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		<title>By: Jason The Saj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason The Saj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 16:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally figured out what I don&#039;t like about the new design. It&#039;s the trunk. It&#039;s to square and flat.
The new design has a trunk that is basically like this:
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Where as the original design was more sleek.
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And I like that better. I would think it&#039;d improve aerodynamics as well. I think they should go back to that design. Maybe extend the trunk rearward a bit on the bottom. Perhaps make it a &quot;spare tire&quot; storage underneath.
 
 
 
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally figured out what I don&#8217;t like about the new design. It&#8217;s the trunk. It&#8217;s to square and flat.<br />
The new design has a trunk that is basically like this:<br />
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Where as the original design was more sleek.<br />
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And I like that better. I would think it&#8217;d improve aerodynamics as well. I think they should go back to that design. Maybe extend the trunk rearward a bit on the bottom. Perhaps make it a &#8220;spare tire&#8221; storage underneath.<br />
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		<title>By: koz</title>
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		<dc:creator>koz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 00:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ooops, tried to stop before posting

&quot;at the back of the rear view mirrors&quot; should be &quot;at the back of the &lt;em&gt;side&lt;/em&gt; mirrors&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooops, tried to stop before posting</p>
<p>&#8220;at the back of the rear view mirrors&#8221; should be &#8220;at the back of the <em>side</em> mirrors&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: koz</title>
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		<dc:creator>koz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 00:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nasaman,

I read further down in the article. Yes, scratch resistant coating is still a lot different from glass. They do mention PC being used for fixed side windows, but the modulus is sufficient for rolling windows. Another drag reducing possibility mentioned before that this PC would be good for is as a &quot;flow return&quot; at the back of the rear view mirrors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nasaman,</p>
<p>I read further down in the article. Yes, scratch resistant coating is still a lot different from glass. They do mention PC being used for fixed side windows, but the modulus is sufficient for rolling windows. Another drag reducing possibility mentioned before that this PC would be good for is as a &#8220;flow return&#8221; at the back of the rear view mirrors.</p>
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		<title>By: nasaman</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/05/23/fiberglass-research-chevy-volt-has-been-completed/#comment-42322</link>
		<dc:creator>nasaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 23:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>104 noel park.....

Re: Nav systems: Tell your wife GM&#039;s optional $2,500 nav system isn&#039;t as good as the one GM now includes &quot;free&quot; (whether or not the buyer wants it). It&#039;s fully integrated with even GM&#039;s cheapest AM/FM/XM/CD sound system ---it has a &lt;em&gt;great&lt;/em&gt; display, costs only $9.95/mo to use &amp; the &quot;points of interest&quot;, road rerouting, etc are all kept current in OnStar&#039;s central computers. &lt;em&gt;No kidding, it&#039;s absolutely brilliant ---and much easier/safer to use than any of the several Garmins &amp; Magellans I&#039;ve had (or still have)!&lt;/em&gt;

Re: the HP45, which I also loved. And I still have my mag-card programmable successor to the HP45 ---the HP65, which (in lieu of any ground or other computers) we used to do ALL the docking maneuvers on Apollo-Soyuz ....the 1st time the US &amp; the USSR docked two spacecraft together in July 1975. An amazing pocket-sized machine &amp; &lt;em&gt;far&lt;/em&gt; &lt;em&gt;more reliable&lt;/em&gt; than any of about 6 cell phones I&#039;ve owned!  

