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	<title>Comments on: Volt Nation Press Coverage:  A Million Volts, GM expects to Lose Money at First</title>
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		<title>By: Koz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nasaman, perhaps Lyle can extract GM&#039;s responses to the questions in your folder. This way only the questions with answers need only be posted and thus GM is setup as the fall guy for not answering the questions that didn&#039;t make your cut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nasaman, perhaps Lyle can extract GM&#8217;s responses to the questions in your folder. This way only the questions with answers need only be posted and thus GM is setup as the fall guy for not answering the questions that didn&#8217;t make your cut.</p>
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		<title>By: George K</title>
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		<dc:creator>George K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My thanks to Lyle for making this historic event happen!  It was also great meeting nasaman, tagamet, reshiid, and others, as well as the GM people!

One tidbit I got was from Tim (don&#039;t remember last name) words directly for Bob Boniface.  He said that the inside and outside design were almost frozen.  He also said the size will be  larger than the current Cobalt and that the car sits higher than the show car, and the trunk is larger.

Tagamet #64, thanks for the photos  Thats me # 27 and 28 asking the question about the volt roll out.
I&#039;m on a library computer and about to get kicked off. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thanks to Lyle for making this historic event happen!  It was also great meeting nasaman, tagamet, reshiid, and others, as well as the GM people!</p>
<p>One tidbit I got was from Tim (don&#8217;t remember last name) words directly for Bob Boniface.  He said that the inside and outside design were almost frozen.  He also said the size will be  larger than the current Cobalt and that the car sits higher than the show car, and the trunk is larger.</p>
<p>Tagamet #64, thanks for the photos  Thats me # 27 and 28 asking the question about the volt roll out.<br />
I&#8217;m on a library computer and about to get kicked off. </p>
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		<title>By: omegaman66</title>
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		<dc:creator>omegaman66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the cult thing.  I am as far away from a tree hugger as you can get and I am here.  Why? Not because I want to save the enviroment but because I recognize the Volt E-REV is the wave of the future.  I want a E-REV because it is so much cheaper to drive than a gas powered car or truck...  I want one because they should be more dependable and last longer... I want one because eventually they should be cheaper than a ICE car or truck.

As I have said I am no tree hugger in the traditional sense of the word but that doesn&#039;t mean I WANT to destroy the enviroment... nobody WANTS to destroy the enviroment.

Cost effiecient technology is the only technology that is going to be used enough to &quot;Save the Plantet&quot;.  And I see this is the way to go!  Wind and solar are getting closer to powering this country AS THE COST comes down.

I have to laugh when I see articles stating that wind OR solar could power 20% of our power needs ultimately.  What a joke.  If solar covering a roof can power an entire of grid home that means potentially all homes could go off grid.

But I digress... the point is that anyone that thing the groundswell of support and interest in the Volt is by a small group of tree huggers they are just plain wrong.  This die hard hunting and fishing, boat towing, conservative is dying for this type of technology to sweep the auto industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the cult thing.  I am as far away from a tree hugger as you can get and I am here.  Why? Not because I want to save the enviroment but because I recognize the Volt E-REV is the wave of the future.  I want a E-REV because it is so much cheaper to drive than a gas powered car or truck&#8230;  I want one because they should be more dependable and last longer&#8230; I want one because eventually they should be cheaper than a ICE car or truck.</p>
<p>As I have said I am no tree hugger in the traditional sense of the word but that doesn&#8217;t mean I WANT to destroy the enviroment&#8230; nobody WANTS to destroy the enviroment.</p>
<p>Cost effiecient technology is the only technology that is going to be used enough to &quot;Save the Plantet&quot;.  And I see this is the way to go!  Wind and solar are getting closer to powering this country AS THE COST comes down.</p>
<p>I have to laugh when I see articles stating that wind OR solar could power 20% of our power needs ultimately.  What a joke.  If solar covering a roof can power an entire of grid home that means potentially all homes could go off grid.</p>
<p>But I digress&#8230; the point is that anyone that thing the groundswell of support and interest in the Volt is by a small group of tree huggers they are just plain wrong.  This die hard hunting and fishing, boat towing, conservative is dying for this type of technology to sweep the auto industry.</p>
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		<title>By: nasaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>nasaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, regarding Lyle, I&#039;ll be bold enough to retell a couple of things I learned from his lovely &amp; very dedicated wife (dedicated to the Volt, that is ....her jury might still be out on Lyle :) ). I always prefer asking forgiveness rather than permission, so here it is.....

