The Chevy Volt production design car is scheduled to appear in the upcoming film Transformers2.
It turns out the vehicle has been caught by video camera on the movie set.
Unbelievable, this is the real deal folks!
This is the first time in history the public has a view of the car.
And here is the VIDEO:
Thanks to Chris N again for the tip!
Source (Transformers Movie Blog)
Aug 28th, 2008 (7:57 pm)Wow! Great looking car! I like the black roof treatment… sheet metal or glass I wonder?
It appears that the mirrors are continuing the “white” theme of the interior.
Aug 28th, 2008 (7:58 pm)Looks very unique.
Aug 28th, 2008 (7:59 pm)Ugly as all heck.
Aug 28th, 2008 (7:59 pm)Wow! Of course I’d like a closer look, but as the first impression of the overall vehicle, Wow! Great body lines. Look out Prius!
Aug 28th, 2008 (7:59 pm)I like it.
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:02 pm)Closer side look.
http://www.autobloggreen.com/photos/volt-in-transformers-2/1005132/
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:04 pm)Thats Hot!
Pay no attention to the blind man that has no taste. (#3)
Sweet Mamma!
Heads are gonna roll for this one leaking. (or is it a plan)
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:05 pm)Awesome!!
Amul #3, maybe we could gold plate it for you?
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:07 pm)Is this the Prius?
Looks smallish.
Is it an old Hardtop?
Great car I was just joking!
I am among the first 100!!!
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:08 pm)Wow. Very nice. Like they said. It isn’t like anything else on the road… except maybe a scion tC with four doors. Anyways, great looking car that will be memorable and help ensure that the electricity surrounding the production version will continue as people see it on the street. Sorry about the pun.
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:08 pm)unbelievable!! it looks FANTASTIC. does GM know about this!?
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:09 pm)I “production” car is one you can buy. Until one is for sale, they are all engineering prototypes. I absolutely guarantee that:
1) This is not a production Volt; and
2) The car will change between now and the creation of a production Volt.
A company like GM has maybe 5 prototype phases. True, the later ones start to closely resemble what will become a production model. But they’re not production.
I would guess this one is maybe 2 or 3 more prototype phases away from production.
Phrased another way, as between the automotive media and the automobile, at least one of them is evolving.
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:10 pm)yeah I was wondering about how this got out. You could tell that it was under wraps, I don’t understand how such a clear shot was obtained unless GM approved it. You don’t even see this on cars with more following than the volt.
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:12 pm)Sharp! I can definately see that Volt in my garage! Come on GM, get crank’in those things out!
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:13 pm)Matt, You have to admit though that after all of the comments about the design being finalized and seeing how well this version lines up with the pics released by GM, this is very close to a production shot. I imagine the mirrors and silver behind them may change, but who knows
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:13 pm)Is the black roof solar panels?….looks like it to me.
I even like the color… I’ll take it…..
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:13 pm)If the pics vanish from this you will know it’s trouble real fast. They had the new ZO6 pics removed from the corvette forum super fast when they leaked. Stay posted and copy them now.;)
If they stay they staged it.
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:15 pm)Whoa!!
I like it. GM – well done.
I believe I will want mine in the concept version’s steely silver color however.
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:21 pm)Deposit time!!!!!!!
Can’t deny it now, especially with the teaser shots. And remember, in Transformers Bumblebee looked remarkably close (97%) to the production version. Well, if James Bond (Brosnan & Craig) can debut new BMWs and Aston Martins then Transformers 2 is a 2 hour GM commercial. But the first movie built up so much hype for the Camaro. I guess the second one will build hype for the Volt.
Deposits down…
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:24 pm)What exactly is going on? People are applauding…that? Just exactly what part of that looks like anything special?
If that was a ’spy shot’ of the 2010 Prius I guarantee you everyone would be saying it was trash. Sometimes we really need to look at some things objectively…even if it’s not what we really, really want to believe.
We better pray that is not it. That is worse than the Chevy Cruze. That car looks like it would retail for about $15K…max. That is not a $40,000 car. That is not anything like the concept, there isn’t any shape to it…it’s a jelly bean.
Imagine that same car, but with the badge of a car company you don’t like…then critique it again, you might get a more honest reaction.
Some people need to go check the photos of what we were shown to be ‘near identical’ to production when they rolled out the concept and compare.
http://www.gm-volt.com/galleries/album/72157603653293621/photo/2172214421/Chevy-Volt-2007-Chevrolet-Volt-Concept.html
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:35 pm)Nice, I like it better than the original design.
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:40 pm)I think it looks fantastic!!!
I was wondering when pictures were going to surface of the Volt on the Transformers movie set!! I’ve been visiting this site often to read about the Volt!
This is a fantastic site also!!!!!
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:47 pm)Looks very different from the original. I don’t really care, but that’s not recognizable as the Volt we know. It also doesn’t look like a $40,000 car. It looks like a Prius with a sunroof. Will be interesting to see if that’s a thin film solar panel.
+1
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:47 pm)#20
Actually Statik it does look a lot like the photos in your link. The paint job is different, the exterior mirrors are back a bit, the hood is a little shorter but that’s about it. I’d buy it in a heart beat.
Hey gas is only $3.99 in Petaluma CA. WHAT A DEAL!!!!
+1
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:50 pm)The side shot make it look s l i p p e r y to the wind.
Yes! Good-bye Oil or how was GMs commercial to start (which they chickened out of)?
Ah yes, Dear Oil, …
OK, let’s get down to business, where to sign-up for test ride/evaluations?
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:51 pm)I would still like the one posted at the top of this web page.
Reality is these new photos show a car that looks good and does have to slice through the wind.
I’ll pay $40K to get the darn commie arab’s off our case.
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Aug 28th, 2008 (8:56 pm)i’m a fan…definintly cannot wait for it to come out…i’m said i’m 30-something thousand on the list =(
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:56 pm)Wow!
May we be blessed with victory in our war with oil.
http://www.oiljihad.org
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:58 pm)Angles and resolution are the best but beggers can’t be choosers. The shot that has a good angle is mostly blocked the bushes but what can be seen looks pretty good. I wouldn’t call this a game changing unique look but it ain’t a Prius either. Sorry Statik, a statement that this would make an unacceptable Prius design deminishes your credibility in judging other’s objectivity.
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:58 pm)absolutely awesome looking for an electric vehicle!!! this is the car that will lead the way for all future electric vehicles
and I could not be happier that it is coming from domestic general motors chevrolet!!! none better 
GO VOLT TEAM, GO!!!! 
Aug 28th, 2008 (8:59 pm)#24 Whistleteeth
“#20
Actually Statik it does look a lot like the photos in your link. The paint job is different, the exterior mirrors are back a bit, the hood is a little shorter but that’s about it. I’d buy it in a heart beat.”
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It does does it?
I will give you that they both have 4 wheels…but thats about it. The ‘production car’ shown here has big time cab forward, the front glass probably has twice the surface area as the concept. As we already know it has a completely different front end configuration…different air vents/headlights/scoupe. There is no longer any side wheel wheels or shape moulding. There is no integrated glass on those doors, as you can see in the video. There is no moonroof (as we knew). The hood is a good 2 feet shorter. It has reverse angle rear windos now like the old Prius.
Other than the icon on the side and the the somewhat unique side mirrors, there is nothing left.
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:00 pm)20 Statik: “Imagine that same car, but with the badge of a car company you don’t like…then critique it again, you might get a more honest reaction.”
I can understand some of that happening around here, but there are also die-hard fans of other car brands that will blindly buy anything made by their favorite car company. Honda and Acura comes to mind with their recent turds that they pinched off.
I think I threw up in my mouth a bit. Ew. Gross.
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:00 pm)I don’t care if it was as ugly as a Prius. As long as it doesn’t burn gas…I’m all for it!
Rashiid @ 3, perhaps it’s the purple paint?
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:01 pm)Hhhmmm… I can’t cay I’m sold with the look from overhead shots but the profile pic looks sharp.
The movie clip where the guy opens the door makes the door look kinda small (whole car looks smallish really). I hope I won’t have transform my body too much to get in and out of it.
I think the final mirrors will be a little more integrated inot the body for more aero than the car in the movie.
But THAT is hands down the color I want my Volt to come it. That blue almost matches my 2005 Yamaha FZ1
Overall I think I give it a 7 out of 10. It it moves like a bat outta hell I’ll bump it up to an 8. If it is spaceioue on the inside I’ll give it a 9. And if I can afford it I’ll give it a 9.256 LOL…..
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:04 pm)I think that it looks nice and sleek, especially the profile shot. I expect that when clear pictures are released it will look even better, since we’ll be able to see the details like the crease in the side of the body that was visible on the GM teaser pics.
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:07 pm)Well, I for one was excited about the Volt and was going to purchase one or 2 for the wife and I. However after seeing these photos, I’m out. It is really ugly and I guess we were wishing for a good looking car. I would sacrifice at least 5 mile range for looks. Please remove me from the waiting list. Front end is nothing close to the concept (which I loved) and the rear looks like crap. Thanks for the ride.
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:09 pm)It looks good, but I honestly don’t know why there’s so much fuss about how it looks. If it will help keep terrorists from being able to blow us up, I don’t really care what it looks like. If it can keep us from sending $700 Billion a year to countries that are hostile towards the U.S., it doesn’t have to be cute.
