FWIW: So far, Altairnano owns the record for low IR, measuring in the milliohm range, and they get the extreme temperature (-40, +260 F) and high power/low heating performance that’s expected. This qualifies them to provide high value megawatt-scale batteries for power grid stabilization and military uses that provide rapid payback, low maintenance, and long life using a product made in the USA.

Too bad that it will be years, if ever, before this product is moved to commodity production so it will only be available in $200k vehicles for the time being. It’s interesting that an 11.5kwh Altair battery will yield the same DOD as the 18kwh A123/whoever Volt contenders and weigh about the same but require none of the elaborate temperature management infrastructure now being engineered to make the contenders perform and last acceptably.

If nanowire research yields low IR, better DOD Density (my invention) and can be produced economically, Altair will have chosen the right niche for its product. But while I’ll drive the Volt I can afford (the $7k planned credit will help), the Lightning concept is still very appealing. With four wheel motors and an ocean of Altair storage, it’ll go 0-60 < 4 sec.

By me, all the Lightning needs to be perfect is an ultra light, ultra low emission Rotapower/UQM range extender (4 moving parts total). The massive genset that’s being planned for the Volt will result in a performance hit and be comparatively high maintenance for owners and it will be a millstone around GM’s neck that competitors will seize on to get an advantage. Aside from my good wishes for the people of Flint MI, I wish GM wasn’t building a new plant right now to make this oil-soaked technology so it’d be easier to advance when the competition comes.

Also, I’ve discovered that Richard S. Wier, the son of Richard D. Weir runs an internet marketting company, well what more would you need to start a pump and dump internet scam than an internet marketting professional? I tried pointing this out on http://www.theeestory.com but they quickly tried to erase all evidence that I was member on the site. my motto was find the building, find the proof. I suspect that the admin of http://www.theeestory.com with their anonymous dns hosting information and anonymous contact info and eestor are one in the same entities.
Its a shame that so much attention has been given to this snake oil technology, when legitimate science like the silicon nano-wire battery holds a much greater promise.

I also find very little solid motive, in all of the releases and blogs, to cause a fraud, so far. Do any of you?

This means, at face value, that the invesment risk is primarily scientific and production related. I believe that if a product was produced by EEStor with even a third of the promised capability – it would be valuable. Maybe less, but still valuable.

Finally, both ZENN (Who is now making money according to their latest financials) and Lockheed (who we all should know) could benefit greatly from a success at EEStor. The downside of an EEStor failure would not be a total loss for either.

If, as you say, the government will not put up with companies making false statements to induce investment, why have the not pounced upon the owners of ZAP Motors? There is story after story of them taking money and not delivering anything to customers and potential dealers.

And since EEStor is not a publicly traded company, the owner can say whatever he wants to say. If people want to privately invest in his company, that is their business.

You can’t take away a person’s right to be greedy and/or stupid…………..

I am a finance person (not a battery head). I have reason to know that the gov’t is NOT going to put up with another fraud for one second.

So what does this mean? There must be some basis in fact for EEStor’s statements that is beyond our knowledge base. Which I might point out is one reason why EEStor is being secretive. It wants to keep it that way.

Patents:
Don’t get hung up in your underwear on patents. My father worked for IBM for over 30 years. IBM would NEVER patent their best stuff. NEVER. On their best proprietary hardware they kept tract of every single part on every single machine they sold. This includes parts in a serviceman’s hands. Servicemen were given parts with time limits that had to be returned to inventory. IBM sued the pants off of anyone that copied thier proprietary stuff. So – it was known – If you patented your best stuff it was like it was like giving out candy in a kid’s store and putting a spotlight on it – just giving it away! Just forget about the patent stuff meaning anything.

Wasn’t Richard Weir an ex IBMer or Xerox. IBM or Xerox you can bet that they are all the same. They all come from the same mold.

I see the number one biggest issue being technological hurdles of mass production and theft of intelectual property. There is no good reason, having read all of the blogs, that Richard Weir’s EESU isn’t, in fact, real. The issue is focusing on getting a workable solution to market on a scale that captures the market share before others get the chance to do it.

EEStor will have many enemies. You don’t disrupt an economy with a development like EEStor claims without causing a lot of disruption and pain. You can bet your house that the EESU is a holy grail in the denfense industry. It is probably the key remaining obsticle in mobile missle defense. So you can count on the enemies of the US as potential disruptors of this new technology.

This opportunity, on the other hand, “is priceless”.

Lith-ion technology. I’m sorry but as some others have said, I see this technology as complementary to L-ion. They both will do different things. I can’t see the use for a 3,000 volt supercap in my kid’s games, laptop or even my Ipod. Do you? Do you really think they’l let me take one on a plane? C’mon, there will be a gazillion different uses for super duper lith-ion batteries. Even if EEStor succeeds.

I’m calling my broker and investing in Zenn and Lockheed Martin. There the only options. I’m not betting my house but I think it is foolish to ignore it.