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	<title>Comments on: Next Generation Prius to Have Solar Panel Roof Option</title>
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		<title>By: AMaki</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/07/06/next-generation-prius-to-have-solar-panel-roof-option/#comment-112574</link>
		<dc:creator>AMaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 13:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a great idea.  Look, you can guess at a cost based on the _retail_ cost of home rooftop panels, plus markup, but that doesn&#039;t make sense, Toyota&#039;s not going to pay retail for the panels.  You can say that they won&#039;t add much to the mileage, but they could add something, especially if you&#039;re like me and run/charge iPods, cell phones, air conditioning etc in the car.  
Sure you can poo poo it as a &quot;green bling&quot; status symbol, but you&#039;re going to have to get over yourself on that one; if it makes sense it makes sense.  If it saves gas, it saves gas, and even if it doesn&#039;t work out to save money in the long run (I said IF, we haven&#039;t seen any numbers, and who knows what gas prices will do) if you have the money, it still makes sense politically and environmentally to use less gas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a great idea.  Look, you can guess at a cost based on the _retail_ cost of home rooftop panels, plus markup, but that doesn&#8217;t make sense, Toyota&#8217;s not going to pay retail for the panels.  You can say that they won&#8217;t add much to the mileage, but they could add something, especially if you&#8217;re like me and run/charge iPods, cell phones, air conditioning etc in the car.<br />
Sure you can poo poo it as a &#8220;green bling&#8221; status symbol, but you&#8217;re going to have to get over yourself on that one; if it makes sense it makes sense.  If it saves gas, it saves gas, and even if it doesn&#8217;t work out to save money in the long run (I said IF, we haven&#8217;t seen any numbers, and who knows what gas prices will do) if you have the money, it still makes sense politically and environmentally to use less gas.</p>
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		<title>By: JDinFL</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/07/06/next-generation-prius-to-have-solar-panel-roof-option/#comment-57248</link>
		<dc:creator>JDinFL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why only solar panels on the roof?  Why not on the trunk and hood also?  Capture electricity when one applies the brakes.  And, if I live in Florida and work 10-12 or longer hour days, why can&#039;t my car recharge in the parking lot all day?  It doesn&#039;t even have to be a full charge.  If a 12 or 13 hour charge from panels only gives me 10 miles, then maybe I plug in once a week instead of every night.  Maybe extra panels that fit inside the back and front windows to block the Sun and add extra to the charge?  I can use these to keep the heat out of the car and remove them to drive home.  If a piece of cardboard works, why not get some juice out of one?

All of the above beat using coal or gas to generate electricity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why only solar panels on the roof?  Why not on the trunk and hood also?  Capture electricity when one applies the brakes.  And, if I live in Florida and work 10-12 or longer hour days, why can&#8217;t my car recharge in the parking lot all day?  It doesn&#8217;t even have to be a full charge.  If a 12 or 13 hour charge from panels only gives me 10 miles, then maybe I plug in once a week instead of every night.  Maybe extra panels that fit inside the back and front windows to block the Sun and add extra to the charge?  I can use these to keep the heat out of the car and remove them to drive home.  If a piece of cardboard works, why not get some juice out of one?</p>
<p>All of the above beat using coal or gas to generate electricity.</p>
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		<title>By: Tagamet</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/07/06/next-generation-prius-to-have-solar-panel-roof-option/#comment-52459</link>
		<dc:creator>Tagamet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackkeats.
&quot;Say, can I get a pedal option on a Prius? I can use it during rush hour traffic jams to
1: excercise,
2: charge the battery,
3: power my AC, radio, wireless internet device/laptop, run the fridge (for that cold Avion),
4:charge my cell phone, or
5: any thing else I can think of with up to an extra 100 watts.
Comon guys, it’s greeeenn…&quot;