But hey, I like the color of the Volt in the spy photo…
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:10 pm)#29 koz
” I wouldn’t call this a game changing unique look but it ain’t a Prius either. Sorry Statik, a statement that this would make an unacceptable Prius design deminishes your credibility in judging other’s objectivity.”
Hehe…I expect to get ‘alot of flames’ on this thread. This is the first of the threads that have to be defended at all costs by those who have their whole heart solely into this EV project.
I can take it. I don’t think it does diminish my credibility at all. This is the hardest time to stand up and be counted. But time will tell. The next gen Prius has yet to be ‘leaked’ other than a few shots of the 09 refresh. We will see what the reaction here is to that…I personally don’t think it has to go far to compete with this, and I doubt this particular forum will be receptive to just about any incarnation we might see.
Also, this forum has a specific bias, which I would expect being fan site specific. We will see over the next few days what the mainstream press have to say about it compared to the concept.
+1
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:15 pm)#33 Dave B
“I don’t care if it was as ugly as a Prius. As long as it doesn’t burn gas…I’m all for it!”
This is a good point.
I should clarify my stance on this. I detest what they have done to the car I love, but as long as it is the first one out the door, I’m still going to buy one…even at 40K.
If this was the car they showed in 2007, I still would have said, “that car is not bad looking, but it’s a EV and has 4 seats, sign me up”
….I don’t want to sound like I’m am just ‘poo-pooing’ and telling people to run for the hills in horror, lol
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:19 pm)The news sure is coming fast and furious these days. What’s going on?
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:23 pm)#33 Dave B
“I don’t care if it was as ugly as a Prius. As long as it doesn’t burn gas…I’m all for it!”
I totally agree with you there. ( I have a son that has done 1 tour in Iraq and is now currently in Afghanistan)
HOWEVER, to be successful it’s going to have to get the attention of everyone (The Heartbeat of America). Being ugly up front and stubby in the back isn’t going to impress many. This isn’t europe for christs sake.
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:30 pm)I personally like it, but I don’t care what it looks like, I’d be buying it for what it can DO.
Why is the roof a different color then the rest? Is it the much-speculated solar-panel, a removable sunroof, or just a different color for no reason at all? Can anyone tell? We had an old X1-9 that had a similar look, the whole roof popped off and stored under the hood (the engine was in the rear).
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:32 pm)@Statik #38
“Also, this forum has a specific bias”
Listen, the fans of this site aren’t just thinking about a car. If they are anything like me then they are looking toward the future while keeping an eye on the past. I have been seeing nothing but darkness and evil for along time. I keep running the equation, billions of US dollars going over seas to counties who’s population hate us, through my head and guess what…..it doesn’t make sense. Then I focus on our government and how little they do to fix this problem. The hum hawing around that is done day in and out over the situation. When a simple answer can be seen…..stop using oil, replace it with the multitude of alternatives that we have at our disposal. The idea that our entire economic structure is in the hands of our enemies…..scared the holy ghost straight out of me. So, if you want to call me bias then go ahead but fact is an American company is trying to turn it’s direction around. It is trying to do something big and make a change for the better. I don’t know if they see this as a service that could, in time, be for the better good of our country or not. They have to know that it’s possible and I’m behind them 100%. I guess you could say I am with the rest of the bias opinions around here when I say….I don’t give a sheeeottt what it looks like….if it can get us off of foreign gasoline dependency. Now, instead of all that darkness, I see a slight glow out there in that harsh world……and I don’t care what shape it transforms into.
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:33 pm)Two Great News for the day.
Prod Volt Photos and almost hitting 40000.
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:36 pm)ZENN motors makes an EV with competitive looks. Sorry for being so negative but I had this huge bubble blowing up the past 6 months only to have it completely deflated tonight.
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:37 pm)I’m on the fence with this one. I’m not either overly excited or turned off with the styling shown in this video and pictures. But, styling has never been #1 priority with me even though it is high on my priority list. EV range & total range are far more important.
Perhaps the Volt styling is as #12 Matt P said – “I would guess this one is maybe 2 or 3 more prototype phases away from production.”
I’m going to wait for the official GM unveiling to make any further judgments.
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:39 pm)Ok, maybe I’m seeing things. The profile shot, when looking at the driver position of the car, it appears to have a sunroof, but also look back along the inside of the roof (ceiling) of the car. Doesn’t it look as if a chunk of the roof is a darker glass or some transparent covering. The palm tree fronds don’t line up, but they don’t line up in the sunroof to match the palm tree because of the angle we are seeing in the sunroof and back transparent panel…. does this make sense…anyone else see it? The side profile when looking at the ceiling indicates that most of the roof has transparent panels. ???
Not a clear polycarbonate roof but something similar?
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:43 pm)#43 everything.imp
I respect your opinion on the subject, everyone’s got one after all, hehe. Everyone is going to have very specific reaction to this car and for alot of different reasons.
And to tell you the truth, we are both still going to more than likely buy this car regardless…maybe for different reasons, but same end result.
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:46 pm)Good job Mr. Boniface, it looks better than I was expecting.
Then again, it could look like the Aztek and I’d still buy it (if I could afford it).
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:48 pm)It’s hard to tell what a car looks like from the street when seeing it from the top. I’ve seen a prototype volt from a shot from above and this still has some of that look. I own a prius and I have no preference for any company based on emotion, unlike many other people (who get attached to a company) and this is much better looking than the prius. I also don’t think the prius is ugly, but just that if this is the production volt, it is better looking and more trendy and it will sell.
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:48 pm)I love it!!! I was a little worried what it would look like and am now pleasently surprised. Great job GM.
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:51 pm)Statik:
If you don’t like it I guess you have no reason to keep posting on this site. It is funny how people keep saying how they are not going to buy the car for what ever reason …but for some reason keep coming back to this site and sounding interested.
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:53 pm)Sweet! An electric car that actually looks cool. Some very positive news lately…looking forward to owning one.
BTW, any of you who also ride motorcycles – “Zero” motorcycles plans to have a street legal dual-sport motorcycle out soon, which would make a nice “sister vehicle” to the Volt. It’s motocross bike is apparently doing well already. Check it out at: http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/
Imagine having the Volt and the Zero Dualsport in the garage…One could avoid gas stations for months!
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:54 pm)I think the angles are tough to really judge the styling from…clearly this is the car that will appear in the movie though!
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:59 pm)I LOVE it!!!!!!!!! I like it much more than the concept. I fell in love with the concept and this really doesnt remind me of it, but I have already fallen in love with this one! I really like the color too.
Aug 28th, 2008 (9:59 pm)I’m glad that Kevin, Amul, and Statik hate it. More Volts for me!
Seriously though, how the hell can anyone be so critical from these shots? You can’t even see the whole car from a normal viewing angle.
I’m wondering if the whole roof is still translucent. In the side view it looks like it might be. I like the translucent concept, and tinting/mirroring the roof should help reduce or eliminate the greenhouse affect that would otherwise be a concern.
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:01 pm)Maybe in the movie (first Transformers movie was very entertaining, IMO) the Volt can transform into a robot that blows a Prius Transformer into smithereens…LOL.
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:02 pm)#41, Thank you son for his comittment to his country, it is very much appreciated.
Now for the car. I think it looks good. The concept was too angular to be a mileage champ. The Prius looks like a Prius because it places aerodynamics above all else to achieve the car’s designed goal, maximum fuel economy. If the Volt looks similar that is a good thing for two reasons: 1, Similar aerodynamics means a similar low drag body, 2, A unique body that screams “I’m Green” may help it sell.
The Prius outsells the Honda Civic hybrid 4 to 1 because the Honda Civic Hybrid looks like a,,,,, Honda Civic standard. There is nothing unique about it to get people to spend 3000.00 extra on it. The Prius is a status symbol for a greenie the way a BMW is a status symbol for a yuppie. I just hope the Volt catches on with the green crowd and they overlook that it is made by an American manufacturer. I’m not slamming GM by saying that but I’ll tell you right now, there are millions of people on the left that refuse to buy American even if they like the car because they would face riducule and criticism from their peers. I have seen it over and over. I was a piriah at my company in Suburban Chicago for driving a Saturn. Lets hope the hollywood crowd that slammed GM for crushing the EV-1 (big mistake on GM’s part) will warm up and buy the Volt in large numbers.
I did notice the Volt pictured here has big, Big BIG!! wheels which makes it look very appealing.
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:04 pm)It’s as ugly as all get out, but I’d still support it because of the technology and the fact that is is not a foregin owned company. Depending on the price, I’d still buy it.
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:06 pm)Oh boy, where is that partially chew’d lithium battery….
Where are the door handles?
Watch the video as they take the cover off of the car. As soon as the cover is removed, don’t watch the cover being removed, watch the drivers side door. You’ll see a sliver of dark appear then a guy walks up and grabs the edge of the car door to open it…. anyone see that?
(chew, chew chew) Looks like the car door popped open remotely. (chew chew…) anyone else see it…??
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:11 pm)#37
I couldnt agree more. Most of us on the wait list arent buying it because its a “sharp car” but rather because it doesnt require arab gold to run (at least for 40 miles). I am more interested in finding out more on the technical aspects of the vehicle. Granted, if I fork down 40k I would appreciate at least some agressive styling interior and exterior, and the features that come in a premium car (leather, nav, hid (or led) lights, etc.)