The night BEFORE Volt Nation, Lyle was presented an award for breakthrough work in his &quot;day job&quot; at one of the hospitals he uses in his practice of Neurology. She said the thing seemed to weigh about 20 lbs!

She added, they have a 6-yr old son who&#039;s already started his own blog (I wonder how long it&#039;ll be before Lyle&#039;s asking his son, as well as his wife, for help with gm-volt.com!) 

I was impressed by this &quot;inside information&quot; .....aren&#039;t you? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, regarding Lyle, I&#8217;ll be bold enough to retell a couple of things I learned from his lovely &amp; very dedicated wife (dedicated to the Volt, that is &#8230;.her jury might still be out on Lyle <img src='http://gm-volt.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ). I always prefer asking forgiveness rather than permission, so here it is&#8230;..</p>
<p>The night BEFORE Volt Nation, Lyle was presented an award for breakthrough work in his &quot;day job&quot; at one of the hospitals he uses in his practice of Neurology. She said the thing seemed to weigh about 20 lbs!</p>
<p>She added, they have a 6-yr old son who&#8217;s already started his own blog (I wonder how long it&#8217;ll be before Lyle&#8217;s asking his son, as well as his wife, for help with gm-volt.com!) </p>
<p>I was impressed by this &quot;inside information&quot; &#8230;..aren&#8217;t you? <img src='http://gm-volt.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: nasaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>nasaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;46 Tagamet.....

You said, &quot;When I talked to Nasaman at the show, I THINK he said he’d given the group’s questions to Lyle to pass along or had done so himself, so meeting time would be saved....&quot;

&lt;/em&gt;You&#039;re right, Tagamet. I decided not to single out any of the many questions (some frankly trivial, many important) that I culled from this site to ask during the meeting, but instead to give Bob Lutz a folder (of 15 copies) directly ---enough copies to pass along to key Volt team members if he so choses. I&#039;m still debating whether to post these questions here because I don&#039;t want to start a firestorm of discussion along the lines of &quot;why wasn&#039;t THIS question included instead of THAT one?&quot; ....I&#039;ll first send our tireless leader Lyle a copy of these questions by PM &amp; give him time to offer his wise advise this.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>46 Tagamet&#8230;..</p>
<p>You said, &quot;When I talked to Nasaman at the show, I THINK he said he’d given the group’s questions to Lyle to pass along or had done so himself, so meeting time would be saved&#8230;.&quot;</p>
<p></em>You&#8217;re right, Tagamet. I decided not to single out any of the many questions (some frankly trivial, many important) that I culled from this site to ask during the meeting, but instead to give Bob Lutz a folder (of 15 copies) directly &#8212;enough copies to pass along to key Volt team members if he so choses. I&#8217;m still debating whether to post these questions here because I don&#8217;t want to start a firestorm of discussion along the lines of &quot;why wasn&#8217;t THIS question included instead of THAT one?&quot; &#8230;.I&#8217;ll first send our tireless leader Lyle a copy of these questions by PM &amp; give him time to offer his wise advise this.  </p>
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		<title>By: nasaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>nasaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;35 Estero....

&lt;/em&gt;After everyone else had left Volt Nation, a couple of us (our Thom, also a &quot;technoweenie&quot; &amp; myself) stayed over until much later that night to &quot;chew the rag&quot;, visit a few other displays like Nissan&#039;s &amp; Saturn&#039;s &amp; get some pictures. Thom then graciously drove me back to my hotel (it was raining steadily) and all he got in return was the worn-out excuse of an umbrella that&#039;s lived in my briefcase for 10 yrs, forgotten in his car! &lt;strong&gt;Thanks a million Thom --toss that piece of s**t umbrella out, as Lutz might say it!!!&lt;/strong&gt; 

