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		<title>By: Mark McVeigh</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/26/lithium-ion-battery-separators/#comment-93342</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark McVeigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 03:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve got the wrong battery, kids.  Even GM knows the Lithium Titinate Oxide battery will out perform the current battery by at least 100% and at far better heat ranges.  Who are you trying to put this off on... the general public?

Good Luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve got the wrong battery, kids.  Even GM knows the Lithium Titinate Oxide battery will out perform the current battery by at least 100% and at far better heat ranges.  Who are you trying to put this off on&#8230; the general public?</p>
<p>Good Luck</p>
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		<title>By: The Battery Vehicle Society &#187; Blog Archive &#187; GM-VOLT: Lithium-ion Battery Separators</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/26/lithium-ion-battery-separators/#comment-31556</link>
		<dc:creator>The Battery Vehicle Society &#187; Blog Archive &#187; GM-VOLT: Lithium-ion Battery Separators</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on?  Want to know more about the internal structure of lithium-ion batteries?  If so, check out GM-VOLT&#8217;s excellent article on the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on?  Want to know more about the internal structure of lithium-ion batteries?  If so, check out GM-VOLT&#8217;s excellent article on the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NZDavid</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/26/lithium-ion-battery-separators/#comment-31523</link>
		<dc:creator>NZDavid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tagamet, 2010 increase says a lot. Interesting times we live in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tagamet, 2010 increase says a lot. Interesting times we live in.</p>
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		<title>By: noel park</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/26/lithium-ion-battery-separators/#comment-31506</link>
		<dc:creator>noel park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>32 Adam:

Tell it like it is, brother!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>32 Adam:</p>
<p>Tell it like it is, brother!</p>
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		<title>By: Tagamet</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/26/lithium-ion-battery-separators/#comment-31500</link>
		<dc:creator>Tagamet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.greencarcongress.com/2008/02/asahi-kasei-che.html#more</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.greencarcongress.com/2008/02/asahi-kasei-che.html#more" rel="nofollow">http://www.greencarcongress.com/2008/02/asahi-kasei-che.html#more</a></p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/26/lithium-ion-battery-separators/#comment-31489</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#34, I know, my fingers have a mind of their own, and refuse to listen to my brain..

How many f you fine gentlemen out there seen the movie &quot;On Deadly Ground&quot; with Steven Segal?  When is enough money enough?  The same translates here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#34, I know, my fingers have a mind of their own, and refuse to listen to my brain..</p>
<p>How many f you fine gentlemen out there seen the movie &#8220;On Deadly Ground&#8221; with Steven Segal?  When is enough money enough?  The same translates here.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike G.</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/26/lithium-ion-battery-separators/#comment-31481</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>response to #25

Chemical companies as a whole are constantly opening up new plants and those new plants are for the most part being openend in places like Saudi Arabia, Africa and the far east.  It isn&#039;t just tennis shoes and clothes that are moving to china.  Fewer and few things such as plastics are being shipped from the USA to overseas companies.  More and more those same grades of plastic are being shipped to the USA.  Oil companies provide a huge finacial boost to this country.  If they said good-bye and moved totally overseas this countrys way of life would be destroyed as they provide a huge portion of the taxes and support a huge number of families (huge employer).

It might sound nice to say things like &#039;go after big oil&#039; with taxes and such.  But to a large extent this country would be biting the hand that feeds it.  It isn&#039;t like ExxonMobil or Chevron NEED the USA... it is the other way around.  What are we going to do when they say enough is enough we are moving our head quarters overseas and locking the gate on these plants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>response to #25</p>
<p>Chemical companies as a whole are constantly opening up new plants and those new plants are for the most part being openend in places like Saudi Arabia, Africa and the far east.  It isn&#8217;t just tennis shoes and clothes that are moving to china.  Fewer and few things such as plastics are being shipped from the USA to overseas companies.  More and more those same grades of plastic are being shipped to the USA.  Oil companies provide a huge finacial boost to this country.  If they said good-bye and moved totally overseas this countrys way of life would be destroyed as they provide a huge portion of the taxes and support a huge number of families (huge employer).</p>
<p>It might sound nice to say things like &#8216;go after big oil&#8217; with taxes and such.  But to a large extent this country would be biting the hand that feeds it.  It isn&#8217;t like ExxonMobil or Chevron NEED the USA&#8230; it is the other way around.  What are we going to do when they say enough is enough we are moving our head quarters overseas and locking the gate on these plants.</p>
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		<title>By: Storm Connors</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/26/lithium-ion-battery-separators/#comment-31477</link>
		<dc:creator>Storm Connors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exxon/Mobil is the reason the NiMH batteries are not available for auto packs. Perhaps Lion will be better, but NiMH would do the job better than the lead acid we are currently stuck with. The NiMH in the RAV4 still going strong after 10 years and 100K+ miles.