With that said, 7.5 out of 10 on looks for me. Its not horrid like the dook on wheels prius, but its not a BMW M6 either…
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:11 pm)I like those tailights. (Red LED)
Low Profile windows (like Chrysler 300) and tires (possible stiff ride)
Looks like color changing glass roof (I would have preferred a lightweight aluminum)
Aerodynamic side mirrors. (Preferred No Mirrors just hidden cameras all around with inside display)
Looks like it might be narrower in rear than front (like EV1).
Small (slightly bigger than Honda Civic but much bigger than EV1)
Overall Impression: Not Bad for a 4-door SEDAN (its not supposed to be sports car folks)
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:17 pm)#28 “May Arabia and Persia be liberated from the tyranny of oil and gas, and return to life as it was before their discovery. ”
Yes. Let those bast**ds implode upon themselves in a new era of “no demand” for their oil. They didn’t build anything. They didn’t create anything. They didn’t find a solution to anything. They didn’t cure a disease or fix a problem. They have done nothing, and contributed nothing, to the world, except tyranny, war, destruction, violence, terrorism, and oppression.
Their royal families just rape the earth of its natural resources, and profit immensely from it. While at the same time, oppressing their subjects to a life of poverty and filth.
Why is it just fine with environmentalists to have massive drilling and oil extraction from the middle east and other parts of the world, but to have it off the coast of Santa Barbara or in a small portion of the wasteland of Alaska, absolutely intolerable….? If you’re an environmentalist, doesn’t that mean that you care about the WORLD environment? If you care about the toxic SF Bay with its oozing-sore striped bass, then don’t you care about the e-coli filled Mediterranean sea? The deserts of Arizona? The deserts of Iran?
But I digress, and apologize in advance to those who are easily offended by wandering-topic posts.
At least we are all enthusiastic about the Volt! (well most of us).
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:19 pm)I am sorry, but I’ve got to join the list of those who are totally unimpressed. Of course I will reserve ultimate judgement until I can see it unveiled and up close. What disappoints me is, why can we not have the best of both worlds? I want both style and efficiency and, quite frankly, am not going to shell out that kind of money until I can have both.That car looks stubby and generic. I would gladly sacrifice those 5 miles to have the original concept design (Which I absolutely love BTW). If I had a choice of the production model with electricity or the concept with a big honkin V-8, I would choose the concept with the big V-8. Call me what you want, but I like what I like. I just wish we could have both, instead of one or the other. Frankly, that car is ugly.
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:20 pm)Home run out of the park cool!!! Love it!!!
Nice color too, what a hook up Chevy’s got with T-2. Love it!!!
Rock and Roll Cool!!!
Like I’ve said here many times -Two please and maybe one in that awesome blue!!!
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:22 pm)…and does anyone recall the item, on this blog, which asked us to pick the color we most wanted? Does anyone recall what color was the clear winner?
Did anyone notice the color chosen for this car???
At the other end of the spectrum, I hope HOPE HOPE that that glass top isn’t a transparent roof. Think SOLAR HEATER for a car that could well have cooling challenges in sunny climes (like mine). Hopefully, it’s merely the covering for a solar panel.
And yes, you can’t really get a complete aesthetic assessment from overhead. I was pleased with what I could see.
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:23 pm)I think the car looks fantastic, the lines and interior design are modern,stylish and fresh. It’s going be a huge hit for GM!
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:26 pm)I want this car!!!
And blue is my favourite colour!
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:32 pm)When did they get Palm trees in Detroit ?
Oh man, that must be Hollyweird. I bet that Volt is a slightly modified movie version. Those wheels don’t look right.
The only really new feature I notice was, as previously mentioned, SHAVED DOORS (no handles).
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:32 pm)This is so tantalizing, just enough to make you want to see more, a lot more. I particularly like the shot from behind to berm.
gime more, gime more
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:44 pm)THe grille on this car doesn’t look at all like the one we saw in the sneak peak last week. That one had a honey comb faux grille. This one seems to have a more conventional Chevy grille.
I don’t think the back look much like the ones GM showed us last week eiiher.
My guess is that this is some sort of hypothetical “future” Volt that was put together for the movie.
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:45 pm)Check out the tires on the side angle shot – all you see is wheel. I bet those are not going to be cheap tires to replace!
Overall, I like it alot better than the concept, to be honest.
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:45 pm)I luv this car. I am going to order a fleet of Volts to be used to deliver my wonderful pizzas. My partner Luigi loves this car also. I know what you are thinking, NO we were never plumbers that inspired a video game that shall remain nameless.
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:47 pm)Geeez, so much about appearance ….
Long time ago we were told that the concept car has aerodnamics of a brick! Of course, the eventual design must be different, even substanitally different. There is a single basic shape for low CD. You can have many variations, but the basic shape remain the same.
At the end of the day are you paying $40K for electric propulsion or the appearance. I am thinking that there are many other nice or better looking cars being sold for $40K today and without a wait lists.
90% of the folks here put the 1st priority on electric drive and battery. So Statik and others dissapointed by the actual appearance, well you are a minority.
Regarding CD and claims like “I would give up 5 miles, or X CD for better looks”, it doesn’t work that way. At some point above 40mph the CD starts to have a substantial impact on energy consumption. Therefore, when you drive at highways speeds, 60-70 mph, then the range might be cut in half for the sake of a good appearance.
The fact is that cars use a lot of energy so engineers in every car company work very hard to get the maximum utility from the limited battery capacity. That means CD always wins over the appearance, within the reason of course. Otherwise who is going to pay $40K for a car with a 20 mile electric range?!?! Even the 40 mile range is no that exciting.
So forget the looks and be thankful they still managed to make it look nice enough to turn heads. Besides silent drive and zero emissions alone will turn even more heads.
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:52 pm)#71 – I actually think that the front and rear look exactly like both the official shots and those that have leaked of the front and rear (as seen in this thread: http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1289). I think that the grille only looks different because of the height and low quality of the pics. The only real difference from the earlier pics is in the exterior mirrors (and the much larger Volt logo!).
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:52 pm)All the naysayers are just so clazy. You want style, buy a eflex Caddie. You want something that looks like a roadster buy a Tesla. If you can afford a honking v8 then buy that. After all this is America, you can buy what you want and burn the flag on Veterans Day.
But its the eflex design thats the game changer, not the outer body. The plan is to get Americans off oil, not to build cars that appeal to only a few.
The Boeing 787 is soon to launch and its design is to save jet fuel and make flying more affordable, not to look pretty.
A Chevy Volt close to generic design but high end quality looks great to me. Americans have been buying million of Toyotas for years that look generic.
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:52 pm)I’ve got to say that I don’t think the angles or color in these shots do much for it, especially the top-down shots. From the side, I think it looks pretty good, and it’ll feel pretty good driving to work and back sans Opec.
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:52 pm)Oh My Gawd, what have those bastards done to my car !, I am going to have a talk with that Mr. Lutz and give him a piece of my mind. Ooooh NO, this just won’t do. I am going to need some pills to sleep tonight. This is my worst nightmare. Shame on you GM. My dream car has been ruined.
Aug 28th, 2008 (10:56 pm)Is there a post between the side windows ?
Aug 28th, 2008 (11:00 pm)Ed M #78
With that plexiglass roof and for rollover strength there almost has to be. It looks though like it’s camouflaged in with the tinted windows.
Aug 28th, 2008 (11:09 pm)I wonder what it would look like in white. Probably like a pimped out Police Cruiser.
Aug 28th, 2008 (11:12 pm)Statik
I agree that while it takes some cues from the concept car it’s not that close to it. On the other hand I was ambivalent about the concept. I liked it and it was attention grabbing, but perhaps too aggressive for the target demographic. This one seems better. Still distinctive but not as aggressive (remember I have an Aptera on order so my attention grabbing quotient is oversubscribed as it is).
A different color scheme and lighting may also change the look. The black roof, dark windows, and dark blue body, together with the low res and low light shot, erased the detail making it blob like. We’ll have to see.
In case your pessimistic self — “they’ll never hit the deadlines” — missed this from the last thread, Talks cited an interview with Maximum Bob which reads in part: “The actual production of production vehicles may be earlier,” Lutz said. So now we have a fleet of vehicles on the road in 2009 and production may be moved up slightly. (Arch also has some interesting cites as well).
On a different note, I’m assuming you’ve seen that Chrysler is selling off the Viper operations …
Aug 28th, 2008 (11:13 pm)Every new development brings us closer to the day when we can actually by an E-REV. You lusters of physical beauty will never be satisfied. Beauty comes from within. Beauty endures. I will love my Volt for more than her outward appearance. I want her to bear my children.
Edit: Whoops! I got carried away.
Aug 28th, 2008 (11:14 pm)I love it! We need a poll to get everyone’s votes down.
Aug 28th, 2008 (11:18 pm)If that is a standard-width parking lot space, the Volt is much narrower car than I expected. I assumed it was going to following design queues from the new Camaro and have a wider stance. This car is skinny.
Aug 28th, 2008 (11:20 pm)Kevin Says:
August 28th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Well, I for one was excited about the Volt and was going to purchase one or 2 for the wife and I. However after seeing these photos, I’m out. It is really ugly and I guess we were wishing for a good looking car. I would sacrifice at least 5 mile range for looks. Please remove me from the waiting list. Front end is nothing close to the concept (which I loved) and the rear looks like crap. Thanks for the ride.
