Comments on: Poll: Should the U.S. Government Provide Tax Credits to Plug-in Car Buyers? http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:07:32 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site » Blog Archive » House Passes Energy Bill: Would Take Money from Big Oil to Give Plug-in Car Tax Credits http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/#comment-31537 GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site » Blog Archive » House Passes Energy Bill: Would Take Money from Big Oil to Give Plug-in Car Tax Credits Thu, 28 Feb 2008 05:02:10 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/#comment-31537 [...] final result of that poll was for 483 respondents 94% voted in favor of tax credits and 6% [...] [...] final result of that poll was for 483 respondents 94% voted in favor of tax credits and 6% [...]

]]> By: Jack http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/#comment-31135 Jack Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:33:15 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/#comment-31135 to 35. Maybe you live in the wrong country. Maybe you should move to the right one. to 35.

Maybe you live in the wrong country. Maybe you should move to the right one.

]]> By: Jarret http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/#comment-31125 Jarret Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:32:35 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/#comment-31125 I think instead of a tax credit that would only benifit the rich, they should have it be a federal rebate. This should be funded by a national gas tax of $.50 a gallon. The rebates should only be eligible for 100+ MPG plug-ins. Even todays hibrids are a joke, the 1984 honda crx got 50+ MPG and tecnology has gone backwards. If people want to still drive their hummers and suburbans let them pay for those of us who do care about global politcs and the air. I think instead of a tax credit that would only benifit the rich, they should have it be a federal rebate. This should be funded by a national gas tax of $.50 a gallon. The rebates should only be eligible for 100+ MPG plug-ins. Even todays hibrids are a joke, the 1984 honda crx got 50+ MPG and tecnology has gone backwards. If people want to still drive their hummers and suburbans let them pay for those of us who do care about global politcs and the air.

]]> By: Don http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/#comment-30881 Don Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:19:48 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/#comment-30881 canehdian#57 Thank you for that information. How well does it work? canehdian#57

Thank you for that information. How well does it work?

]]> By: SuperSchupp http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/#comment-30850 SuperSchupp Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:48:07 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/#comment-30850 I voted for tax breaks only because the government needs to get our money back some how. It would be better to get rid of the unconstitutional income tax, rather that figure out how to give our money back. Until that happens however, I will take what I can get. I voted for tax breaks only because the government needs to get our money back some how. It would be better to get rid of the unconstitutional income tax, rather that figure out how to give our money back. Until that happens however, I will take what I can get.

]]> By: noel park http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/#comment-30848 noel park Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:29:18 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/#comment-30848 Jim I, #68: The LA Times had a really good Opinion piece yesterday on the "$14+ Billion in the red". It seems that, once the spin slows down, and the blue smoke dissipates, over $12 billion of that stems from the Governator's rollback of the DMV fees ( a piece of political prostitution unsurpassed in the history of the state, IMHO), and another $3 billion from debt service on the corporate welfare bond issues he has championed. Anyway, if government has any useful function at all, it must be to encourage behavior which at least delays the extinction of mankind, and discourage the opposite. Again, some insightful blogger here pointed out the other day that the cost of the war in Iraq is $177 million/day. If we can save some of that back in the long run, the federal taxes to pay for it come out of the same pocket as any state taxes which may help to encourage saving oil. Plus, California has the worst air pollution in the country, which is why the Air Resources Board is doing this. The health care cost of this air pollution is orders of magnitude bigger than anything this tax credit mays cost, and SOMEBODY pays for that in the end. Jim I, #68:

The LA Times had a really good Opinion piece yesterday on the “$14+ Billion in the red”. It seems that, once the spin slows down, and the blue smoke dissipates, over $12 billion of that stems from the Governator’s rollback of the DMV fees ( a piece of political prostitution unsurpassed in the history of the state, IMHO), and another $3 billion from debt service on the corporate welfare bond issues he has championed. Anyway, if government has any useful function at all, it must be to encourage behavior which at least delays the extinction of mankind, and discourage the opposite.

Again, some insightful blogger here pointed out the other day that the cost of the war in Iraq is $177 million/day. If we can save some of that back in the long run, the federal taxes to pay for it come out of the same pocket as any state taxes which may help to encourage saving oil.

