Comments on: Toyota Attacks the Volt…Again http://gm-volt.com/2008/04/18/toyota-attacks-the-voltagain/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 03:11:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jason http://gm-volt.com/2008/04/18/toyota-attacks-the-voltagain/#comment-38648 Jason Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:38:13 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1023#comment-38648 I love how people are warning about Lith-Ion safety, and yet every day we put one up to our ear and our eyes...cell phone and camera! I love how people are warning about Lith-Ion safety, and yet every day we put one up to our ear and our eyes…cell phone and camera!

]]> By: ev http://gm-volt.com/2008/04/18/toyota-attacks-the-voltagain/#comment-38249 ev Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:55:32 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1023#comment-38249 Most of you are losing the point. Toyota is just stating a economic fact. Phevs are more cost/beneficial. That's not an attack on the Volt because it's a fact. So the people who write provocative headlines ought to stop distorting it and people reading it ought to be more clear headed. There is unnecessary fiddling with emotions. Toyota isn't as transparent as GM. Do you really think Toyota hasn't done any r&d on EVs or E revs. Every automaker has a secret floor where they have prototypes not open to the public. And Toyota is much better at hiding that than GM. Toyota spends more r&d than GM for SURE. Even IF by chance Toyota has little on EV or E REVs they can turn out a car faster than any of the big 3, about 18 months to 24 months. GM takes close to 48 months. Heck it's been 4 years and GM STILL does not have a hybrid that compares to a Prius. I won't believe in Toyota or GM on EVs or Erevs or Phev until they put them on the driveways of people. GM and Toyota are going with fleet cars first so it'll be a min. of 2 years before the avg. citizen gets to buy one. By the time E revs comes out EVs will probably be taking off. Finding solutions in the future for today's problems is ridiculous. Today's problems can be solved initially with full hybrids and Tomorrow's with e-rev and EVs (that-s just for gas automakers). For other companies like Tesla they have tomorrow's and today's problems' solutions now. Most of you are losing the point.
Toyota is just stating a economic fact. Phevs are more cost/beneficial. That’s not an attack on the Volt because it’s a fact. So the people who write provocative headlines ought to stop distorting it and people reading it ought to be more clear headed. There is unnecessary fiddling with emotions.

Toyota isn’t as transparent as GM. Do you really think Toyota hasn’t done any r&d on EVs or E revs. Every automaker has a secret floor where they have prototypes not open to the public. And Toyota is much better at hiding that than GM. Toyota spends more r&d than GM for SURE. Even IF by chance Toyota has little on EV or E REVs they can turn out a car faster than any of the big 3, about 18 months to 24 months. GM takes close to 48 months. Heck it’s been 4 years and GM STILL does not have a hybrid that compares to a Prius.

I won’t believe in Toyota or GM on EVs or Erevs or Phev until they put them on the driveways of people. GM and Toyota are going with fleet cars first so it’ll be a min. of 2 years before the avg. citizen gets to buy one.

By the time E revs comes out EVs will probably be taking off. Finding solutions in the future for today’s problems is ridiculous. Today’s problems can be solved initially with full hybrids and Tomorrow’s with e-rev and EVs (that-s just for gas automakers).

For other companies like Tesla they have tomorrow’s and today’s problems’ solutions now.

]]> By: Jim I http://gm-volt.com/2008/04/18/toyota-attacks-the-voltagain/#comment-37873 Jim I Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:18:54 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1023#comment-37873 Rouser: I have a son in the military, who is risking his life to defend the rights of everyone here to be able to share their opinions. And yes, it was his choice to do so. But I think you should thank the next soldier you meet for allowing you to be able to "think outside the box". Because without them, you may not have that privilege........ And again, I think this should not be discussed in this thread! Rouser:

I have a son in the military, who is risking his life to defend the rights of everyone here to be able to share their opinions. And yes, it was his choice to do so.

But I think you should thank the next soldier you meet for allowing you to be able to “think outside the box”. Because without them, you may not have that privilege……..

And again, I think this should not be discussed in this thread!

]]> By: Bob http://gm-volt.com/2008/04/18/toyota-attacks-the-voltagain/#comment-37831 Bob Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:09:28 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1023#comment-37831 #135: "Many of the references to terrorism in these comments are naive. Most so-called terrorism occurs because our corporate controlled government pursues policies to further corporate riches that often conflicts with interests of the citizens of the countries we seek to manipulate or control." Sorry, I can't buy this. When Bin Laden says he will end the war on the West if we convert to Islam, what other proof is needed to understand they hate us for what we are, not for what we do? They are an intolerant ideology that views this as a thousand year struggle in a war of cultures. It started long before Iraq, or any other foreign policy you care to name. The oil money they use to fund their madrassas and terrorist operations will be cut off by moving on a massive scale to E-flex. This is why I said (#125) that jump starting massive use with more significant tax credits is a military expenditure. Hey Washington, we need LEADERSHIP on this. #135: “Many of the references to terrorism in these comments are naive. Most so-called terrorism occurs because our corporate controlled government pursues policies to further corporate riches that often conflicts with interests of the citizens of the countries we seek to manipulate or control.”
Sorry, I can’t buy this. When Bin Laden says he will end the war on the West if we convert to Islam, what other proof is needed to understand they hate us for what we are, not for what we do? They are an intolerant ideology that views this as a thousand year struggle in a war of cultures. It started long before Iraq, or any other foreign policy you care to name.
The oil money they use to fund their madrassas and terrorist operations will be cut off by moving on a massive scale to E-flex. This is why I said (#125) that jump starting massive use with more significant tax credits is a military expenditure. Hey Washington, we need LEADERSHIP on this.

]]> By: Rouser http://gm-volt.com/2008/04/18/toyota-attacks-the-voltagain/#comment-37758 Rouser Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:15:03 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1023#comment-37758 Jim I, I agree the topic of conversation has shifted a bit in this section. However, I am merely framing reference to the several postings in this section citing fighting terrorism as motivation for purchasing EVs. Expressing views that are not spoon-fed to me by our government and media is not a diatribe. Try to think just slightly outside of the box once in a while. It's a useful exercise! Jim I,

I agree the topic of conversation has shifted a bit in this section. However, I am merely framing reference to the several postings in this section citing fighting terrorism as motivation for purchasing EVs.

Expressing views that are not spoon-fed to me by our government and media is not a diatribe. Try to think just slightly outside of the box once in a while. It’s a useful exercise!

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