Sounds like a little ECST could be an option (g).
Be well,
Tag
PS ECS=Electro-convulsive Shock Treatment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackkeats.<br />
&#8220;Say, can I get a pedal option on a Prius? I can use it during rush hour traffic jams to<br />
1: excercise,<br />
2: charge the battery,<br />
3: power my AC, radio, wireless internet device/laptop, run the fridge (for that cold Avion),<br />
4:charge my cell phone, or<br />
5: any thing else I can think of with up to an extra 100 watts.<br />
Comon guys, it’s greeeenn…&#8221;</p>
<p>Sounds like a little ECST could be an option (g).<br />
Be well,<br />
Tag<br />
PS ECS=Electro-convulsive Shock Treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: jackkeats</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/07/06/next-generation-prius-to-have-solar-panel-roof-option/#comment-52442</link>
		<dc:creator>jackkeats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say, can I get a pedal option on a Prius? I can use it during rush hour traffic jams to 
1: excercise, 
2: charge the battery, 
3: power my AC, radio, wireless internet device/laptop, run the fridge (for that cold Avion), 
4:charge my cell phone, or 
5: any thing else I can think of with up to an extra 100 watts.  
Comon guys, it&#039;s greeeenn...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say, can I get a pedal option on a Prius? I can use it during rush hour traffic jams to<br />
1: excercise,<br />
2: charge the battery,<br />
3: power my AC, radio, wireless internet device/laptop, run the fridge (for that cold Avion),<br />
4:charge my cell phone, or<br />
5: any thing else I can think of with up to an extra 100 watts.<br />
Comon guys, it&#8217;s greeeenn&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason The Saj</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/07/06/next-generation-prius-to-have-solar-panel-roof-option/#comment-51562</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason The Saj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a gimmick, it&#039;s an idea I&#039;ve argued for, for years...

You leave work and get into your car. It&#039;s now like 120 degrees inside. So you roll down the windows and blast the air conditioning until the vehicle is cool.

Versus...

You walk out and a solar panel has been running a small blower fan to blow out the super-heated air. Or a larger unit has continuously run the air conditioner.

Mind you, I just had a recent use of this sort of thing. Driving cross country in my Prius.  We&#039;d take a couple one to three hour naps. However, it was hot!  So we&#039;d leave the Prius running with the air conditioning for 2-3 hours.

Guess what, the Prius kept the car interior cool. Periodically activating the air conditioner.  And occaisionally it would turn on the engine to re-charge.  This is not something I could have done in an normal car. I&#039;d have had to have the engine running (using up lots of gas and emitting lots of CO2) the entire time in order to run the air conditioning.  Or I&#039;d have turned it off and sweated like a pig.

So I see the potential for such a concept as quite real. Albeit, not fully realized yet by most proponents and opponents alike.

- The Saj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a gimmick, it&#8217;s an idea I&#8217;ve argued for, for years&#8230;</p>
<p>You leave work and get into your car. It&#8217;s now like 120 degrees inside. So you roll down the windows and blast the air conditioning until the vehicle is cool.</p>
<p>Versus&#8230;</p>
<p>You walk out and a solar panel has been running a small blower fan to blow out the super-heated air. Or a larger unit has continuously run the air conditioner.</p>
<p>Mind you, I just had a recent use of this sort of thing. Driving cross country in my Prius.  We&#8217;d take a couple one to three hour naps. However, it was hot!  So we&#8217;d leave the Prius running with the air conditioning for 2-3 hours.</p>
<p>Guess what, the Prius kept the car interior cool. Periodically activating the air conditioner.  And occaisionally it would turn on the engine to re-charge.  This is not something I could have done in an normal car. I&#8217;d have had to have the engine running (using up lots of gas and emitting lots of CO2) the entire time in order to run the air conditioning.  Or I&#8217;d have turned it off and sweated like a pig.</p>
<p>So I see the potential for such a concept as quite real. Albeit, not fully realized yet by most proponents and opponents alike.</p>
<p>- The Saj</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Marshall</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/07/06/next-generation-prius-to-have-solar-panel-roof-option/#comment-51309</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Volt has a pricing problem.
An expensive solar array option on the roof is not going to help GM market this thing - only a few ecological ideologues (eco-dogues) will go for it.

It&#039;s an option that will sell like pink Cadillacs. 

When I was an undergraduate in the 1970s they were talking about mass production and increased efficiency of solar cells; they&#039;re still talking.
Anyhow, the new batteries do promise to make solar cells more viable since we may finally have a good way to capture the energy for when it&#039;s needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Volt has a pricing problem.<br />
An expensive solar array option on the roof is not going to help GM market this thing &#8211; only a few ecological ideologues (eco-dogues) will go for it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an option that will sell like pink Cadillacs. </p>
<p>When I was an undergraduate in the 1970s they were talking about mass production and increased efficiency of solar cells; they&#8217;re still talking.<br />
Anyhow, the new batteries do promise to make solar cells more viable since we may finally have a good way to capture the energy for when it&#8217;s needed.</p>
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		<title>By: N Riley</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/07/06/next-generation-prius-to-have-solar-panel-roof-option/#comment-51293</link>
		<dc:creator>N Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave G

Thanks for the links.  All worked except the copied one.  Good information supporting the hydrogen hoax theory.  