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Goodbye!
Maybe the serious ones of us can move on up the list now.
If you looked at the leaked pics for months and months and did not see that the front end would be different, then you must be one heck of a deluded gentlefellow.
Aug 28th, 2008 (11:24 pm)Holy crap, it’s gorgeous! No wait… that orange car with the black racing stripe in the video is actually a 2009 Camaro (?). Once I got to the end of the video and saw the Volt I was less impressed. But this is about the technology, people! The aerodynamics will require some aesthetic sacrifices.
Aug 28th, 2008 (11:25 pm)Statik Says:
August 28th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
#33 Dave B
“I don’t care if it was as ugly as a Prius. As long as it doesn’t burn gas…I’m all for it!”
This is a good point.
I should clarify my stance on this. I detest what they have done to the car I love, but as long as it is the first one out the door, I’m still going to buy one…even at 40K.
If this was the car they showed in 2007, I still would have said, “that car is not bad looking, but it’
s a EV and has 4 seats, sign me up”
….I don’t want to sound like I’m am just ‘poo-pooing’ and telling people to run for the hills in horror, lol
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This is the problem when non-car enthusiasts flood a forum like this.
Anybody who was ever really into cars could look at the concept and tell you exactly what would make it and what would not.
You don’t get “something for nothing”.
GM NEVER promised the car would look exactly like the concept. NEVER. You had a NONSENSE expectation, and now you are predictably disappointed.
(The concept was nasty-looking anyways. That is something that is unpopular to say!)
Aug 28th, 2008 (11:25 pm)From the side shot it looks like the roof is mostly glass. The top view seems to have super heavy tinting. Maybe with electrochromatic tinting like on the Boeing 787. I like the car but I’m not a fan of aggresive styling. I drive a Ranger. Yeah.
I’d like to propose a marketing slogan. “RECONNECT”. Works on a few levels.
1 – reconnect with the plug, yeah that’s obvious
2 – reconnect with the driving experience. Quiet drive, all glass, sweet.
3 – reconnect with the environment, yada yada
4 – reconnect with Chevy, the American Car.
Aug 28th, 2008 (11:29 pm)Even my dog thinks its butt ugly. He is now licking his behind to get the bad taste out of his mouth.
Aug 28th, 2008 (11:31 pm)Kevin Says:
August 28th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
ZENN motors makes an EV with competitive looks. Sorry for being so negative but I had this huge bubble blowing up the past 6 months only to have it completely deflated tonight.
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What?!!!
ZENN:
http://www.gm-volt.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/zenn.jpg
Get a load if this insanity! That thing is better-looking than a Volt?!!?!
Some people here need some serious sleep. The car is stressing people out! They’re losing their minds!
(“Competitive looks!”)
Aug 28th, 2008 (11:33 pm)Jimmy Says:
August 28th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Statik:
If you don’t like it I guess you have no reason to keep posting on this site. It is funny how people keep saying how they are not going to buy the car for what ever reason …but for some reason keep coming back to this site and sounding interested.
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Since people here love a conspiracy anyways, Statik is probably a Toyota operative or something.
Aug 28th, 2008 (11:35 pm)Well, it looks like this really is a legit picture and video of the production Volt! Why? Well, I tried downloading the video, and it is already unavailable. Technical difficulties, or a very fast GM legal team going after it? Less than an hour online. Very fast indeed. I am sure a few sites will have it posted online soon though.
Genie is out of the bottle, unfortunately for GM.
Aug 28th, 2008 (11:36 pm)For a small car it looks like a pretty long wheelbase, usually that gives a more big car ride.
Maximum Bob does it again.
+1
Aug 28th, 2008 (11:37 pm)lookin’ alright, i’m sure its pimped out a bit more than normal with the tinted windows, but i mean its next to the crazy looking sports cars in the video. I was worried it was going to be too sedate and plain, with nice wheels and the roof, it looks pretty good
I like that two tone look with the black roof, gives it a nice sporty look. I do wonder if that is a sunroof in the bottom picture, but don’t see the lines on the top, could it just be a close-able shade kind of thing on top, i’m sure that keeps drag down
to those of you who hate the look, luckily this is the first of many electric cars once the Volt leads the way, so you’ll have your day. Plus fuzzy pictures can’t be great for everybody’s first impression of the volt
can’t please ‘em all just most
Aug 28th, 2008 (11:47 pm)John #87
I’ve always wondered whether some people were actually kidding themselves into believing they wanted an EV just because of the looks of the concept. If that’s true for some, I don’t know why they don’t just plunk their money down on the new Camaro. They’ll be married to Opec, but it seems in the end they’ll get what they really wanted.
Aug 28th, 2008 (11:47 pm)I really like it. I really didn’t care for the concept volt as far as real world use was concerned. This looks much more usable. I really hope the back is like the prius, as the hatchback is incredibly functional.
GM has a real winner here, can’t way to pay them for mine.
Aug 28th, 2008 (11:52 pm)I wish it were in my garage now!
It’s not the hottest thing on the road, but it’s much better looking than I thought it would be. I’d be proud to own one.
Aug 29th, 2008 (12:00 am)______________________________________________________
Great job VOLT design team!!!
I VERY much like the looks of the VOLT (per the above Transformers set video link). I would without hesitation choose the production VOLT in the above video over the original concept VOLT if both designs were available to me.
The VOLT is going to be an absolute home run for GM.
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Aug 29th, 2008 (12:01 am)Right…
I guess we will just have to learn to love it…..
It will never be a muscle car, why do they pretend?
Aug 29th, 2008 (12:02 am)[...] promised myself that the next car I bought would be a real electric production car. Is this my next car? More importantly, can I afford it? Likely not, but that’s not the issue here. Pictures and [...]
Aug 29th, 2008 (12:09 am)#99 bruce g
If the Volt proves successful, I have no doubt there will be a sports car edition (aka Tesla Killa) that descends from this car. Be on the lookout for SON OF VOLT.
Aug 29th, 2008 (12:10 am)GREAAAT NEWS.
That looks so different than any Chevy product ever.
Which means, Chevy can finally attract new buyers, like myself, who were embarrassed to even rent from Avis for fear of being stuck in a Lumina, Impala, Baretta, ugh. Thank you Bob Lutz, for not making Chevy blow so much. You are my hero.
This car is actually sexy.
Aug 29th, 2008 (12:16 am)After watching the vid. This car definitely does not have four wheel steering. It is going to be a real mutha to parallel park this baby.
Aug 29th, 2008 (12:18 am)The wheels jut out a little. I thought they’d be smooth for aero’s sake.
Aug 29th, 2008 (12:20 am)I am liking this ride.
My brother from another mother likes it too.
My sister from another mister likes her some Volt.
Aug 29th, 2008 (12:21 am)[...] promised myself that the next car I bought would be a real electric production vehicle. Is this my next automobile? More importantly, can I afford it? Likely not, but that’s not the issue here. Photos and info [...]
Aug 29th, 2008 (12:24 am)So much for the Volt having some kind of exterior styling advantage. I hope it is ugly just because it is “blinged up” for transformers, but to my eye it is not an overly attractive car. Certainly nothing that would put it ahead of what we have seen of the Prius or Honda’s GSH.
Aug 29th, 2008 (12:34 am)A lot of people here, complaining about those who are NOT impressed by disrespecting their valid opinions, are REALLY missing the point they are making.
I have no comment at all yet. Other than my head hurts and I’m going to bed. Good night.
Aug 29th, 2008 (12:37 am)cool looking car !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aug 29th, 2008 (12:40 am)#81 Don C
“In case your pessimistic self — “they’ll never hit the deadlines” — missed this from the last thread, Talks cited an interview with Maximum Bob which reads in part: “The actual production of production vehicles may be earlier,” Lutz said. So now we have a fleet of vehicles on the road in 2009 and production may be moved up slightly. (Arch also has some interesting cites as well).
On a different note, I’m assuming you’ve seen that Chrysler is selling off the Viper operations …
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Yeah, I seen the selling off of the Viper ditty, I posted a link about it a few thread back actually.
As for the ‘hitting deadlines,’ while this may actually be a ‘functional production-esque Volt,’ although I wager it is not. The initial timeline was to have a working prototype by the end of 2007, so…deadline missed.
http://gm-volt.com/2007/03/06/gm-reiterates-2010-target-launch-date/
Aug 29th, 2008 (12:45 am)I’m with curt. I want an EV but I’m not willing to do without performance and at least some style. It also has to fit me and the major sloping windshield that it looks to have in the pictures worries me. I don’t fit in most cars (most are too short seat to roof or have too little windshield rise to see out safely) and I hope to fit in this one.
Aug 29th, 2008 (12:48 am)With all these buyers dropping out, maybe I can move up the list!
I miss the hood of the concept, but I love the NO GAS feature. Ok, maybe a gallon every month or two! I’m buying it for what it does more than what it looks like!
GO GM, GO VOLT for 2010!
Aug 29th, 2008 (12:48 am)Woow hoow,
well I for one like it, I would have liked it to have more of a hatch back than a coupe look (more Flexstream like) at the rear. But it will look even better with huge decals on the side “Powered by electrons”, like I’m planning to put on mine.
