Comments on: Along With Wall Street Bailout, Plug-in Car Tax Credit is Passed: Chevy Volt Now $7500 Less http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/03/along-with-wall-street-bailout-plug-in-car-tax-credit-is-passed-chevy-volt-now-7500-less/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:07:32 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Geronimo http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/03/along-with-wall-street-bailout-plug-in-car-tax-credit-is-passed-chevy-volt-now-7500-less/#comment-141256 Geronimo Sat, 29 Aug 2009 06:04:28 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1317#comment-141256 Finally. The government gave away my tax money to help people buy Hummers, Ford Excursions, and other hulking gas guzzlers (a $100,000 tax break, which was then reduced to only $25,000 by those frugal Republicans): http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=3326593 Now, I might get a $7,500 tax break to help launch a 21st century auto industry and reduce my country's dependence on foreign oil. Not as good as a $25,000 tax break, but thank you just the same. Finally.

The government gave away my tax money to help people buy Hummers, Ford Excursions, and other hulking gas guzzlers (a $100,000 tax break, which was then reduced to only $25,000 by those frugal Republicans):
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=3326593

Now, I might get a $7,500 tax break to help launch a 21st century auto industry and reduce my country’s dependence on foreign oil.

Not as good as a $25,000 tax break, but thank you just the same.

]]> By: programming with passion» Blog Archive » Gas guzzling hog vs. Chevy Volt http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/03/along-with-wall-street-bailout-plug-in-car-tax-credit-is-passed-chevy-volt-now-7500-less/#comment-135793 programming with passion» Blog Archive » Gas guzzling hog vs. Chevy Volt Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:26:53 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1317#comment-135793 [...] government will give you some of my money to buy yourself a new Volt.  They will give you $7,500 in [...] [...] government will give you some of my money to buy yourself a new Volt.  They will give you $7,500 in [...]

]]> By: Dan Petit http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/03/along-with-wall-street-bailout-plug-in-car-tax-credit-is-passed-chevy-volt-now-7500-less/#comment-88882 Dan Petit Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:54:48 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1317#comment-88882 While from one perspective, many of us would like a Volt yesterday, the advantage here for us all is being able to gradually learn about the new technologies in fortunately being well-informed by GM about their progress made, their new technological benchmarks. GM is in fact, educating the market about the technologies, which the motoring public has a need to learn about over that same time. Their tireless and relentless moves forward in our Worldwide-transition-era toward green/electric motoring, and as well, from my perspective, that one picture I was able to download with the view of the Volt's drive train, (ICE generator, Battery Pack, etc,) is that we can have the needed time to strive to do all that we can to position ourselves to get one, (especially if what we drive now is only several years old). That one picture showing the Volt's Battery and Range-Extender was worth more than a thousand technical words to me. These concepts are confirmed to me regarding the terrific progress GM is making for us all. How can I say that by looking at only one picture of the Volt? It is because GM designs are so extremely well known by heart by all us technicians, and, also as importantly for me, the extremely-highly gifted Electric-Vehicle electrical engineers whom I personally know right here in Austin, always give me the precise answer to any Electric Vehicle drive train question I may pose them. This will all wonderfully happen for the environment and for the Volt owner, (and everyone else it seems to me). But GM 's excellent standards in designing for all of us an entirely new kind of product require from all of us the patience they most certainly deserve for being the pioneers. Time ultimately will have passed "all too quickly", and, the Volt will certainly be here as we become ready. While from one perspective, many of us would like a Volt yesterday, the advantage here for us all is being able to gradually learn about the new technologies in fortunately being well-informed by GM about their progress made, their new technological benchmarks.
GM is in fact, educating the market about the technologies, which the motoring public has a need to learn about over that same time.
Their tireless and relentless moves forward in our Worldwide-transition-era toward green/electric motoring, and as well, from my perspective, that one picture I was able to download with the view of the Volt’s drive train, (ICE generator, Battery Pack, etc,) is that we can have the needed time to strive to do all that we can to position ourselves to get one, (especially if what we drive now is only several years old).
That one picture showing the Volt’s Battery and Range-Extender was worth more than a thousand technical words to me.
These concepts are confirmed to me regarding the terrific progress GM is making for us all.
How can I say that by looking at only one picture of the Volt?
It is because GM designs are so extremely well known by heart by all us technicians, and, also as importantly for me, the extremely-highly gifted Electric-Vehicle electrical engineers whom I personally know right here in Austin, always give me the precise answer to any Electric Vehicle drive train question I may pose them.
This will all wonderfully happen for the environment and for the Volt owner, (and everyone else it seems to me). But GM ’s excellent standards in designing for all of us an entirely new kind of product require from all of us the patience they most certainly deserve for being the pioneers.
Time ultimately will have passed “all too quickly”, and, the Volt will certainly be here as we become ready.

]]> By: Dan Petit http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/03/along-with-wall-street-bailout-plug-in-car-tax-credit-is-passed-chevy-volt-now-7500-less/#comment-87735 Dan Petit Thu, 25 Dec 2008 15:15:52 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1317#comment-87735 The best way for a $7500 tax credit to work for all of us is to have a highly-controlled set of methods by which an electronic certificate of the $7500 tax credit is resellable by me to another person or company/corporation. It could work like that HD broadcast air converter box "coupon" in the form of a credit card which the FCC sends out to those of us who needed to upgrade our large (but good 'ol) TV's for the new broadcast air HD format. Think of the new kinds of relationships which could come about from large companies to individuals directly in the spirit of coming together to afford us all a GM Volt. (I would always prefer a "snail-mail" old-fashioned-introduction-on-company-letterhead- paper-in-envelope from a company that would like to buy my certificate. It may get them my other kinds of business), "Dear Mr. Petit, We are a company that does [ this kind of ] business, and, if you are in the market to get a GM Volt, we would be interested in bidding on/purchasing your pending tax credit". I think that would work if there were legislation to make the tax credit resellable. Thanks for considering my suggestion. Dan Petit Austin, TX. The best way for a $7500 tax credit to work for all of us is to have a highly-controlled set of methods by which an electronic certificate of the $7500 tax credit is resellable by me to another person or company/corporation. It could work like that HD broadcast air converter box “coupon” in the form of a credit card which the FCC sends out to those of us who needed to upgrade our large (but good ‘ol) TV’s for the new broadcast air HD format.
Think of the new kinds of relationships which could come about from large companies to individuals directly in the spirit of coming together to afford us all a GM Volt. (I would always prefer a “snail-mail” old-fashioned-introduction-on-company-letterhead- paper-in-envelope from a company that would like to buy my certificate. It may get them my other kinds of business),