Go GM and Go Volt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave G</p>
<p>Thanks for the links.  All worked except the copied one.  Good information supporting the hydrogen hoax theory.  </p>
<p>Go GM and Go Volt;.</p>
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		<title>By: dagwood55</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/07/06/next-generation-prius-to-have-solar-panel-roof-option/#comment-51262</link>
		<dc:creator>dagwood55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#109, Hermant,

My roof (not a particularly big house) has enough area to support 5KW more more... enough to run up to 5 hairdryers.  At once.  And, since we use our one hairdryer for less than 10 minutes a day, that&#039;s 5KW, continuous for several hours, going into other things.

5KW could, in two hours, recharge a Volt.  If you look at the EVNut.com site, you will find dozens of Rav4-EV owners who have SPV installed on their homes.

#110, Jackson,

I think BMW is actively pursuing that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#109, Hermant,</p>
<p>My roof (not a particularly big house) has enough area to support 5KW more more&#8230; enough to run up to 5 hairdryers.  At once.  And, since we use our one hairdryer for less than 10 minutes a day, that&#8217;s 5KW, continuous for several hours, going into other things.</p>
<p>5KW could, in two hours, recharge a Volt.  If you look at the EVNut.com site, you will find dozens of Rav4-EV owners who have SPV installed on their homes.</p>
<p>#110, Jackson,</p>
<p>I think BMW is actively pursuing that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/07/06/next-generation-prius-to-have-solar-panel-roof-option/#comment-51257</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Late to the fray with a supporting link:

http://www.technologynewsdaily.com/node/9997

This is not for Solar, it&#039;s for Thermoelectric generators.  A third of the heat from an internal combustion engine goes down the tailpipe.  The difference in temp between exhaust gas and cooling system water can be over 100 degrees Celcius; which ought to be fine for solid-state TG cells to provide an extra kilowatt.

A few watts here, a few watts there, and pretty soon you&#039;re talking about real power!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late to the fray with a supporting link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.technologynewsdaily.com/node/9997" rel="nofollow">http://www.technologynewsdaily.com/node/9997</a></p>
<p>This is not for Solar, it&#8217;s for Thermoelectric generators.  A third of the heat from an internal combustion engine goes down the tailpipe.  The difference in temp between exhaust gas and cooling system water can be over 100 degrees Celcius; which ought to be fine for solid-state TG cells to provide an extra kilowatt.</p>
<p>A few watts here, a few watts there, and pretty soon you&#8217;re talking about real power!</p>
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		<title>By: hermant</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/07/06/next-generation-prius-to-have-solar-panel-roof-option/#comment-51231</link>
		<dc:creator>hermant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a quote from NBC news...

Mazda Motor Corp briefly offered a solar panel option on two car models, the Eunos 800 and Sentia, in the early 1990s to ventilate the sedans while parked on hot summer days. The expensive option was unpopular and discontinued after a few years.

Kentaro Endo, a director at Japan’s Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry who specializes in renewable energy, said the application of solar energy was severely limited in vehicles.

“Even if you laid solar panels out on the entire roof of a house, you only generate enough energy to run two hair dryers,” he said.

“It’s an interesting idea, but it would be very difficult to power a whole car, even with technological advances.”

...to summarize; not a new idea, not a good idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a quote from NBC news&#8230;</p>
<p>Mazda Motor Corp briefly offered a solar panel option on two car models, the Eunos 800 and Sentia, in the early 1990s to ventilate the sedans while parked on hot summer days. The expensive option was unpopular and discontinued after a few years.</p>
<p>Kentaro Endo, a director at Japan’s Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry who specializes in renewable energy, said the application of solar energy was severely limited in vehicles.</p>
<p>“Even if you laid solar panels out on the entire roof of a house, you only generate enough energy to run two hair dryers,” he said.</p>
<p>“It’s an interesting idea, but it would be very difficult to power a whole car, even with technological advances.”</p>
<p>&#8230;to summarize; not a new idea, not a good idea!</p>
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