Aug 29th, 2008 (1:04 am)Friggin outstanding. One of the days we’ve been waiting for. Can’t wait for the full production tests. Bring on the powertrain!
Unrelated topic: Anybody else think Chrysler should electrify the Viper?
Aug 29th, 2008 (1:08 am)Definitely not final production. Careful viewing shows the rear is diff from GM’s released pics. Volt badge is different. Detail is different. Not even a 3rd brake light on this car.
Opened door looked awful thin for a $40K car. Tires too thin. Something is not right here.
There is still hope………
Aug 29th, 2008 (1:10 am)#87 john (in response to me)
This is the problem when non-car enthusiasts flood a forum like this.
Anybody who was ever really into cars could look at the concept and tell you exactly what would make it and what would not.
You don’t get “something for nothing”.
GM NEVER promised the car would look exactly like the concept. NEVER. You had a NONSENSE expectation, and now you are predictably disappointed.
(The concept was nasty-looking anyways. That is something that is unpopular to say!)
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Non car enthusiast? Flood the forum? Seems a bit over the top.
I realize GM never predicted EXACLTY like the concept, as I have stated more than a few times, but we were lead to believe it would be VERY close. Here is a quote,
Mr. Zielinski (Chief Engineer of the Volt ) noted the enthusiastic response the concept vehicle appearance has gotten, more than GM expected, and he plans to keep it as close to that appearance as possible. They are testing a variety of materials in the structure of car to balance out weight and function as much as possible.
http://gm-volt.com/2007/06/07/gm-volt-exclusive-part-2-interviews-with-nick-zielinski-chief-vehicle-engineer-of-the-volt-and-gary-smyth-director-powertrain-systems/
Last year when mentioning the Volt redesign, saying it was 90% complete, the only mention of changes was this:
“He (Lutz) noted that the exterior design is 90% complete but that the final product will likely have a more subdued or less aggressive front-end”
http://gm-volt.com/2007/07/04/bob-lutz-interview-on-design/
One more, “He (Zielinksi) noted that GM if very pleased with the public appeal the car has and will try to keep the final production model as true to form to the prototype as is possible” in Aug 2007
http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/09/exclusive-interviewpodcast-with-chevy-volt-chief-engineer-on-current-state-of-volt-development/
Ok, one more:
“The Volt, is meant to be differnent. Not frumpy, but camaro-esque, and bold-grilled, with its unique glass dropped into the doors and windows up high.”
http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/02/green-car-design-and-the-volt/
I could find you another dozen links just like those…and NOT one that says the production vehicle will be a significant change from the concept. So yeah, my expectations were that it should be pretty close to what we saw. I don’t think I was expecting anything more than I was lead to believe.
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#91 John
“Since people here love a conspiracy anyways, Statik is probably a Toyota operative or something.”
/over the top
Side note on your: “The concept was nasty-looking anyways. That is something that is unpopular to say!”…hrm, not really now that this ‘probably production’ car is out. I’d say that would be the company line now.
It would have been the ‘unpopular’ thing before we started going throught the ‘dumbing down’ expectations phase of the last few months leading up to this. I don’t suppose you have a link to a older post on the site that might show you had that negative opinion before you seen this? I’d be interested to see that.
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/this is a action thread!
//see you tomorrow
Aug 29th, 2008 (1:16 am)#88 Cautious Fan
Could be a future in marketing. I like your “Reconnect” idea.
Aug 29th, 2008 (1:34 am)I like what I see so far but I better get see one in person at the Dallas Car Show next year. It doesn’t have to be the final production car. I’ve been selling the Volt ‘concept’ to family, friends, co-workers, customers and total strangers for awhile and they’re all ready to get me drug tested. Just a small picture of me standing next to the Volt will save me from having to pee in a cup.
If GM really thinks they have a winner in the Volt they need to take my deposit. Now, not later. Confidence breeds confidence.
You people ahead of me on the waiting list go ahead and drop out if you want to. I’ll be more than happy to move up in line.
Aug 29th, 2008 (1:38 am)omg! I want to buy one now! That looks awesome
Aug 29th, 2008 (1:38 am)It’s beautiful and sensible … much better than the concept … I just wish GM’d get rid of the fake retro grille!
GM, what ever happened to the sleek front end of the 90’s Sunfire and Firebird? I had a ‘91 Formula and loved it … kept it for 16 years and 460,000 km. Now I can’t find a GM product (except the Vette) without one of those ugly retro grilles.
It won’t stop me from buying the 88th Volt off the production line, but I’d be a bit happier if GM gave me an option for a GRILLE-LESS FRONT END!!!
Hmmm … maybe a can of spray paint …
Aug 29th, 2008 (1:42 am)Rashiid Amul, your just mad cause no ones going to want to buy your oil anymore
Aug 29th, 2008 (1:49 am)if it were for sale already, id be at the dealership first thing tomorrow!
Aug 29th, 2008 (1:56 am)This Volt is just fine. I personally don’t like the Prius design. This Volt is much better looking.
I am very encouraged that GM will expand this platform into different vehicle designs.
If you don’t like this car, then wait for the next one! Every manufacturer will provide an extended range electric vehicle in the near future.
Wishing GM the best as they bring the Volt to the world stage.
Aug 29th, 2008 (1:57 am)Wow!! I love it, except for the side mirrors.. they are ugly! Everything else is awesome!!
Jay
Aug 29th, 2008 (2:11 am)Well the concept certainly looked better than that.
On the other hand, the car is purple, thats why it might look less attractive.
Now GM gotta show us real pics of the car.
Aug 29th, 2008 (2:17 am)I think everyone here is far too hyped up. Take a deep breath and re-look at the pictures. It looks pretty common people, like almost any Toyota, Nisson or Honda. I’m really excited about the Volt, the whole idea of it is just fantastic, but look hard, there’s not much unique about the outside. It’ll get lost in the parking lot among the sea of very similar cars. I feel let down about the looks, but I’m still hyped about the rest of the car.
Aug 29th, 2008 (2:31 am)AWESOME! I’m glad Chevy kept the aggressive look of the concept. The wheels and black roof are sweet and need to be options on the car when it hits production. I love the overall design and cannot wait until I can actually buy one. That split-window Vette in the video was also pretty sweet. Now if Chevy could only make one of them into a electric car!
Aug 29th, 2008 (2:45 am)This makes me hot and horny.
Aug 29th, 2008 (2:46 am)That’s a sharp looking car! Home run GM. Besides, I look at it like I would a dancer. Her face may be average but the things she can do with her fit body…
Aug 29th, 2008 (3:03 am)Voltzilla,
Im personally hoping “Son of Volt” will look like a mini Malibu.
I do wonder if the car for Transformers 2 is really a mutation of the true Volt that some how escaped.
A “prancing daschund” springs to mind, but I do’nt know why.
Aug 29th, 2008 (3:10 am)Black roof = photovoltaic option? I wouldn’t mind extending my range with a few solar cells on the roof. =-]
Aug 29th, 2008 (3:29 am)hope thats not a souped up version just for the movie
Aug 29th, 2008 (3:56 am)[...] promised myself that the next car I bought would be a real electric production car. Is this my next car? More importantly, can I afford it? Likely not, but that’s not the issue here. Pictures and [...]
Aug 29th, 2008 (5:16 am)This looks nothing like the car I wanted to buy. Count me out if this is the real Volt.
Aug 29th, 2008 (6:14 am)Tim Miller Says:
August 29th, 2008 at 5:16 am
This looks nothing like the car I wanted to buy. Count me out if this is the real Volt.
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The waiting list is being freed-up. The serious buyers are being consolidated.
Aug 29th, 2008 (6:17 am)I love the headline, “BREAKING!” lol – not enough excitment there – you think? Still looks like every other Chevy POS thats out there.
Aug 29th, 2008 (6:23 am)Looks nice, but it does look rather prius like. I like it and as long as it’s an EV with a RE I want one. For me it’s more about the tech than the styling.
Aug 29th, 2008 (6:29 am)Agreed,
I do like the look,
HOWEVER,
It’s what’s under the skin that matters to me.
Aug 29th, 2008 (6:30 am)Black roof? I hope that’s not on the production unit. The roof should be stark white to reflect the hot summer sun. The Volt doesn’t need to waste any of its precious electrons on additional air conditioning due to a dumb roof color.
Are those roof windows I see on the profile shot? Sure, throw more heat into the interior. I’ll just blast the A/C to cool it back down. Never mind the catastrophic affect that will have on AER.
The more information that comes out, the less I want one of these cars. It’s not really a full function, four door sedan. It can’t climb long mountain grades. It can’t seat five. The dash looks like a video game, and a cheap one at that. The overall looks is, well… underwhelming. But at least it costs more than nearly every car built by Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Mazda, Scion, Cooper, Subaru, Kia, Hyundai… That’s sure to help keep our American dollars on American shores!
Aug 29th, 2008 (6:45 am)Matt # 120 says,
Rashiid Amul, your just mad cause no ones going to want to buy your oil anymore
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Thanks. I am born and raised, 2nd generation American.
It not my oil. I hate those ba***rds. We need to get off of oil.
I don’t like the looks of the car but maybe Dave B #33 is correct when he said maybe it is the purple paint. The wheels are strange also, along with the body shape. Hey, there is no accounting for taste, right?
Aug 29th, 2008 (6:46 am)Hermant, #137.
