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	<title>Comments on: Production Volt Exterior Design and Appearance: When Will We See it All?</title>
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		<title>By: DD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was somewhat disappointed to learn and see the actual photos of the new Chevy Volt (via Yahoo news/Internet) that this vehicle has been displayed at the 2008 China Auto Show this past weekend!  Guess you don&#039;t have to guess anymore...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was somewhat disappointed to learn and see the actual photos of the new Chevy Volt (via Yahoo news/Internet) that this vehicle has been displayed at the 2008 China Auto Show this past weekend!  Guess you don&#8217;t have to guess anymore&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: terri voneye</title>
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		<dc:creator>terri voneye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have they considerd a couple of tubes that are hooked to a couple of small wind turbine generators to assist in charging the batteries on the highway, so the motor may not have to run so much for better gas MPG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have they considerd a couple of tubes that are hooked to a couple of small wind turbine generators to assist in charging the batteries on the highway, so the motor may not have to run so much for better gas MPG.</p>
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		<title>By: CM</title>
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		<dc:creator>CM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 04:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#173 Paul: GM is likely to use AC induction motors for the Volt, as they have experience with them, they are brushless, reliable, high efficiency, and cost slightly less than brushless permenent magnet synchronous motors. 

#185 Carol: The Canadian government doesn&#039;t allow low speed &quot;neighborhood electric vehicles&quot; on the hiways, as their maximum speed is only 35 to 40 mph, and they don&#039;t meet the same safety requirements of faster vehicles. Some Canadian cities are allowing NEVs on residential streets with speed limits of 35 mph or less. An electric car capable of freeway speeds and meeting full safety standards are allowed on all roads. 

The idea of a swappable battery is a common one. There are some technical details to work out, the batteries would have to be leased from the battery swap company, and it is not entirely clear if the economics works out. Project Better Place is trying to develop a swappable battery pack system, along with public recharge stations. 
http://www.projectbetterplace.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#173 Paul: GM is likely to use AC induction motors for the Volt, as they have experience with them, they are brushless, reliable, high efficiency, and cost slightly less than brushless permenent magnet synchronous motors. </p>
<p>#185 Carol: The Canadian government doesn&#8217;t allow low speed &#8220;neighborhood electric vehicles&#8221; on the hiways, as their maximum speed is only 35 to 40 mph, and they don&#8217;t meet the same safety requirements of faster vehicles. Some Canadian cities are allowing NEVs on residential streets with speed limits of 35 mph or less. An electric car capable of freeway speeds and meeting full safety standards are allowed on all roads. </p>
<p>The idea of a swappable battery is a common one. There are some technical details to work out, the batteries would have to be leased from the battery swap company, and it is not entirely clear if the economics works out. Project Better Place is trying to develop a swappable battery pack system, along with public recharge stations.<br />
<a href="http://www.projectbetterplace.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.projectbetterplace.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: CM</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/04/06/production-volt-exterior-design-and-appearance-when-will-we-see-it-all/#comment-36845</link>
		<dc:creator>CM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#171 Al: I think you misunderstood, the &quot;conversion loss&quot; I mentioned wasn&#039;t including the efficiency of the IC engine itself, but rather the loss in converting mechanical power into electrical power, then back again at the wheels.  Most of my information came from the Tesla Motors website, Wikipedia, and various other sources. 

Rectification is unlikely to &quot;eat&quot; 70% going from AC to DC. Checking Wikipedia under &quot;rectifier&quot;, I find that the peak voltage drop for a silicon diode is 0.7 volts, two diodes in a bridge rectifier would be a 1.4 volt drop. I&#039;m not sure what voltage the Volt will be using, but even at a modest 240 volts AC the rectifier operates at over 99% efficiency, less than 1% loss! Now if you were to rectify a mere 2.8 volts AC, the efficiency is only 50% due to voltage drop, but somehow I don&#039;t think that would be useful to power an electric car! Hmm, maybe you were confusing it with some older less efficient rectifier, but I&#039;m not aware of any that are that inefficient. 

The 33% figure you quote from Capstone includes both turbine efficiency and generator efficiency, but not &quot;motor to wheel&quot;, adding that in would drop it to about 31%, still well above the efficiency of a typical non-hybrid. 