Plus, California has the worst air pollution in the country, which is why the Air Resources Board is doing this. The health care cost of this air pollution is orders of magnitude bigger than anything this tax credit mays cost, and SOMEBODY pays for that in the end.

]]> By: Jim I http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/#comment-30839 Jim I Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:50:19 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/#comment-30839 But isn't California already in the red by $14+ Billion????? Where does everyone think this money comes from????? Sooner or later, it comes out of your wallet! I just don't get the thought process with this.......... But isn’t California already in the red by $14+ Billion?????

Where does everyone think this money comes from?????

Sooner or later, it comes out of your wallet!

I just don’t get the thought process with this……….

]]> By: noel park http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/#comment-30837 noel park Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:41:59 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/#comment-30837 nasaman, #2: Amen Tom, #22: Amen. Stick with it brother, you are dead right. Tom, #64: Chalmers Johnson says it all. Also highly recommended are his two follow up books, "The Sorrows of Empire" and "Nemesis". These have become known as "The Blowback Trilogy". Take heed bloggers - this may not be the end of the world, but you can see it from here. NZDavid, #56: Thanks for the highly informative link. I live in California, so I am somewhat encouraged. Jason The Saj, #66: Amen. nasaman, #2:

Amen

Tom, #22:

Amen. Stick with it brother, you are dead right.

Tom, #64:

Chalmers Johnson says it all. Also highly recommended are his two follow up books, “The Sorrows of Empire” and “Nemesis”. These have become known as “The Blowback Trilogy”. Take heed bloggers – this may not be the end of the world, but you can see it from here.

NZDavid, #56:

Thanks for the highly informative link. I live in California, so I am somewhat encouraged.

Jason The Saj, #66:

Amen.

]]> By: Jason The Saj http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/#comment-30825 Jason The Saj Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:31:03 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/#comment-30825 The government gave Toyota and Honda big incentives with $3,000-$4,000 tax credits on hybrids. (Which really only get a few extra mpg over similar vehicles.) They better give at least that much for a vehicle that is far better at changing the 'dependence game' and produced by a U.S. company. It be totally bogus if they didn't... The government gave Toyota and Honda big incentives with $3,000-$4,000 tax credits on hybrids. (Which really only get a few extra mpg over similar vehicles.)

They better give at least that much for a vehicle that is far better at changing the ‘dependence game’ and produced by a U.S. company.

It be totally bogus if they didn’t…

]]> By: NZDavid http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/#comment-30811 NZDavid Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:01:49 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2008/02/17/poll-should-the-us-government-provide-tax-credits-to-plug-in-car-buyers/#comment-30811 From the GCC article on 'To PHEV or not to PHEV' http://www.greencarcongress.com/2008/02/to-phev-or-not.html#more It would seem, at least in California, that subsidy's are underway. Note the ten mile minimum. "In the more immediate term, the $1.6M Alternative Fuel Vehicle Incentive Program (AFVIP) provides grants of up to $5,000 to qualified individuals, businesses, public agencies and entities, and non-profit organizations that purchase or lease an eligible AFV. PHEV drivers will receive the full $5,000, although the PHEV must be ARB-certified and have at least a 10-mile equivalent all-electric range. PHEVs are the only flexible-fuel vehicle that qualify; conventional hybrids do not. California’s AB 118, signed into law in October 2007, is a seven-year program funded by vehicle license fees that will provide around $205 million each year to be applied in clean air, fuel and vehicle technology. From the GCC article on ‘To PHEV or not to PHEV’
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2008/02/to-phev-or-not.html#more
It would seem, at least in California, that subsidy’s are underway. Note the ten mile minimum.

“In the more immediate term, the $1.6M Alternative Fuel Vehicle Incentive Program (AFVIP) provides grants of up to $5,000 to qualified individuals, businesses, public agencies and entities, and non-profit organizations that purchase or lease an eligible AFV. PHEV drivers will receive the full $5,000, although the PHEV must be ARB-certified and have at least a 10-mile equivalent all-electric range. PHEVs are the only flexible-fuel vehicle that qualify; conventional hybrids do not.

California’s AB 118, signed into law in October 2007, is a seven-year program funded by vehicle license fees that will provide around $205 million each year to be applied in clean air, fuel and vehicle technology.

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