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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s Official: GM Intends to Build the Chevy Volt&#8217;s Engine in a New Plant in Flint, Michigan</title>
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		<title>By: The Griffon</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Griffon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GM has previously announced it will build [Family 0] engines from 1.0 to 1.4 L capacity in North America. The Volt will still get a 1.0 L APU, the Cruze and other cars will get the new 1.4 Turbo, There are also 1.2 and a smaller 1.4 L engine in this family, either of which could be built at Flint for NA-produced subcompacts such as the Aveo sedan and the Groove-inspired B-MPV (substantially bigger than the concept minicar).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GM has previously announced it will build [Family 0] engines from 1.0 to 1.4 L capacity in North America. The Volt will still get a 1.0 L APU, the Cruze and other cars will get the new 1.4 Turbo, There are also 1.2 and a smaller 1.4 L engine in this family, either of which could be built at Flint for NA-produced subcompacts such as the Aveo sedan and the Groove-inspired B-MPV (substantially bigger than the concept minicar).</p>
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		<title>By: T.C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how do you go about getting a job at the new plant?  Do u have to be refered like GM now or does anybody know a new way of being employed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how do you go about getting a job at the new plant?  Do u have to be refered like GM now or does anybody know a new way of being employed.</p>
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		<title>By: GradStudent</title>
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		<dc:creator>GradStudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like everyone else, I really hope GM can pull the Volt concept out of idea-land into reality in a way that works and is affordable to the average car buyer.

2 questions I&#039;ve been wondering about the Volt lately:

1) Why a brand new assembly plant for the engine - couldn&#039;t they have retrofitted an existing plant and retrained the employees there to build the engine?  Lately all I hear about is how they are closing plants left and right.  Or does opening a new plant allow them to hire new staff at new rates and contract terms that are less costly than legacy plants?

2) This is a bit more out there: in theory, if you are gonna build a combustion engine that acts strictly as a electrical power generator (ie. not a mechanically linked drive source), isn&#039;t it more efficient to go with a gas turbine based generator than a standard reciprocating engine?  This would essentially be the same technology that powers an M1 tank, the APU on a commercial jet, or the power plant for alot of rail locomotives.  

Ok, I realize the Volt needs to get to market quickly and cost effectively and going with what you have off the shelf is the best way to go in the short term. But in the long term, if the Volt is a hit, is it possible to create a small gas turbine electric generator that would fit in a small car and burn fuel more efficiently?  I&#039;ve seen those little 4-6 inch jet engines for model planes - maybe something a big bigger that could spin a electro-magnetic generator cost effectively?  

I figured turbines might be less maintenance and more efficient.  And in the winter, imagine how much quicker it would be to get some heat into the car!  (yeah, I&#039;m from Canada...)  Peace-out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like everyone else, I really hope GM can pull the Volt concept out of idea-land into reality in a way that works and is affordable to the average car buyer.</p>
<p>2 questions I&#8217;ve been wondering about the Volt lately:</p>
<p>1) Why a brand new assembly plant for the engine &#8211; couldn&#8217;t they have retrofitted an existing plant and retrained the employees there to build the engine?  Lately all I hear about is how they are closing plants left and right.  Or does opening a new plant allow them to hire new staff at new rates and contract terms that are less costly than legacy plants?</p>
<p>2) This is a bit more out there: in theory, if you are gonna build a combustion engine that acts strictly as a electrical power generator (ie. not a mechanically linked drive source), isn&#8217;t it more efficient to go with a gas turbine based generator than a standard reciprocating engine?  This would essentially be the same technology that powers an M1 tank, the APU on a commercial jet, or the power plant for alot of rail locomotives.  </p>
<p>Ok, I realize the Volt needs to get to market quickly and cost effectively and going with what you have off the shelf is the best way to go in the short term. But in the long term, if the Volt is a hit, is it possible to create a small gas turbine electric generator that would fit in a small car and burn fuel more efficiently?  I&#8217;ve seen those little 4-6 inch jet engines for model planes &#8211; maybe something a big bigger that could spin a electro-magnetic generator cost effectively?  </p>
<p>I figured turbines might be less maintenance and more efficient.  And in the winter, imagine how much quicker it would be to get some heat into the car!  (yeah, I&#8217;m from Canada&#8230;)  Peace-out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffhre</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/07/29/its-official-gm-intends-to-build-the-chevy-volts-engine-in-a-new-plant-in-flint-michigan/#comment-56640</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffhre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m gonna say the volt will get 54mpg. Any takers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m gonna say the volt will get 54mpg. Any takers?</p>
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		<title>By: stas peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>stas peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 04:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the third major revision update of the of the Family 0 engines that are built in GM factories around the World, first introduced in 1996.

GM calls the  Family 0 the smallest widespread engines from I-3 1.0 liter to 1.2  and 1.4 liter I-4 that it builds worldwide.  The originally proposed I-3 1.0 liter turbo, is a member of the same family produced in the same engine lines and merely a chopped off I-4 block.

The I-4  turbo is the engine going into the  Cobalt replacement the Cruze and the I-4 for the Volt wil have the updates of the third revision too.  DOHC, VVTs, multivalves, Alloy heads, GDI, dual turbo ready, HCCI ready, and local US production to ensure there are no problems with exchange rates as there would have been importing the same engines from a European Family 0 engine plant. 