Now figuring an overall &quot;Tank to Wheel&quot; efficiency comparison between non-hybid petrol cars and electric hybrids gets a bit more complicated. Both types have thermodynamic losses in the IC engine.  The electric hybrid has conversion losses not seen in non-hybrids, but series and split path hybrids can take advantage of several energy saving efficiency boosting techniques not available in non-hybrids, such as: Regenerative braking, Engine shutoff/autostart, low speed electric only operation, Atkinson/Miller cycle IC engines, and keeping IC engine speed near optimum regardless of road speed. Also, non-hybrid automatic transmission cars have torque converter losses not found in Series or Split Path hybrids. The result is higher overall efficiency for hybrids, and the real proof is in the on-road performance. It really is possible to get 45 to 55 mpg with reasonably good driving, as more than a few Prius drivers can tell you. While the fuel efficiency of a series hybrid like the Volt may turn out to be slightly less, it will still be well above the efficiency of a non-hybrid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#171 Al: I think you misunderstood, the &#8220;conversion loss&#8221; I mentioned wasn&#8217;t including the efficiency of the IC engine itself, but rather the loss in converting mechanical power into electrical power, then back again at the wheels.  Most of my information came from the Tesla Motors website, Wikipedia, and various other sources. </p>
<p>Rectification is unlikely to &#8220;eat&#8221; 70% going from AC to DC. Checking Wikipedia under &#8220;rectifier&#8221;, I find that the peak voltage drop for a silicon diode is 0.7 volts, two diodes in a bridge rectifier would be a 1.4 volt drop. I&#8217;m not sure what voltage the Volt will be using, but even at a modest 240 volts AC the rectifier operates at over 99% efficiency, less than 1% loss! Now if you were to rectify a mere 2.8 volts AC, the efficiency is only 50% due to voltage drop, but somehow I don&#8217;t think that would be useful to power an electric car! Hmm, maybe you were confusing it with some older less efficient rectifier, but I&#8217;m not aware of any that are that inefficient. </p>
<p>The 33% figure you quote from Capstone includes both turbine efficiency and generator efficiency, but not &#8220;motor to wheel&#8221;, adding that in would drop it to about 31%, still well above the efficiency of a typical non-hybrid. </p>
<p>Now figuring an overall &#8220;Tank to Wheel&#8221; efficiency comparison between non-hybid petrol cars and electric hybrids gets a bit more complicated. Both types have thermodynamic losses in the IC engine.  The electric hybrid has conversion losses not seen in non-hybrids, but series and split path hybrids can take advantage of several energy saving efficiency boosting techniques not available in non-hybrids, such as: Regenerative braking, Engine shutoff/autostart, low speed electric only operation, Atkinson/Miller cycle IC engines, and keeping IC engine speed near optimum regardless of road speed. Also, non-hybrid automatic transmission cars have torque converter losses not found in Series or Split Path hybrids. The result is higher overall efficiency for hybrids, and the real proof is in the on-road performance. It really is possible to get 45 to 55 mpg with reasonably good driving, as more than a few Prius drivers can tell you. While the fuel efficiency of a series hybrid like the Volt may turn out to be slightly less, it will still be well above the efficiency of a non-hybrid.</p>
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		<title>By: jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, #25

51 MPG

$189.00 PER MONTH

I bought one. Honda Civic Hybrid. Now can GM match that?

I still want to shop and compare when the Chevy Volt hits the market though. So at least I will have something to compare it to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, #25</p>
<p>51 MPG</p>
<p>$189.00 PER MONTH</p>
<p>I bought one. Honda Civic Hybrid. Now can GM match that?</p>
<p>I still want to shop and compare when the Chevy Volt hits the market though. So at least I will have something to compare it to.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m looking forward to having more electric options on the market.  I&#039;ve never bought a new vehicle, but would be willing to buy a Volt or similar to support the technology. However, $30,000 is out of my league.  I&#039;ve been following the ZENN/EESTOR story, and it&#039;s hard not to be skeptical.  I live in BC Canada, ZENN is a Canadian company, but nowhere in Canada is there legislation to allow electric vehicles on the roads.  My understanding is that BC is the only province with the first level of leg required, but municipalities then have to create by-laws to allow.  I don&#039;t know how it works in the States.
I heard an interesting idea this week to deal with the range issue (altho don&#039;t know how viable). Instead of getting gas at stations while on a trip, people could pick up a full charged battery, and leave the one in their car.  ?
Thanks for all the info.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to having more electric options on the market.  I&#8217;ve never bought a new vehicle, but would be willing to buy a Volt or similar to support the technology. However, $30,000 is out of my league.  I&#8217;ve been following the ZENN/EESTOR story, and it&#8217;s hard not to be skeptical.  I live in BC Canada, ZENN is a Canadian company, but nowhere in Canada is there legislation to allow electric vehicles on the roads.  My understanding is that BC is the only province with the first level of leg required, but municipalities then have to create by-laws to allow.  I don&#8217;t know how it works in the States.<br />
I heard an interesting idea this week to deal with the range issue (altho don&#8217;t know how viable). Instead of getting gas at stations while on a trip, people could pick up a full charged battery, and leave the one in their car.  ?<br />
Thanks for all the info&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: fixerdo</title>
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		<dc:creator>fixerdo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do we have these people that don&#039;t have any styling sense, make decisions about the look of a car.

The initial look of the Volt is great. Just give the rear of the car the same styling look of the rest of the car and then you&#039;ll have a truly awesome looking car. The rear &quot; squat &quot; look is odd.

That&#039;s what we want to drive in. Great looking cars. Not corporate committee chosen crap.

Volt is not a hybrid. Its the only true electric car that happens to have a battery charger inside the vehicle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do we have these people that don&#8217;t have any styling sense, make decisions about the look of a car.</p>
<p>The initial look of the Volt is great. Just give the rear of the car the same styling look of the rest of the car and then you&#8217;ll have a truly awesome looking car. The rear &#8221; squat &#8221; look is odd.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what we want to drive in. Great looking cars. Not corporate committee chosen crap.</p>
<p>Volt is not a hybrid. Its the only true electric car that happens to have a battery charger inside the vehicle.</p>
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		<title>By: fixerdo</title>
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		<dc:creator>fixerdo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant &quot; Great Look &quot;. Oops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant &#8221; Great Look &#8220;. Oops.</p>
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		<title>By: fixerdo</title>
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		<dc:creator>fixerdo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get look but of course someone is going to screw it up and not allow the kind of styling that will attract real car lovers.

The only problem  I have is how the rear of the car looks.
Its too squat looking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get look but of course someone is going to screw it up and not allow the kind of styling that will attract real car lovers.</p>
<p>The only problem  I have is how the rear of the car looks.<br />
Its too squat looking.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that the changes to the front end and the height have disappointed me, it looks like the front tires have moved back somewhat too (I assume as a result of the front end changes).

With the raised top I feel like I am looking at a 1980 ford Mustang. And those tires look tiny! For as much as this vehicle will cost put some decent tires on it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that the changes to the front end and the height have disappointed me, it looks like the front tires have moved back somewhat too (I assume as a result of the front end changes).</p>
<p>With the raised top I feel like I am looking at a 1980 ford Mustang. And those tires look tiny! For as much as this vehicle will cost put some decent tires on it!</p>
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