How about white in summer and black in winter?
Aug 29th, 2008 (6:50 am)hermant # 137
Are you sure you didn’t leave anything out?
Different storkes for different folks.
God Bless America:
Tom
Aug 29th, 2008 (6:50 am)I think I will wait for the official pictures from GM to figure out if I like it or not. Honestly though, even if I don’t like the looks, it is what the car can do that is important to me. We need to bring our troops home and let the Middle East go back to the way it was before oil was discovered there. I will buy the Volt no matter how ugly it turns out, as long as it works like it is supposed to, and the price isn’t $40K
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:00 am)At a distance it looks good. At a closer distance, it’ll look great.
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:02 am)Form follows Function. I can appreciate the fact that GM needed to smooth the form of the concept if the function was to achieve a suitable all-electric range. I both liked and disliked certain aspects of the concept vehicle, therefore some changes to that are more easily accepted from my point of view. Bottom line is, THIS is going to be The Volt—not the concept we all have in-grained in our minds. Therefore throwing tomatoes at GM because they rounded this corner or stretched that edge isn’t going to accomplish anything. Give it a chance and let it sink in for awhile. Also remember that even though it shares aero traits of many other cars today, it is still NOT like ANY other car today.
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:03 am)Not what I expected but I want a couple of them anyway! Thumbs up!
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:05 am)Remember Folks it’s only a movie……. There have been a lot of GM fabrications. I’m not holding my breath. GM keeps extending the release of the car.
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:07 am)Schmeltz #143.
Those are good words to live by.
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:07 am)I too will withhold judgment until the official, high resolution photos are released. It looks …..ok. I just hope I can get one by Dec 2011 at under $35k.
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:11 am)Sweet Baby it’s much better than I had hoped for!
I’m number #26 on the unofficial waitlist and am READY to put down some cash. Living outside of NYC I smile thinking how much fun it’s going to be to cruise down 5th Ave with my VOLT turning a few heads. Hahahahah….LOL
La Dolce Vita
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:11 am)This side view (best resolution of any screen caps) clearly shows a large sun roof & large rear hatch window. Also, we now know what Boniface’s stalk-mounted mirrors at the front of the doors look like (BOLD!) and where the plug-in panels are —they’re the silver “arrowheads” joining the mirrors that extend the mirror’s bold styling theme into the front fenders on BOTH sides…..
http://www.autobloggreen.com/photos/volt-in-transformers-2/1005132/
Very nicely done, unique design —I really like it from the side!
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:13 am)Personally, i was never that into the concept car, so I’m glad it has been toned down. It is still a nice looking car, though, and much better than the Prius. For me, the looks would only be an issue if I were embarassed to drive it and I defintely would not be embarrased. Plus, with the driving that I do the most–rush hour in the DC suburbs–who really wants to stand out any more than necessary?
For those of you that aren’t going to buy the Volt because of its looks, are you serious? At worst, it maybe looks a little ordinary when compared to the concept, but it’s still not a bad looking car for it’s size. And don’t forget that it’s giving you 40 miles of electric range and 50 MPG of gasoline after that.
What are your alternatives if looks are all that matter to you, a gas-guzzling Corvette at $100k, a Camaro? If you were here purely for the looks of the car, then I’m guessing an E-REV was really never going to be for you–at least not until there are more choices. Just buy what looks good and forget about the other details. If your alternative is some other small Toyota, Honda, Mazda or whatever, then I’m really confused because, frankly, they all look about the same to me.
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:14 am)Looks like a typical asian economy car…wait maybe it is!
HYPE HYPE HYPE
A couple of weeks ago GM was not sure of body shape, engine type, battery supplier and now they have a “production” model ready?? THat would mean by years end they should be able to have at least 100 volts on the road ) and 3 years to test them to meet their 2011 release.
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:17 am)#145 Brian
“Remember Folks it’s only a movie……. There have been a lot of GM fabrications. …”
eek! This comment just gave me a shiver down the spine … you don’t think … nah, couldn’t be … hmmm … you don’t think that the whole Volt situation is merely a viral advertising campaign for the movie, and not a real car … do you?
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:18 am)Sad to see so many expressing disappointment over the look of the Volt. As someone observed above, if the concept was first shown in this color, and the production model was shown in the concept silver, perhaps more folks would like the look.
It does not appear to have much of a trunk, nor much head room in the back seat. Hopefully they will fix that when the Caddy version rolls out.
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:23 am)John Says:
August 28th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Jimmy Says:
August 28th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
To Statik:
If you don’t like it I guess you have no reason to keep posting on this site. It is funny how people keep saying how they are not going to buy the car for what ever reason …but for some reason keep coming back to this site and sounding interested.
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Since people here love a conspiracy anyways, Statik is probably a Toyota operative or something.
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This observation is quite obvious and I totally agree with it. Some are here just to get attention or disrupt the the postings.
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:25 am)Nice! The funny thing is that it looks very close to my current car, Scion tC RS2.0.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/scion-announces-pricing-for-2006-tc-release-series-20.html
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:27 am)I also like the Volt’s blacked-out top and its rear-end, including the see-thru “trunk” and the taillight treatment. However, at a glance the grill looks like that on a Ford Fusion (yuuuuk!!!)….
http://forum.avtoindex.com/foto/data/media/37/ford_fusion_2006_5.jpg
……i.e., horizontal chrome slats! In fact, when I first looked at the grill I though I saw the blue Ford Oval (not a Chevy Bowtie) in its center! GM, you’ve got a lot of work to do on this grill in addition to making it functional!
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:38 am)It would be nice if we could see side by side pictures of the concept and this unit. (concept pics from the SAME ANGLE, then we could really see the differences.
I doubt this is the final version though..GM only needs to get the NAME out there..LIke transformers 1, the Camero was rushed out for the movie and it was close,
From the top soso, the side looks better, so I say, can anyone post side by side of these and the concept? Honestly cannot see how the concept looked from above..could be close
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:39 am)MDDave Says:@150
“What are your alternatives if looks are all that matter to you, a gas-guzzling Corvette at $100k, a Camaro?”
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I have to pick on this quote because it is so wrong. With my new Corvette I can get 32 MPG with highway driving. This car can really coast w/o losing momentum!
The manual recommends high octane but I use regular with no noticeable difference.
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:39 am)Damn Americans are whingers…
“It’s too small/too plain/different to the prototype/this isn’t Europe/ugly/etc”…
GM never made a secret of the fact that the prototype was an aerodynamic disaster, and that the production car would look VERY different…
You want sustainable transport that’s going to mean freedom from dependance on oil? Then you’re going to have to adjust the greed and irresponsibility that seem to be cornerstones of American culture. And I promise you that if you open your minds the experience won’t be too painful. We only get a handful of American-made cars here: Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, and Hummer are about it. The best of the bunch is the 300C: It looks great and you’re expecting something special – but when you get close it feels cheap and is thunderously mediochre to drive. I just don’t get why Americans are so attached to their land-barges.
You don’t need a 2+ tonne car to get to work, people. I don’t care how much of a big strong man you are – you’ll still fit in a VW Golf. In fact, I reckon you’d need to be about 6′6″ before you’d run out of room in a Golf. That is, unless your one of those peole contributing to America’s ranking as the most obese nation on the planet. But of course, it’s your god-given right to be a lard-arse, so don’t take any responsibility for yourself. Just sit in front of your plasma tv and make bigoted remarks about ’sand-farmers’ and ‘commos’ while waiting for someone to deliver to you on a platter, a Hummer that runs on magical fairy dust.
Jeez, and you all wonder why the rest of the world doesn’t take you seriously…
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:40 am)Personally, I like it.
The concept car was nice, it was a very agressive design, but as you examine it (wheelbase as long as a Tahoe) it was impractical.
The new design does look similar to other small sedans in the marketplace, but I’m sure it will be distintive.
I concur with others, that the car needs to be aerodynamic, as GM will be demonstrating that they can build the most fuel-efficient car on the market. By the same token, they will make it look appealing (maybe not stellar), design it for 0-60 times of 8 seconds or less, and make it a well-handling vehicle.
Bottom line: you get performance, efficiency, and style, only without the aggressive looks that came with the Electric Camaro (concept car).
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:41 am)While looks are not of the utmost importance to me, I don’t care for this one. Mind you, I can’t really see it that well in these shots (well, not the side view, anyway). Of course, I didn’t care for the concept vehicle, either. This one is less distinctive than the concept to me, but I didn’t find either particularly attractive.
Aug 29th, 2008 (7:59 am)I wrote here months ago that if you want to buy a Mustang or a Camaro, you need to BUY a Mustang or Camaro or whatever, because the Volt will not be a Camaro. It won’t be a 60’s flashback muscle car, and it WON”T cost the three thousand dollars that you made in the summer of 68 mowing lawns.
If that’s what you wanted, you are a minority because not THAT many people care what a car looks like to that degree. Maybe in 10 MORE years GM will have perfected the drivetrain to build your dream car with all the anti-efficiency anti-aerodynamic, and testosterone-inducing curves that you want in your car. Meanwhile, buy a new Camaro if it will make you happy.
Just because the Volt is designed to sell to the masses, does not make it the car for you. You are much too discerning.
Based on the Pontiac piece of garbage I drive today, that now needs another 325 dollar repair on top of the THOUSANDS I’ve spent to keep it running, I have no love of GM. But if this concept vehicle becomes a million-car reality, the world will be different. And it will not look like the past.