“Dear Mr. Petit, We are a company that does [ this kind of ]
business, and, if you are in the market to get a GM Volt, we would be interested in bidding on/purchasing your pending tax credit”.
I think that would work if there were legislation to make the tax credit resellable.
Thanks for considering my suggestion.
Dan Petit Austin, TX.

]]> By: Dan Petit http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/03/along-with-wall-street-bailout-plug-in-car-tax-credit-is-passed-chevy-volt-now-7500-less/#comment-75939 Dan Petit Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:24:40 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1317#comment-75939 Tax Credits are not always fair. Rebates are the most fair way to have the Volt more affordable. One provision that I would expect for even tax credits to come into play is that the vehicle will not cost more to eat up the intended "credit". Let a tax credit be convertible to save GM on taxes when tax credits would not help me and a vast number of others who need the Volt, in the form of a rebate. Otherwise, many of us may be required to wait several years. For very small business people like me, whom must cut costs so low for the services we offer, there happens always to be so many required costs-of-doing business to remain competitive, that the net amount of deductions is always, always where the $7500 tax credit would do me/us little or no good at all. I teach auto shop techs how to perform L-1 Advanced Computer Systems Diagnostics, and, in my case, I will certainly need to own a Volt so that I can immediately begin to select the very best of the best technicians (of the 363 that I have already instructed in L-1 Advanced ICE systems), for pre-conditioning for training regarding the Volt's very highly advanced systems, for even the more standardized procedures such as the Range-Extender services. While the Volt may indeed have a very extensive array of Warranties for the expected many years of service, the transitioning of the best techs to the category of the "Very Best" will actually take several years of relentless training as their businesses (management) are able to accommodate. High Voltage propulsion is by no means a "slam-dunk" as far as training is concerned. Yes, it may be true that non-ICE technically-minded individuals will need to be brought into the ICE Advanced L-1 Systems training program which I offer, in order to get them properly placed with the 350 or so shops which I expect to be advising by the 2014 to 2016 time frame. But for educators and small business people and most of the middle class, a tax credit leaves us out completely. Thanks for considering these facts. Dan Petit Austin, TX. Tax Credits are not always fair. Rebates are the most fair way to have the Volt more affordable. One provision that I would expect for even tax credits to come into play is that the vehicle will not cost more to eat up the intended “credit”. Let a tax credit be convertible to save GM on taxes when tax credits would not help me and a vast number of others who need the Volt, in the form of a rebate. Otherwise, many of us may be required to wait several years.
For very small business people like me, whom must cut costs so low for the services we offer, there happens always to be so many required costs-of-doing business to remain competitive, that the net amount of deductions is always, always where the $7500 tax credit would do me/us little or no good at all.
I teach auto shop techs how to perform L-1 Advanced Computer Systems Diagnostics, and, in my case, I will certainly need to own a Volt so that I can immediately begin to select the very best of the best technicians (of the 363 that I have already instructed in L-1 Advanced ICE systems), for pre-conditioning for training regarding the Volt’s very highly advanced systems, for even the more standardized procedures such as the Range-Extender services.
While the Volt may indeed have a very extensive array of Warranties for the expected many years of service, the transitioning of the best techs to the category of the “Very Best” will actually take several years of relentless training as their businesses (management) are able to accommodate.
High Voltage propulsion is by no means a “slam-dunk” as far as training is concerned. Yes, it may be true that non-ICE technically-minded individuals will need to be brought into the ICE Advanced L-1 Systems training program which I offer, in order to get them properly placed with the 350 or so shops which I expect to be advising by the 2014 to 2016 time frame.
But for educators and small business people and most of the middle class, a tax credit leaves us out completely.
Thanks for considering these facts.
Dan Petit Austin, TX.

]]> By: steve http://gm-volt.com/2008/10/03/along-with-wall-street-bailout-plug-in-car-tax-credit-is-passed-chevy-volt-now-7500-less/#comment-74509 steve Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:53:28 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1317#comment-74509 When I first got on this list the Volt was supposed to be under 20,000.The pictures of what it was supposed to look like were stylish and basically an awesome looking car.But as usual GM has raised the price so far up above it original price and made the car so ugly compared to the prototype that I wouldnt buy one.Like always greed has taken over the American car company instead of common sense.As usual it will take a foreign car company to make what we need at a price we can afford.What a shame. That just only goes to show why our auto makers are no longer #1 in anything. When I first got on this list the Volt was supposed to be under 20,000.The pictures of what it was supposed to look like were stylish and basically an awesome looking car.But as usual GM has raised the price so far up above it original price and made the car so ugly compared to the prototype that I wouldnt buy one.Like always greed has taken over the American car company instead of common sense.As usual it will take a foreign car company to make what we need at a price we can afford.What a shame. That just only goes to show why our auto makers are no longer #1 in anything.

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