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	<title>Comments on: One Step Towards a Cheaper Volt:  Senate Passes Plug-in Tax Credit</title>
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		<title>By: William Hughes-Games</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Hughes-Games</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a thought exercise, I wonder what the range would be of the Chevy Amp (brother of Volt), what the price would be and what size the market would be if they:
*replaced the engine with as many batteries as would fit in the compartment.
*used the new lithium titanate batteries instead of lithium ion
*removed all features which are not necessary to make the car roadworthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a thought exercise, I wonder what the range would be of the Chevy Amp (brother of Volt), what the price would be and what size the market would be if they:<br />
*replaced the engine with as many batteries as would fit in the compartment.<br />
*used the new lithium titanate batteries instead of lithium ion<br />
*removed all features which are not necessary to make the car roadworthy.</p>
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		<title>By: statik</title>
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		<dc:creator>statik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#151 Jim I

We are already 10.6 TRILLION DOLLARS in debt, with another TRILLION being tossed to Wall Street to “help” them get over their greed and bad decisions…….

So what is a few more Billion $ in tax rebates? Just ask your great great grand kids what they think about it………….

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You might me happy to know that the 700 billion dollar bailout and fallen apart then...they are working late tonight to try and get it done, the market is going to freak tomorrow, lol.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080925/financial_meltdown.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#151 Jim I</p>
<p>We are already 10.6 TRILLION DOLLARS in debt, with another TRILLION being tossed to Wall Street to “help” them get over their greed and bad decisions…….</p>
<p>So what is a few more Billion $ in tax rebates? Just ask your great great grand kids what they think about it………….</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>You might me happy to know that the 700 billion dollar bailout and fallen apart then&#8230;they are working late tonight to try and get it done, the market is going to freak tomorrow, lol.</p>
<p><a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080925/financial_meltdown.html" rel="nofollow">http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080925/financial_meltdown.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim I</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are already 10.6 TRILLION DOLLARS in debt, with another TRILLION being tossed to Wall Street to &quot;help&quot; them get over their greed and bad decisions.......

So what is a few more Billion $ in tax rebates?  Just ask your great great grand kids what they think about it.............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are already 10.6 TRILLION DOLLARS in debt, with another TRILLION being tossed to Wall Street to &#8220;help&#8221; them get over their greed and bad decisions&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>So what is a few more Billion $ in tax rebates?  Just ask your great great grand kids what they think about it&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: JonP.</title>
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		<dc:creator>JonP.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry,

&quot;BTW, It was good of you to disclose that your brother is a Chevy dealer.&quot;

&amp; My dad is the used car manager at a VW store. Your point?

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As i&#039;ve already stated i drive an 06 accord
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&quot;Whatever. As someone else pointed out, your comparison of an Accord to the Volt is an apples to oranges comparison anyway. The volt is closer to an electric Civic.&quot;

Why because their similar in size? 

A Porsche is similar in size to a kia rio, so is an audi a4 to a civic.
Obviously those are extremes, but my point is size is not that important. 

My original reason for using the accord is because that&#039;s what i drive. In my mind for an extra $75 a month and a few inches of legroom. I can drive a car that runs on little to no gas, has 10 times the interior features/technology, will cost a 1/4 to maintain, and run twice as long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry,</p>
<p>&#8220;BTW, It was good of you to disclose that your brother is a Chevy dealer.&#8221;</p>
<p>&amp; My dad is the used car manager at a VW store. Your point?</p>
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<p>As i&#8217;ve already stated i drive an 06 accord<br />
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<p>&#8220;Whatever. As someone else pointed out, your comparison of an Accord to the Volt is an apples to oranges comparison anyway. The volt is closer to an electric Civic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why because their similar in size? </p>
<p>A Porsche is similar in size to a kia rio, so is an audi a4 to a civic.<br />
Obviously those are extremes, but my point is size is not that important. </p>
<p>My original reason for using the accord is because that&#8217;s what i drive. In my mind for an extra $75 a month and a few inches of legroom. I can drive a car that runs on little to no gas, has 10 times the interior features/technology, will cost a 1/4 to maintain, and run twice as long.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#143 Jerry - I think S3478 is it.  These numbers match the article.  (HR 6899 does not.)

Senate 3478
SEC. 30D. NEW QUALIFIED PLUG -IN ELECTRIC DRIVE MOTOR VEHICLES .

      `(a) Allowance of Credit-

            `(1) IN GENERAL- There shall be allowed as a credit against the tax imposed by this chapter for the taxable year an amount equal to the applicable amount with respect to each new qualified plug -in electric drive motor vehicle placed in service by the taxpayer during the taxable year.

            `(2) APPLICABLE AMOUNT- For purposes of paragraph (1), the applicable amount is sum of--

                  `(A) $2,500, plus

                  `(B) $400 for each kilowatt hour of traction battery capacity in excess of 6 kilowatt hours.

      `(b) Limitations-

            `(1) LIMITATION BASED ON WEIGHT- The amount of the credit allowed under subsection (a) by reason of subsection (a)(2) shall not exceed--

                  `(A) $7,500, in the case of any new qualified plug -in electric drive motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of not more than 10,000 pounds,

                  `(B) $10,000, in the case of any new qualified plug -in electric drive motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 10,000 pounds but not more than 14,000 pounds,

                  `(C) $12,500, in the case of any new qualified plug -in electric drive motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 14,000 pounds but not more than 26,000 pounds, and

                  `(D) $15,000, in the case of any new qualified plug -in electric drive motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 26,000 pounds.

