat a heat sink, then pull the heat off that. Don’t forget Elec motors do generate heat too. All kinds of ways to avoid turning the ICE on.

My other personal beef, they complain about companies going overseas. Maybe the highest corporate tax in the world might have something to due with it. And we will not get into how many companies DEP has killed. Good day all.

]]> By: Hank Beasley http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/16/chevy-volt-hvac-development-ice-will-run-from-the-start-at-less-than-40-below/#comment-75879 Hank Beasley Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:20:26 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1067#comment-75879 What about a heat pump? It would be up to 4 times as efficient. What about a heat pump? It would be up to 4 times as efficient.

]]> By: carcus http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/16/chevy-volt-hvac-development-ice-will-run-from-the-start-at-less-than-40-below/#comment-74833 carcus Sun, 19 Oct 2008 01:03:30 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1067#comment-74833 #100 Dave G./ # 83 Texas Tea, How hard do you want to think about this topic? It's a bit of a Pandora's box, isn't it? Energy Debate Fact Check #2 - Is Energy Independence Good For the Nation? http://www.theoildrum.com/node/4647 Don't forget about conservation. It may be the best answer of all. #100 Dave G./ # 83 Texas Tea,

How hard do you want to think about this topic? It’s a bit of a Pandora’s box, isn’t it?

Energy Debate Fact Check #2 – Is Energy Independence Good For the Nation?
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/4647

Don’t forget about conservation. It may be the best answer of all.

]]> By: Grizzly http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/16/chevy-volt-hvac-development-ice-will-run-from-the-start-at-less-than-40-below/#comment-74717 Grizzly Sat, 18 Oct 2008 05:00:20 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1067#comment-74717 Tom H #118 " If electric cars do become pervasive, and people can buy 300MPGe PHEVs, or gas free BEVs, the usage of gasoline will drop by 90-95%. At this level of usage there will be no incentive (neither economic nor ecological) to convert our entire infrastructure away from gasoline" *** *** *** The problem is that this won't happen overnight. In fact it's going to take quite a while for it to happen and for EVs in general to have any chance at proliferation they'll need to be RE EVs. For this reason, liquid fuels will be with us for quite some time. Since the infrastructure for E85 already exists, it's unlike H2 or CNG. The same pumps and stations that pump 87reg can pump E85 it's just a matter of breaking big oil's monopoly. Tom H #118

” If electric cars do become pervasive, and people can buy 300MPGe PHEVs, or gas free BEVs, the usage of gasoline will drop by 90-95%. At this level of usage there will be no incentive (neither economic nor ecological) to convert our entire infrastructure away from gasoline”

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The problem is that this won’t happen overnight. In fact it’s going to take quite a while for it to happen and for EVs in general to have any chance at proliferation they’ll need to be RE EVs. For this reason, liquid fuels will be with us for quite some time. Since the infrastructure for E85 already exists, it’s unlike H2 or CNG. The same pumps and stations that pump 87reg can pump E85 it’s just a matter of breaking big oil’s monopoly.

]]> By: Tom H http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/16/chevy-volt-hvac-development-ice-will-run-from-the-start-at-less-than-40-below/#comment-74634 Tom H Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:14:42 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1067#comment-74634 IMO we will not see both electric cars and alternate fuels (E-85 or CNG) become pervasive. If electric cars do become pervasive, and people can buy 300MPGe PHEVs, or gas free BEVs, the usage of gasoline will drop by 90-95%. At this level of usage there will be no incentive (neither economic nor ecological) to convert our entire infrastructure away from gasoline. Of course, even with a 90-95% reduction, crude oil wil run out someday, but not within the current century. IMO we will not see both electric cars and alternate fuels (E-85 or CNG) become pervasive. If electric cars do become pervasive, and people can buy 300MPGe PHEVs, or gas free BEVs, the usage of gasoline will drop by 90-95%. At this level of usage there will be no incentive (neither economic nor ecological) to convert our entire infrastructure away from gasoline.

Of course, even with a 90-95% reduction, crude oil wil run out someday, but not within the current century.

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