Then  at the last minute I decided to stay over another day (my daughter, her husband &amp; my two precious grandkids of theirs live in Cold Spring NY &amp; he works in NYC). Sooo, paraphasing Mark Twain, my abduction by aliens ....uhh, I meant by GM ....has been greatly exaggerated! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>35 Estero&#8230;.</p>
<p></em>After everyone else had left Volt Nation, a couple of us (our Thom, also a &quot;technoweenie&quot; &amp; myself) stayed over until much later that night to &quot;chew the rag&quot;, visit a few other displays like Nissan&#8217;s &amp; Saturn&#8217;s &amp; get some pictures. Thom then graciously drove me back to my hotel (it was raining steadily) and all he got in return was the worn-out excuse of an umbrella that&#8217;s lived in my briefcase for 10 yrs, forgotten in his car! <strong>Thanks a million Thom &#8211;toss that piece of s**t umbrella out, as Lutz might say it!!!</strong> </p>
<p>Then  at the last minute I decided to stay over another day (my daughter, her husband &amp; my two precious grandkids of theirs live in Cold Spring NY &amp; he works in NYC). Sooo, paraphasing Mark Twain, my abduction by aliens &#8230;.uhh, I meant by GM &#8230;.has been greatly exaggerated! <img src='http://gm-volt.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MLRTYME</title>
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		<dc:creator>MLRTYME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would make sense to have a system that was capable of working at more than just a single speed, for differing variables.  I know that when we run engines on the dyno, we are consistently working to find the highest volumetric efficiency to produce maximum output.  When the engine temperature varies, so does the optimal RPM range, as shown by the readings printed out after a pull.  We have also seen engines show output increases at a different RPM range when we place different loads on them (add a stage to the dry-sump system, run a magnetic pick-up distributor vs. a crank trigger system, etc...).  Having seen numerical figures specifically identify that changes in the system state causing fluctuation in optimum RPM for max % volumetric efficiency and/or maximum output capabilities, I can easily see why the engineers would need to allow for flexibility in the system.  By creating options for the system to determine which RPM is most desired for the given generator&#039;s output capabilities, I see the ability for the system to optimize fuel economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would make sense to have a system that was capable of working at more than just a single speed, for differing variables.  I know that when we run engines on the dyno, we are consistently working to find the highest volumetric efficiency to produce maximum output.  When the engine temperature varies, so does the optimal RPM range, as shown by the readings printed out after a pull.  We have also seen engines show output increases at a different RPM range when we place different loads on them (add a stage to the dry-sump system, run a magnetic pick-up distributor vs. a crank trigger system, etc&#8230;).  Having seen numerical figures specifically identify that changes in the system state causing fluctuation in optimum RPM for max % volumetric efficiency and/or maximum output capabilities, I can easily see why the engineers would need to allow for flexibility in the system.  By creating options for the system to determine which RPM is most desired for the given generator&#8217;s output capabilities, I see the ability for the system to optimize fuel economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Tagamet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tagamet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Lyle, I just noticed that the website didn&#039;t recognize the Daylight Savings time change. Don&#039;t sweat the small stuff though. It&#039;ll just change again in 6 months (g).
That was quite a &quot;happening&quot; on Wednesday. THANKS AGAIN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Lyle, I just noticed that the website didn&#8217;t recognize the Daylight Savings time change. Don&#8217;t sweat the small stuff though. It&#8217;ll just change again in 6 months (g).<br />
That was quite a &quot;happening&quot; on Wednesday. THANKS AGAIN!</p>
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		<title>By: Tagamet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tagamet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Thats a bunch of BS&quot; - Arch

Arch, you may be the best engineer on the planet, but how could you know this when you &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;CAN&#039;T&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; know all the variables that the GM team is juggling? The BS quotient at that meeting was remarkable low (trust me, I&#039;m a shrink who&#039;s fairly well atuned to BS)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Thats a bunch of BS&quot; &#8211; Arch</p>
<p>Arch, you may be the best engineer on the planet, but how could you know this when you <strong><em>CAN&#8217;T</em></strong> know all the variables that the GM team is juggling? The BS quotient at that meeting was remarkable low (trust me, I&#8217;m a shrink who&#8217;s fairly well atuned to BS)</p>
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		<title>By: Koz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 03:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AES, there was some inconsistancy with acceleration. I believe it was Frank Weber that stated 9 seconds 0-60MPH and later Bob Lutz mentioned 7 seconds. Bob motioned to Frank to verify and Farnk shook his head yes, so perhaps the 9 was a mistake. IMO 7 seems fast for the motor specs they&#039;ve given, but it&#039;s too early to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AES, there was some inconsistancy with acceleration. I believe it was Frank Weber that stated 9 seconds 0-60MPH and later Bob Lutz mentioned 7 seconds. Bob motioned to Frank to verify and Farnk shook his head yes, so perhaps the 9 was a mistake. IMO 7 seems fast for the motor specs they&#8217;ve given, but it&#8217;s too early to say.</p>
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