            `(2) LIMITATION ON NUMBER OF PASSENGER VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS ELIGIBLE FOR CREDIT-

                  `(A) IN GENERAL- In the case of a new qualified plug -in electric drive motor vehicle sold during the phaseout period, only the applicable percentage of the credit otherwise allowable under subsection (a) shall be allowed.

                  `(B) PHASEOUT PERIOD- For purposes of this subsection, the phaseout period is the period beginning with the second calendar quarter following the calendar quarter which includes the first date on which the total number of such new qualified plug -in electric drive motor vehicles sold for use in the United States after December 31, 2007, is at least 250,000.

                  `(C) APPLICABLE PERCENTAGE- For purposes of subparagraph (A), the applicable percentage is--

                        `(i) 50 percent for the first 2 calendar quarters of the phaseout period,

                        `(ii) 25 percent for the 3d and 4th calendar quarters of the phaseout period, and

                        `(iii) 0 percent for each calendar quarter thereafter.

                  `(D) CONTROLLED GROUPS- Rules similar to the rules of section 30B(f)(4) shall apply for purposes of this subsection.

      `(c) New Qualified Plug -In Electric Drive Motor Vehicle- For purposes of this section, the term `new qualified plug -in electric drive motor vehicle&#039; means a motor vehicle--

            `(1) which draws propulsion primarily using a traction battery with at least 6 kilowatt hours of capacity,

            `(2) which uses an offboard source of energy to recharge such battery,

            `(3) which, in the case of a passenger vehicle or light truck which has a gross vehicle weight rating of not more than 8,500 pounds, has received a certificate of conformity under the Clean Air Act and meets or exceeds the equivalent qualifying California low emission vehicle standard under section 243(e)(2) of the Clean Air Act for that make and model year . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#143 Jerry &#8211; I think S3478 is it.  These numbers match the article.  (HR 6899 does not.)</p>
<p>Senate 3478<br />
SEC. 30D. NEW QUALIFIED PLUG -IN ELECTRIC DRIVE MOTOR VEHICLES .</p>
<p>      `(a) Allowance of Credit-</p>
<p>            `(1) IN GENERAL- There shall be allowed as a credit against the tax imposed by this chapter for the taxable year an amount equal to the applicable amount with respect to each new qualified plug -in electric drive motor vehicle placed in service by the taxpayer during the taxable year.</p>
<p>            `(2) APPLICABLE AMOUNT- For purposes of paragraph (1), the applicable amount is sum of&#8211;</p>
<p>                  `(A) $2,500, plus</p>
<p>                  `(B) $400 for each kilowatt hour of traction battery capacity in excess of 6 kilowatt hours.</p>
<p>      `(b) Limitations-</p>
<p>            `(1) LIMITATION BASED ON WEIGHT- The amount of the credit allowed under subsection (a) by reason of subsection (a)(2) shall not exceed&#8211;</p>
<p>                  `(A) $7,500, in the case of any new qualified plug -in electric drive motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of not more than 10,000 pounds,</p>
<p>                  `(B) $10,000, in the case of any new qualified plug -in electric drive motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 10,000 pounds but not more than 14,000 pounds,</p>
<p>                  `(C) $12,500, in the case of any new qualified plug -in electric drive motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 14,000 pounds but not more than 26,000 pounds, and</p>
<p>                  `(D) $15,000, in the case of any new qualified plug -in electric drive motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 26,000 pounds.</p>
<p>            `(2) LIMITATION ON NUMBER OF PASSENGER VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS ELIGIBLE FOR CREDIT-</p>
<p>                  `(A) IN GENERAL- In the case of a new qualified plug -in electric drive motor vehicle sold during the phaseout period, only the applicable percentage of the credit otherwise allowable under subsection (a) shall be allowed.</p>
<p>                  `(B) PHASEOUT PERIOD- For purposes of this subsection, the phaseout period is the period beginning with the second calendar quarter following the calendar quarter which includes the first date on which the total number of such new qualified plug -in electric drive motor vehicles sold for use in the United States after December 31, 2007, is at least 250,000.</p>
<p>                  `(C) APPLICABLE PERCENTAGE- For purposes of subparagraph (A), the applicable percentage is&#8211;</p>
<p>                        `(i) 50 percent for the first 2 calendar quarters of the phaseout period,</p>
<p>                        `(ii) 25 percent for the 3d and 4th calendar quarters of the phaseout period, and</p>
<p>                        `(iii) 0 percent for each calendar quarter thereafter.</p>
<p>                  `(D) CONTROLLED GROUPS- Rules similar to the rules of section 30B(f)(4) shall apply for purposes of this subsection.</p>
<p>      `(c) New Qualified Plug -In Electric Drive Motor Vehicle- For purposes of this section, the term `new qualified plug -in electric drive motor vehicle&#8217; means a motor vehicle&#8211;</p>
<p>            `(1) which draws propulsion primarily using a traction battery with at least 6 kilowatt hours of capacity,</p>
<p>            `(2) which uses an offboard source of energy to recharge such battery,</p>
<p>            `(3) which, in the case of a passenger vehicle or light truck which has a gross vehicle weight rating of not more than 8,500 pounds, has received a certificate of conformity under the Clean Air Act and meets or exceeds the equivalent qualifying California low emission vehicle standard under section 243(e)(2) of the Clean Air Act for that make and model year . . .</p>
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