The Plant that I want to see announced is the plant of the winner of the battery selection contest.  I want that facility located as any major supplier usually does, near the assembly plant right here in the USA.   I&#039;d like GM to even participate in the construction of the factory, and its automation.  That is GM&#039;s real competence, mass manufacture.  Longterm, it needs to know how to make battery factories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the third major revision update of the of the Family 0 engines that are built in GM factories around the World, first introduced in 1996.</p>
<p>GM calls the  Family 0 the smallest widespread engines from I-3 1.0 liter to 1.2  and 1.4 liter I-4 that it builds worldwide.  The originally proposed I-3 1.0 liter turbo, is a member of the same family produced in the same engine lines and merely a chopped off I-4 block.</p>
<p>The I-4  turbo is the engine going into the  Cobalt replacement the Cruze and the I-4 for the Volt wil have the updates of the third revision too.  DOHC, VVTs, multivalves, Alloy heads, GDI, dual turbo ready, HCCI ready, and local US production to ensure there are no problems with exchange rates as there would have been importing the same engines from a European Family 0 engine plant. </p>
<p>The Plant that I want to see announced is the plant of the winner of the battery selection contest.  I want that facility located as any major supplier usually does, near the assembly plant right here in the USA.   I&#8217;d like GM to even participate in the construction of the factory, and its automation.  That is GM&#8217;s real competence, mass manufacture.  Longterm, it needs to know how to make battery factories.</p>
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		<title>By: Tagamet</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/07/29/its-official-gm-intends-to-build-the-chevy-volts-engine-in-a-new-plant-in-flint-michigan/#comment-56211</link>
		<dc:creator>Tagamet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Statik@81

Thanks?
Be well,
Tag</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Statik@81</p>
<p>Thanks?<br />
Be well,<br />
Tag</p>
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		<title>By: noel park</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/07/29/its-official-gm-intends-to-build-the-chevy-volts-engine-in-a-new-plant-in-flint-michigan/#comment-56202</link>
		<dc:creator>noel park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks to all for your concern about the earthquake   I am really touched.  I did sort of go on about this on this morning&#039;s thread, in response to RB and others.  So I won&#039;t bore you again here.

Sorry if my comment sounded a bit dramatic.  It&#039;s always pretty exciting when the room is rocking, but we&#039;re all fine.  You heard if first, anyway!

Again, many thanks.  Deeply appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks to all for your concern about the earthquake   I am really touched.  I did sort of go on about this on this morning&#8217;s thread, in response to RB and others.  So I won&#8217;t bore you again here.</p>
<p>Sorry if my comment sounded a bit dramatic.  It&#8217;s always pretty exciting when the room is rocking, but we&#8217;re all fine.  You heard if first, anyway!</p>
<p>Again, many thanks.  Deeply appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Statik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Statik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#80 Jim in PA

Hey!  No stepping on Tag&#039;s dreams!

...thats my job,hehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#80 Jim in PA</p>
<p>Hey!  No stepping on Tag&#8217;s dreams!</p>
<p>&#8230;thats my job,hehe</p>
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		<title>By: Jim in PA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim in PA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#26 Tagamet: There is no way a Volt will be rolling off the line in 2009. If they are building a new plant, I doubt it will be up and running as a facility until mid-2010. I say this as an engineer who works in large construction projects regularly.  Designing, building, and troubleshooting a highly automated auto plant in 1 year is very unlikely. Not impossible, but very improbable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26 Tagamet: There is no way a Volt will be rolling off the line in 2009. If they are building a new plant, I doubt it will be up and running as a facility until mid-2010. I say this as an engineer who works in large construction projects regularly.  Designing, building, and troubleshooting a highly automated auto plant in 1 year is very unlikely. Not impossible, but very improbable.</p>
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		<title>By: AS</title>
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		<dc:creator>AS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those wondering why they would not reuse an existing plant...

Just because the building exists, doesn&#039;t mean that it will be a good fit for the production lines.  It might take more $$ to retrofit an existing site in order to make it work for the platform they are building.  Also, many of the plants (existing and closing) are old, which means that energy bills to keep the ambient environment up to OSHA standards would probably be high due to lack of insulation.  Also, the equipment in these closed plants have probably been scavanged by other plants (that&#039;s what happened @ Ford), so either way, they&#039;re going to be sinking money into new equipment, so why not roll the cost of a new facility (even if it&#039;s on already owned land).

There are a lot of factors that goes into making a decision on whether to build new or retrofit old, so don&#039;t be so quick to criticize the decision.

Also, I&#039;ve seen a plant area from one area being resused at another that was such a bad idea.  The &quot;cost-save&quot; of reusing existing equipment for a platform nearly twice the size of the original platform hurt overall productivity.  It&#039;s not always the best idea to reuse existing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those wondering why they would not reuse an existing plant&#8230;</p>
<p>Just because the building exists, doesn&#8217;t mean that it will be a good fit for the production lines.  It might take more $$ to retrofit an existing site in order to make it work for the platform they are building.  Also, many of the plants (existing and closing) are old, which means that energy bills to keep the ambient environment up to OSHA standards would probably be high due to lack of insulation.  Also, the equipment in these closed plants have probably been scavanged by other plants (that&#8217;s what happened @ Ford), so either way, they&#8217;re going to be sinking money into new equipment, so why not roll the cost of a new facility (even if it&#8217;s on already owned land).</p>
<p>There are a lot of factors that goes into making a decision on whether to build new or retrofit old, so don&#8217;t be so quick to criticize the decision.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;ve seen a plant area from one area being resused at another that was such a bad idea.  The &#8220;cost-save&#8221; of reusing existing equipment for a platform nearly twice the size of the original platform hurt overall productivity.  It&#8217;s not always the best idea to reuse existing.</p>
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