We now return to the topic of the &lt;em&gt;Volt&#039;s&lt;/em&gt; &quot;bells &amp; whistles&quot; ;)  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>104 noel park&#8230;..</p>
<p>Re: Nav systems: Tell your wife GM&#8217;s optional $2,500 nav system isn&#8217;t as good as the one GM now includes &#8220;free&#8221; (whether or not the buyer wants it). It&#8217;s fully integrated with even GM&#8217;s cheapest AM/FM/XM/CD sound system &#8212;it has a <em>great</em> display, costs only $9.95/mo to use &amp; the &#8220;points of interest&#8221;, road rerouting, etc are all kept current in OnStar&#8217;s central computers. <em>No kidding, it&#8217;s absolutely brilliant &#8212;and much easier/safer to use than any of the several Garmins &amp; Magellans I&#8217;ve had (or still have)!</em></p>
<p>Re: the HP45, which I also loved. And I still have my mag-card programmable successor to the HP45 &#8212;the HP65, which (in lieu of any ground or other computers) we used to do ALL the docking maneuvers on Apollo-Soyuz &#8230;.the 1st time the US &amp; the USSR docked two spacecraft together in July 1975. An amazing pocket-sized machine &amp; <em>far</em> <em>more reliable</em> than any of about 6 cell phones I&#8217;ve owned!  </p>
<p>We now return to the topic of the <em>Volt&#8217;s</em> &#8220;bells &amp; whistles&#8221; <img src='http://gm-volt.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
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		<title>By: RB</title>
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		<dc:creator>RB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 20:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>96 Koz -- Yes, title transfers.  The dealer sells a car the dealer owns.  It is not there on consignment.  Of course, GM is interested in what is happening all down the line, and may have financed the dealer in the interim, or the customer, or may give rebates or incentives to either as a marketing tool. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>96 Koz &#8212; Yes, title transfers.  The dealer sells a car the dealer owns.  It is not there on consignment.  Of course, GM is interested in what is happening all down the line, and may have financed the dealer in the interim, or the customer, or may give rebates or incentives to either as a marketing tool. </p>
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		<title>By: noel park</title>
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		<dc:creator>noel park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 20:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#34 Gsned57:

Well I think George II vetoed the last bill with that language in it, so we need to cross our fingers.  Or maybe next year.

#99 nasaman, #101 Statik, and all of the rest of you faithful bloggers:

Considering the scary stock price and market cap numbers that Statik keeps forcing us to see, I offer the following:

If anyone is going to save GM, it is going to be loyal people like you all, and Lyle for providing a platform to allow you to hold the mirror of reality at the grass roots up to the GM brass.

You are the salt of the earth.  Blog on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#34 Gsned57:</p>
<p>Well I think George II vetoed the last bill with that language in it, so we need to cross our fingers.  Or maybe next year.</p>
<p>#99 nasaman, #101 Statik, and all of the rest of you faithful bloggers:</p>
<p>Considering the scary stock price and market cap numbers that Statik keeps forcing us to see, I offer the following:</p>
<p>If anyone is going to save GM, it is going to be loyal people like you all, and Lyle for providing a platform to allow you to hold the mirror of reality at the grass roots up to the GM brass.</p>
<p>You are the salt of the earth.  Blog on!</p>
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		<title>By: noel park</title>
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		<dc:creator>noel park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 19:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#99 nasaman:

Well my wife has pronounced that she is not getting another car without a built in nav system, so I guess we will find out.  I am on my second Magellan and, while it&#039;s not perfect, it comes in really handy sometimes, especially when I get out of range of my good old Thomas guides.

I&#039;m just like Statik at #101.  Just don&#039;t give me a bunch of gee whiz features I don&#039;t need, or worse that I have to work around.  Like cameras on cell phones, video games ditto.  Also, hip hop ring tones BTW.

Autoweek has a review of various aftermarket nav boxes this week which pretty much mirrors my experience.

#101 Statik:

Retro cell phones, LOL!  What next?  If people collect vinyl records, tube stereo amps, old cars (me), and God knows what else, why not?  I wonder if the guy could find one of those &#039;80s vintage beauties that you carried around in a bag?  Gotta be able to use a headset if you want to use it in CA though.