No conspiracy here, just E/M fighting to keep them off the market. They will not license the technology they bought from GM for use in vehicle sized packs. They could be making a profit for their stockholders and allowing better vehicles to be built. 

Those who think E/M will participate in the BEV development had best check the history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exxon/Mobil is the reason the NiMH batteries are not available for auto packs. Perhaps Lion will be better, but NiMH would do the job better than the lead acid we are currently stuck with. The NiMH in the RAV4 still going strong after 10 years and 100K+ miles.</p>
<p>No conspiracy here, just E/M fighting to keep them off the market. They will not license the technology they bought from GM for use in vehicle sized packs. They could be making a profit for their stockholders and allowing better vehicles to be built. </p>
<p>Those who think E/M will participate in the BEV development had best check the history.</p>
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		<title>By: Tagamet</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/26/lithium-ion-battery-separators/#comment-31471</link>
		<dc:creator>Tagamet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 06:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim I said in part:
...Tag #31: If I came across as being envious of the profits made by anyone, then I was not clear in my wording. I am a complete believer of free enterprise and capitalism. What I do have a problem with is profitable companies asking for long term government subsidies and changes to the tax code when there is no real justification for it. That is not free enterprise or true capitalism. That is my main point of contention.,,,

It may feel like splitting hairs, but why is a company&#039;s ASKING the gov&#039;t for (unwarranted) perks not part of true capitalism? When I&#039;m doing my shrinkery, I often need info from other agencies about what&#039;s gone on to date with an individual. I know that it&#039;s unethical for the other agencies to answer my questions. BUT there&#039;s notihing unethical about me ASKING for the info. If they tell me something, it usually helps, but even if it didn&#039;t help, the &quot;blame&quot; is on the  party that released the info. Similarly, companies are well within their rights to ask the govt for our money. If the govt says &quot;Sure, wait till I get the BIG shovel&quot;, that&#039;s not Exxon&#039;s fault it&#039;s the fault of the goofballs we elected to Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim I said in part:<br />
&#8230;Tag #31: If I came across as being envious of the profits made by anyone, then I was not clear in my wording. I am a complete believer of free enterprise and capitalism. What I do have a problem with is profitable companies asking for long term government subsidies and changes to the tax code when there is no real justification for it. That is not free enterprise or true capitalism. That is my main point of contention.,,,</p>
<p>It may feel like splitting hairs, but why is a company&#8217;s ASKING the gov&#8217;t for (unwarranted) perks not part of true capitalism? When I&#8217;m doing my shrinkery, I often need info from other agencies about what&#8217;s gone on to date with an individual. I know that it&#8217;s unethical for the other agencies to answer my questions. BUT there&#8217;s notihing unethical about me ASKING for the info. If they tell me something, it usually helps, but even if it didn&#8217;t help, the &#8220;blame&#8221; is on the  party that released the info. Similarly, companies are well within their rights to ask the govt for our money. If the govt says &#8220;Sure, wait till I get the BIG shovel&#8221;, that&#8217;s not Exxon&#8217;s fault it&#8217;s the fault of the goofballs we elected to Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim I</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/26/lithium-ion-battery-separators/#comment-31468</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 06:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam #37:  The national debt is 10 Trillion (With a &quot;T&quot;), which is much more scary!

Tag #31:  If I came across as being envious of the profits made by anyone, then I was not clear in my wording.  I am a complete believer of free enterprise and capitalism.  What I do have a problem with is profitable companies asking for long term government subsidies and changes to the tax code when there is no real justification for it.  That is not free enterprise or true capitalism.  That is my main point of contention.

Milton Friedman said it much better.  He called it  &quot;The Suicidal Impulses of the Business Community&quot; 

&quot;A particular business will push government to act in that business&#039;s interests to restrain its competitors. It may be wrapped in the noble purpose of giving healthcare to workers or saving jobs, but this is a push away from free markets.&quot;

That sounds about right to me.

And sorry about hijacking the thread.  But some of these things just need to be said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam #37:  The national debt is 10 Trillion (With a &#8220;T&#8221;), which is much more scary!</p>
<p>Tag #31:  If I came across as being envious of the profits made by anyone, then I was not clear in my wording.  I am a complete believer of free enterprise and capitalism.  What I do have a problem with is profitable companies asking for long term government subsidies and changes to the tax code when there is no real justification for it.  That is not free enterprise or true capitalism.  That is my main point of contention.</p>
<p>Milton Friedman said it much better.  He called it  &#8220;The Suicidal Impulses of the Business Community&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;A particular business will push government to act in that business&#8217;s interests to restrain its competitors. It may be wrapped in the noble purpose of giving healthcare to workers or saving jobs, but this is a push away from free markets.&#8221;</p>
<p>That sounds about right to me.</p>
<p>And sorry about hijacking the thread.  But some of these things just need to be said.</p>
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