Aug 29th, 2008 (8:02 am)Ouch! There’s a lot of disparaging stuff being flung around today from all angles. Can’t we all just—git alooong???
Aug 29th, 2008 (8:04 am)So much better than the concept cars, which embodied everything I dislike about Detroit designs.
It’s not a design to die for, but it’s one I can certainly get excited about (especially when considering what’s underneath the hood).
Put me on the list!
Aug 29th, 2008 (8:05 am)It looks like a four door Scion C… a $40,000 Scion C. I wouldn’t complain except that they are calling this $40,000 Scion C their car for the masses. Which masses? The skinny import on this forum? The tree hugging California geeks? This is a Chevrolet four door sedan, right? Most folks know what to expect from a Chevrolet four door sedan. And yet it costs more than a Cobalt, more than a Malibu, more than an Impala, damn near as much as a base Corvette and you don’t understand why some of us lard arses are disappointed? Designed for the masses? Seriously? I think that it is now officially time for GM to rethink their marketing.
Aug 29th, 2008 (8:13 am)Joe @ 157,
OK… I’ll admit that 32 MPG is much better than I thought a new Corvette gets; however, the Volt may get infinite MPG… The worst case scenario with the Volt is that it gets twice what your Corvette gets (50 MPG plus 40 miles from the battery equals ~60 MPG over a full tank/charge).
Luke @ 158,
There is nothing that annoys me more than being talked down to by stuck-up Europeans that think they have it all figured out (if you are not European, then insert your country of origin).
First of all, I find it offensive and it shows that you are totally cluesss when you claim that “greed is a cornerstone of American culture.” Americans are no more greedy than people anywhere else, and in some ways they are far less greedy. If you are trying to portray America’s disproportionate consumption of energy as a sign of greed then you are totally wrong; Americans have been blessed by abundant natural resources and work hard to buy the resources they don’t have. The rest of the world uses less resources because they feel pinched in this regard, not because of some altruistic virtue. If their economies allowed them to use the resources that Amercians use, then I guarantee you they would use the same amount or more.
You seem to have an attittude that Americans ought to settle for less and solve the world’s problems that way–apparently, the way you think Europeans would solve a problem, but why should we have to settle for less? Americans will innovate, the way GM is innovating with the Volt, so that we don’t have to settle for less. And then Europe and the rest of the world can reap–and in some cases steal–the benefit of American inginuity and hard work again. How’s that for American greed?
Aug 29th, 2008 (8:19 am)It doesn’t matter what this Volt iteration looks like – the creation of Transformers 2 must go on. If the final production Volt does not look like this iteration, I’m sure that the movie production people can alter the Volt’s appearance as necessary using CGI.
Aug 29th, 2008 (8:19 am)Nice, clean rendition of the contemporary euro-sedan look. Nothing extraordinary, nothing wrong. I like it.
Wanna Camaro? Buy a Camaro.
Aug 29th, 2008 (8:23 am)#53 Chris2 Says: “… any of you who also ride motorcycles – “Zero” motorcycles plans to have a street legal dual-sport motorcycle out soon, which would make a nice “sister vehicle” to the Volt. It’s motocross bike is apparently doing well already.
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Imagine having the Volt and the Zero Dualsport in the garage…One could avoid gas stations for months!”
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Thanks for the link! They are already taking deposits here:
http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/zero-s.php
- Miles per charge: 60
- Top speed (MPH): 70
- Less than $.01 per mile
I would never buy a pure BEV car, but a pure BEV motorcycle in addition to a car is a great idea.
Aug 29th, 2008 (8:26 am)It is somewhat of a unique look (does not match the Scion) and I think this will be good. It should stand out as a Volt in some way. People like that in a car and I think it will help the car sell.
If the engineering and interior are right, this thing will be a winner.
Aug 29th, 2008 (8:28 am)I guess I “Ecoed” Eco’s comment in #161.
Aug 29th, 2008 (8:30 am)It looks like the Volt almost stalls out at the end of the video. I hear what sounds like a poorly tuned engine and then the car seems to start slowing down. Anybody else notice this?
Aug 29th, 2008 (8:35 am)nice body, but but no proof this is running on a battery. Lutz is still waiting for a battery that doesn’t burst into flames.
Personally I would like to see hydrogen vehicle.
Aug 29th, 2008 (8:37 am)One other thing…you know there isn’t an endless supply of lithium for those batteries. We will have to import all the lithium to make them.
Aug 29th, 2008 (8:38 am)#158.
I have been to Europe many times and see the crappy little cars that you guys drive at 30-50 mpg. Big deal. We have had the option to buy these little things and did not want them when gas was less than $1 per gallon. You guys have been paying alot for gas for years and the best you could do was your little VW golf. If you guys were not sitting on your arses you would have developed somthing much better a long time ago. Now that Americans have high gas prices, we will adjust and do somthing about it. Batteries will be developed and the electric cars will become a reality within 10 years. The rest of the world, once again, will benefit from american ingenuity and will follow our lead.
Aug 29th, 2008 (8:50 am)#161 Eco
Thousands in repairs to your Pontiac? You must drive an Aztek. Oh, the wheel bearings. Oh, the speed sensors. Oh, the rear differential. Oh, the humanity…
My Grand Am (110,000 miles) is solid. The Aztek… not so much.
Aug 29th, 2008 (8:51 am)I could not tell as much about the pictures or video as I would like because of the color of the car and the lighting. But, what I saw was interesting.
Aug 29th, 2008 (8:52 am)I will take two please!
Aug 29th, 2008 (8:58 am)UGLY! Keep working on the design. I was so excited when I first heard about this car. I am wondering now if GM is going to make a big mistake by dramatically changing the way it looks. I think so. They have a chance to corner the market if they come out with a great looking vehicle that delivers on the fuel economy projections, but if it is viewed unfavorably in appearance it will not be accepted by the masses. You do not get a second chance to make a first impression. (I hope GM does not let their great idea go to other competitors because they understood this point.) People want to buy American, but if they get a choice between two vehicles that will do the same thing at comparable pricing–the sharper looking car will sell more. Unfortunate, but just a simple fact. I hope GM sees these posts, just look at how many are saying they “really do not think it looks good, but I can not wait to get one.” ??? Does this sound like a winning marketing strategy? “You can feel good about driving an ugly car.” Sounds like a good window of opportunity for your competition.
Keep working on the design. (Hermant, you make a great point.)
Aug 29th, 2008 (8:59 am)Staik,
Go start a website that demands the concept volt be built, while your at it make daily post about how GM won’t make it another 6 months finacialy. I origionally thought your post were factually refreshing in contrast to all the GM junkies here. But honestly your becoming a nusiance, your like that kid we all knew growing up that just wanted to take the fun/excitement out of everything. Can’t think of to many other posters on here that go out of there way to go against the grain, just for the sake of doing it.
Unlike you i follow this site because i’m into the Volt, you follow this site just like probably alot of others you subscribe to because you enjoy making STATIK.
PS save the “let me say for the record i’m going to buy a volt” crap. Man up and admit your a troll who thrives on conflict.
Aug 29th, 2008 (8:59 am)You know…..I don’t think it has door handles….Maybe it has a corvette type door opening system. Cool!
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:01 am)Well….I’m not blown away by these pics and the video….but I knew I wouldn’t be either….I’ve had some time to prepare for these ‘design changes’…. and my mantra has started to take hold…
mantra again was:
“this is more about the electrification of the car – not how cool it looks – forget about the concept”
…. repeat
… over and over
…. calmly
… both eyes closed…
I did look at this thread and the video with ONE eye closed at first….and after looking at them about 20+ times I can say this….
I loved the concept but also fully understood that it was just that – a concept….while I’m not blown away, I’m also not running away.
I’m going to lower my excitement level on my wait-list record from a 10 to only a 9 … which clearly means I still want one.
I’ll wait for GMs offical design release before making a full and final judgement.
I desperately want to be a GM customer for the first time… it will take a LOT of prying to get me out of my BMW that I love so very much, I will miss it ….BUT this technology, this country’s needs, my long commutes are just a few reasons why I’m still very much looking forward to getting this car.
I also dont get the purple color thing for the movie?? I guess it makes it ‘pop’ more?? I remember a movie called ‘Fast and the Furious’ and I am a bit scared that this purple car reminded me of that movie…I think its just the color though….oh geez….back to the mantra………………………………………….
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:01 am)Great looking car. I love it. I love it. I love it.
For those those who are complaining it is too small…
You KNEW the concept was a sporty 4-seater. What made you thing the production version would be any different?
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:01 am)#174 Nuclear Boyd
Well actually, the Europeans have been a hell of alot smarter than us with overall transportation policy. Ponder this the next time you are waiting in line for 90 minutes at the airport an hour outside of town on your way to 2 layovers just to fly 1000 miles. Your European counterpart is comfortably taking a 200 mph train in half the time. In the area of high speed rail technology the Europeans eat our lunch. And I’m not sure too many people can seriously accuse European cars of being “crappy”. A little turbo charged Mini Cooper can kick the snot out of any American pickup truck in acceleration, stopping, and cornering (pretty much every aspect of driving). And I say this as a life-long GM customer, not some latte-sipping, beret-wearing, surrender monkey.
