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	<title>Comments on: Forget the Volt&#8217;s Roof, GM Puts World&#8217;s Largest Solar Roof on a Whole Assembly Plant</title>
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	<description>Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt.</description>
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		<title>By: Alauddin, Md</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alauddin, Md</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic. Great achievment. 

Now would you please tell me the  cost of 10 megawatts solar power plant and when this size  will be available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic. Great achievment. </p>
<p>Now would you please tell me the  cost of 10 megawatts solar power plant and when this size  will be available.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed M</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/07/08/forget-the-volts-roof-gm-puts-worlds-largest-solar-roof-on-a-whole-assembly-plant/#comment-91797</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 06:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may be good pr but I wonder how long it will take to pay for itself, anyone know.

Wouldn&#039;t it make more sense for a cash strapped company to hold off on this kind of spending until they start turning a profit ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may be good pr but I wonder how long it will take to pay for itself, anyone know.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it make more sense for a cash strapped company to hold off on this kind of spending until they start turning a profit ?</p>
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		<title>By: wtfover</title>
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		<dc:creator>wtfover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s also set to expire at the end of this year and the Republicans have kept it bottled up in committee in the Senate.&quot;
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Earth to Don the Republicans have not had control of any committees in the Senate since Jan 2007, if they&#039;re blocking anything as suggested it&#039;s because they&#039;re getting help from Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s also set to expire at the end of this year and the Republicans have kept it bottled up in committee in the Senate.&#8221;<br />
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<p>Earth to Don the Republicans have not had control of any committees in the Senate since Jan 2007, if they&#8217;re blocking anything as suggested it&#8217;s because they&#8217;re getting help from Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in California, so most of my knowledge is about companies here, but Borrego Solar has a one location in Boston.
http://www.borregosolar.com/solar-energy-company/solar-contractor.php

Solar City offers leases - you allow them to build on your roof, they own the equipment, so you don&#039;t have to pay up front for solar.
http://www.solarcity.com/

Sunpower has a great cost calculator. They also offer integrated solar roof tiles as well as traditional panels mounted above the roof. 
http://www.sunpowercorp.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in California, so most of my knowledge is about companies here, but Borrego Solar has a one location in Boston.<br />
<a href="http://www.borregosolar.com/solar-energy-company/solar-contractor.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.borregosolar.com/solar-energy-company/solar-contractor.php</a></p>
<p>Solar City offers leases &#8211; you allow them to build on your roof, they own the equipment, so you don&#8217;t have to pay up front for solar.<br />
<a href="http://www.solarcity.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.solarcity.com/</a></p>
<p>Sunpower has a great cost calculator. They also offer integrated solar roof tiles as well as traditional panels mounted above the roof.<br />
<a href="http://www.sunpowercorp.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sunpowercorp.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rogelio Cisneros</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rogelio Cisneros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know they can build one in Arizona sun is alway up there , or death valley hot as hell there.Lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know they can build one in Arizona sun is alway up there , or death valley hot as hell there.Lol</p>
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		<title>By: DaveP</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#34 Mark H
Yeah, that&#039;s the one, the 26650.  The specs are on the datasheet I provided a link to.  5A is pretty doable, it&#039;s just about 2x the 1 hour discharge rate (or 2C). A123&#039;s technology allows some very high charge and discharge rates compared to other formulations (like 10C is no problem as I recall reading somewhere.  The datasheet lists maximum continuous discharge rate at about 30C rate!).
It allows crazy things like this!:
http://www.killacycle.com/
I should also reiterate that I&#039;m not a (the?) battery expert.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#34 Mark H<br />
Yeah, that&#8217;s the one, the 26650.  The specs are on the datasheet I provided a link to.  5A is pretty doable, it&#8217;s just about 2x the 1 hour discharge rate (or 2C). A123&#8217;s technology allows some very high charge and discharge rates compared to other formulations (like 10C is no problem as I recall reading somewhere.  The datasheet lists maximum continuous discharge rate at about 30C rate!).<br />
It allows crazy things like this!:<br />
<a href="http://www.killacycle.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.killacycle.com/</a><br />
I should also reiterate that I&#8217;m not a (the?) battery expert.  <img src='http://gm-volt.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Grizzly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grizzly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solar is definitely an expensive proposition, but Germany has had great success and has beat their own oil lobby with leadership, something I&#039;d like to see in the US but won&#039;t hold my breath.  

Here&#039;s a pretty good article:

http://tinyurl.com/5w2b88</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solar is definitely an expensive proposition, but Germany has had great success and has beat their own oil lobby with leadership, something I&#8217;d like to see in the US but won&#8217;t hold my breath.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a pretty good article:</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/5w2b88" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5w2b88</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rashiid Amul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rashiid Amul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don C #64.  says &quot;On the cost side perhaps they’re just giving the raw costs of the panels …&quot;

Well it wouldn&#039;t really surprise me.  They are in sales mode after all.
However, I think I will call them and see how much an actual 3 KWH system will cost me out of pocket.

Thank you very much for your feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don C #64.  says &#8220;On the cost side perhaps they’re just giving the raw costs of the panels …&#8221;</p>
<p>Well it wouldn&#8217;t really surprise me.  They are in sales mode after all.<br />
However, I think I will call them and see how much an actual 3 KWH system will cost me out of pocket.</p>
<p>Thank you very much for your feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: DonC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DonC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rashiid@#62

That&#039;s an interesting site. Thanks!

In looking at the CA figures, the FREE seems overdone. The rebates seem overly generous and the installed costs too low. A 1kW system would probably cost close to $9000 and the state/utility rebate would probably be closer to $1900, meaning rather than FREE it would set you back something on the order of $5000.

On the cost side perhaps they&#039;re just giving the raw costs of the panels ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rashiid@#62</p>
<p>That&#8217;s an interesting site. Thanks!</p>
<p>In looking at the CA figures, the FREE seems overdone. The rebates seem overly generous and the installed costs too low. A 1kW system would probably cost close to $9000 and the state/utility rebate would probably be closer to $1900, meaning rather than FREE it would set you back something on the order of $5000.</p>
<p>On the cost side perhaps they&#8217;re just giving the raw costs of the panels &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DonC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DonC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jackson@#61

It really depends on whether the thin film solar panels pan out. Right now solar is 4X the cost of alternatives. The thin film firms, and there are a lot of them, are all confident that their technologies can provide power at a cost equal to or less than the alternatives. If they can then solar will pick up very quickly. If not then solar will remain a niche power source.

BTW I&#039;ve seen a lot of designs for solar roof plug-in &quot;garages&quot;. Reminds me of Alaska, where we had plug in heaters for the radiators. At those temperatures you might need to juice the battery fairly frequently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jackson@#61</p>
<p>It really depends on whether the thin film solar panels pan out. Right now solar is 4X the cost of alternatives. The thin film firms, and there are a lot of them, are all confident that their technologies can provide power at a cost equal to or less than the alternatives. If they can then solar will pick up very quickly. If not then solar will remain a niche power source.</p>
<p>BTW I&#8217;ve seen a lot of designs for solar roof plug-in &#8220;garages&#8221;. Reminds me of Alaska, where we had plug in heaters for the radiators. At those temperatures you might need to juice the battery fairly frequently.</p>
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