I just found a guy to rebuild my HP 45.  The best calculator I ever had.  At least I had enough brains not to throw it away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#99 nasaman:</p>
<p>Well my wife has pronounced that she is not getting another car without a built in nav system, so I guess we will find out.  I am on my second Magellan and, while it&#8217;s not perfect, it comes in really handy sometimes, especially when I get out of range of my good old Thomas guides.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just like Statik at #101.  Just don&#8217;t give me a bunch of gee whiz features I don&#8217;t need, or worse that I have to work around.  Like cameras on cell phones, video games ditto.  Also, hip hop ring tones BTW.</p>
<p>Autoweek has a review of various aftermarket nav boxes this week which pretty much mirrors my experience.</p>
<p>#101 Statik:</p>
<p>Retro cell phones, LOL!  What next?  If people collect vinyl records, tube stereo amps, old cars (me), and God knows what else, why not?  I wonder if the guy could find one of those &#8217;80s vintage beauties that you carried around in a bag?  Gotta be able to use a headset if you want to use it in CA though.</p>
<p>I just found a guy to rebuild my HP 45.  The best calculator I ever had.  At least I had enough brains not to throw it away.</p>
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		<title>By: TED in Fort Myers</title>
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		<dc:creator>TED in Fort Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 18:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the update Lyle.   We here in Florida are very excited and would love to get an early glimpse and comment.   @$25000 with rebates we could afford two of em.  Make it so GM.  And oh by the way I sure would like to test the mule in the Florida Summer with 42 miles round trip to work.  TED</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update Lyle.   We here in Florida are very excited and would love to get an early glimpse and comment.   @$25000 with rebates we could afford two of em.  Make it so GM.  And oh by the way I sure would like to test the mule in the Florida Summer with 42 miles round trip to work.  TED</p>
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		<title>By: Statik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Statik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 18:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#99 George K

&quot;&lt;em&gt;...scaring the public into postponing large purchases, which, of course, could put us into a recesson (which isn’t the end of the world either).&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I agree with you that a recession maybe isn&#039;t a bad thing.  

Every couple decades we need a reality check...and if it isn&#039;t a big one check,  like a full blown recession, the whole economy just slowly degrades year after year until equilibrium is reached, which sucks.

It&#039;s better to just hit the bottom, instantly reteaching/punshing everyone on cyclical fundamentals...then after the hit is taken you go right into a year over year improvement  he bottom.  Easier on the psyche...and doesn&#039;t punish those of us who adjusted our lifestyle/habits in front of the curve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#99 George K</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>&#8230;scaring the public into postponing large purchases, which, of course, could put us into a recesson (which isn’t the end of the world either).&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I agree with you that a recession maybe isn&#8217;t a bad thing.  </p>
<p>Every couple decades we need a reality check&#8230;and if it isn&#8217;t a big one check,  like a full blown recession, the whole economy just slowly degrades year after year until equilibrium is reached, which sucks.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s better to just hit the bottom, instantly reteaching/punshing everyone on cyclical fundamentals&#8230;then after the hit is taken you go right into a year over year improvement  he bottom.  Easier on the psyche&#8230;and doesn&#8217;t punish those of us who adjusted our lifestyle/habits in front of the curve.</p>
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		<title>By: Statik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Statik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 18:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#98 Noel

Amen on the cell phones!  I had a new phone with the camera and all that jazz...the thing was crap.  Cheap, flimsy, didn&#039;t hold a signal worth a hoot.  (I donated it to the wife...she would argue my points as she loves it!)

I actually missed my old Motorall StarTAC so much, I went out and bought a &#039;brand new&#039; 1997 version (never used in the box) off a &#039;retro guy&#039; for $300...which I use now!  It&#039;s hella small, moron simple and is a beast at holding a signal.

Handy linkage:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.retrobrick.com/motostartac.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.retrobrick.com/motostartac.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#98 Noel</p>
<p>Amen on the cell phones!  I had a new phone with the camera and all that jazz&#8230;the thing was crap.  Cheap, flimsy, didn&#8217;t hold a signal worth a hoot.  (I donated it to the wife&#8230;she would argue my points as she loves it!)</p>
<p>I actually missed my old Motorall StarTAC so much, I went out and bought a &#8216;brand new&#8217; 1997 version (never used in the box) off a &#8216;retro guy&#8217; for $300&#8230;which I use now!  It&#8217;s hella small, moron simple and is a beast at holding a signal.</p>
<p>Handy linkage:<br />
<a href="http://www.retrobrick.com/motostartac.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.retrobrick.com/motostartac.html</a></p>
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