Also, keep in mind that they pulled numerous European engineers over to work on the Volt project, and that the Saturn E-Flex will really just be a re-branded Opel (yes, GM owned, but German designed).
The whole “Europe sucks” thing is so 2003.
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:10 am)Not the greatest pictures, but what it shows makes me want one even more.
Edit:
Missed the video just watched it. Man I want one so bad
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:13 am)I don’t know if its the birds eye view, or the color, or what, but the look that made the concept car special doesn’t seem to be there. The front end looks short/stubby and the whole body is like a blob where the concept looked long and swept back. T
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:15 am)183. I travel in Europe frequently and do like the trains. They are, however, not ideal. I am heading over in 6 weeks again. I will look forward to long walks to stations or taxi rides and then sitting on a bench for an hour or more while I wait for the next train. I do love riding the trains but once I arrive I will again walk or taxi for a while before I arrive. Taxis suck in much of Europe by the way. Walking is usally the best.
All of this walking and biking is good for people but frankly, I like my car. And who cares if an overpriced min cooper can corner well. A $500 go cart corners well too. I want to haul stuff around on the weekends and trucks do that.
I am not saying Europe sucks but they definitely have the attitude that the US sucks and that we are fat, greedy etc. I mainly wanted to point out that as gas has rised in price, we will do somthing about it. They have had decades of high gas prices and they came up with the Mini cooper and walking to the train station. Big deal.
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:20 am)#52 Jimmy
#87 John
#91 John
#153 Joe
#179 John P
To Statik:
If you don’t like it I guess you have no reason to keep posting on this site.
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This is the problem when non-car enthusiasts flood a forum like this.
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Since people here love a conspiracy anyways, Statik is probably a Toyota operative or something.
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This observation is quite obvious and I totally agree with it. Some are here just to get attention or disrupt the the postings.
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Staik,
Go start a website that demands the concept volt be built, while your at it make daily post about how GM won’t make it another 6 months finacialy.
PS save the “let me say for the record i’m going to buy a volt” crap. Man up and admit your a troll who thrives on conflict
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I knew I’d get the love. This is a very personal thread, so I can understand it.
Disagree with me all you like, but it doesn’t matter how much I am cajoled, I’m going to speak my mind. And I won’t retort to ‘low blows’ like I am don’t like am not a car enthusiast or I work for Toyota because of my viewpoint, or I shouldn’t be able to give my opinion.
(and I have toned back my ‘financial links’ to almost none…other than when someone asks me directly, for the record)
It would seem my discontent is not isolated issue to me either. Actually I’m quite surprised at the number of people here who say they are either not happy or unimpressed.
If only 2 out of 3 here think it is a success, the real world will be less kind to it after having to watch a dozen concept Volt commercials a day for the last 3 weeks. I have no clue why GM would run that ad at all. If no one seen the concept, this would fly alot better.
GM execs say they read this site for grassroots feedback all the time, there is no way they are happy with the reponse…maybe there is still time for change?
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:22 am)#174
”. A little turbo charged Mini Cooper can kick the snot out of any American pickup truck in acceleration, stopping, and cornering (pretty much every aspect of driving)
How would your mini pull my boat? An important aspect of driving.
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:24 am)If its going to be in Transformers II, then these photos are indeed what the final production version for the first model year will look like.
Anyone notice the passenger side charging port in front of the side mirror?
I really don’t think its ugly, to me it looks like any one of the multitude of modern cars that basically resemble electric shavers.
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:25 am)#187 Statik
If anyone on this forum has earned the right to have a different opinion than the majority of posters without being criticized unnecessarily for it, that person is you. I will defend your right to the death. Just not my death, as they say.
You are closer to being correct about this than most of the ones criticizing you. I withhold my opinion of the pictures and video until I can see more. Keep up the good work, Statik.
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:26 am)THIS is it??!?!? bleh. Just another me-too small sedan.
The concept had me *excited*. I must have emailed the pictures around to dozens of friends… have openly bragged that I’d be right there on the day they started taking orders.
Now? You blind fan-boys have my place in line.
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:26 am)#188 Starcast Says: “How would your mini pull my boat? An important aspect of driving.”
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I don’t think the Volt will tow your boat. You’ll need another car for that.
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:27 am)Make mine electric blue …
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:31 am)This is the sweet beginning of the end for all world’s oil-turds!
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:39 am)#186 nuclear boyd Says: “I travel in Europe frequently and do like the trains. They are, however, not ideal. I am heading over in 6 weeks again. I will look forward to long walks to stations or taxi rides and then sitting on a bench for an hour or more while I wait for the next train.”
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We’ve been to Europe a few times as well. We always rent a small hatchback or station wagon.
The European countryside is beautiful, but every time you come to a town with a train station, it all changes to a mob of foreigners selling foreign made trinkets to foreign tourists. If you want to get out of the city once in a while an experience the real Europe, you’ll need a car.
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:40 am)For all you people that were to buy because of looks instead of performance, GREAT !!!
I wasn’t to far off on the wait list so this just moves me closer to the front, THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!!
God Bless America:
Tom
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:41 am)#190 N. Riley
Agree with you completely. Additionally, if Statik wasn’t present, who could we tease when GM delivers the car on time?
BTW did you notice reports that Toyota has a “death watch” out for the Volt?
I actually feel worse about Rashiid. No reason he needs to put up with DAPs like #120. He handled it with grace though.
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:43 am)Well….a fair compromise between practicality, aerodynamic effciency, and design.
However, the concept will always be my first love and I would gladly have sacrificed some range to the “aerodynamic train wreck” as GM called it.
I know I know…get over it!
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:44 am)Well folks, GM has done it to us again, shown us the great concept car and produced something else. I have hoped that at some point GM would realize that we the consumer public would like to have a really sharp car full of new technology! This seems too much to hope for and GM is going at some point get burnt by this type of bait and switch marketing. Maybe the Japanese or Germans will have a better idea as to what the people what and we will buy it in great numbers and where is my flying car that I was promised in the 1960’s?
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:46 am)I didn’t read every post, but has no one considered the fact that Production Volts, (even Pre-Production Volts) don’t exist yet. That car was probably a Fiero with a body kit on it. It may not be even close to the final size, shape and design.
Still it’s beautiful to see a car driving around with the Volt logo on it, and the blue is beautiful!
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:46 am)#187 Statik
If anyone on this forum has earned the right to have a different opinion than the majority of posters without being criticized unnecessarily for it, that person is you. I will defend your right to the death. Just not my death, as they say.
You are closer to being correct about this than most of the ones criticizing you. I withhold my opinion of the pictures and video until I can see more. Keep up the good work, Statik.
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Thanks.
/where do I sent the $20 to again?
SIde note:
I’m a big boy, and I will admit I got uncharacteristically over-animated in post #20. Obviously not everyone if they saw this footage as ” spy shots of the 2010 Prius would be saying it was trash,” that was a exaggeration, maybe 85%. I still think the message rang true, but it was delivered in a fashion that certainly was not illiciting calm response, or open minded thinking… so thats my fault.
I had a strong reaction to something I was following/invested in for a very long time and it was expressed ‘unfiltered’ to the site. I did temper myself and tried to bring it back into context in post #38,#39, but perhaps too late….so I will take the heat on this one, hehe.
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:47 am)I have watched the video over and over for the past hour. I have read comments from the good, the bad and the ugly. I have now looked at the pictures over and over. The pictures are not from a very good angle and are somewhat dark. I can not tell if the color of this car is purple or midnight blue. I don’t care for the purple hue but this could be due to the lighting at the time of the pictures.
At first I was in the middle as far as how it looks. After analyzing the pictures further I found myself liking it more then disliking. I was like a kid in a candy shop. Each time I looked at it I found something else to like.
I am excited about what this car represents to the future of the automobile and security it will help bring to this country. I look forward to getting my hands on one. This is a Revolution and I am proud to be part of it.
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:48 am)#183 Jim in PA Says: “Well actually, the Europeans have been a hell of alot smarter than us with overall transportation policy. Ponder this the next time you are waiting in line for 90 minutes at the airport …
Also, keep in mind that they pulled numerous European engineers over to work on the Volt project, and that the Saturn E-Flex will really just be a re-branded Opel (yes, GM owned, but German designed).
The whole “Europe sucks” thing is so 2003.”
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In general, I agree. We live in a world economy. American isolationism went out with World War II.
But all isn’t great in Europe. We need to learn from what they do well, but not copy everything they do.
As for the engineering team on the Volt, the fact that German engineers are moving to Detroit is significant. It means that the majority of the engineers and technicians are American. Otherwise, they would have American engineers moving to Germany.
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:49 am)#199 Donc
“#190 N. Riley: Agree with you completely. Additionally, if Statik wasn’t present, who could we tease when GM delivers the car on time? ”
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I look forward to being mercilessly pounded. I’m sure some members of the board will have some pent-up feelings they would like to express to me, lol. Hopefully, I will be reading the comments from the inside of my Volt. Although being near Toronto (where Toyota Canada HQ is incidentally, hehe), I know that is not going to happen, sigh. (For the record…I do live closer to GM HQ in Oshawa, but no one is accusing me of working for GM, lol)
Aug 29th, 2008 (9:49 am)Statik and Amul,
How did I guess that you would poo-poo any pics of the new Volt? Your rage tells me all I need to know.
Bob B