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	<title>Comments on: Production not Chemistry is Reason for Delay in Mass Producing Plug-in Cars like the Chevy Volt</title>
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		<title>By: Jean-Charles Jacquemin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean-Charles Jacquemin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noel #34

Being no US citizen, I will refrein to give my opinion about your great leader.

I think however that cooperation, mutual understanding and respect of life are far way better than war.

We know that oil causes wars, then ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noel #34</p>
<p>Being no US citizen, I will refrein to give my opinion about your great leader.</p>
<p>I think however that cooperation, mutual understanding and respect of life are far way better than war.</p>
<p>We know that oil causes wars, then &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: noel park</title>
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		<dc:creator>noel park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jean-Charles, #33:

Well thank you.  And not just about cars either.  

For example, there are many of us here who believe that the former President of France was much closer to right about Iraq  than our own dear leader.

Endless war is only making all of us poorer and less safe.  Think of the good we could do around the world with the trillions (with a T) of dollars we have squandered on military adventures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean-Charles, #33:</p>
<p>Well thank you.  And not just about cars either.  </p>
<p>For example, there are many of us here who believe that the former President of France was much closer to right about Iraq  than our own dear leader.</p>
<p>Endless war is only making all of us poorer and less safe.  Think of the good we could do around the world with the trillions (with a T) of dollars we have squandered on military adventures.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Charles Jacquemin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean-Charles Jacquemin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noel Park #31 DaV8or #32

Thank Noel for your comments, I also think that we simple citizens may change the world to be a better place to live by exchanging informations that discriminating monopolists do not want to be disseminated.

To answer your questions :

1. The price of the Prius (and other Toyotas or Hondas) is higher due to the difference between taxes (DaV8or, the EU import quotas against japanese car imports have been abolished since 2000, and remember the US import quota transformed in a &quot;voluntary restraint agreement&quot; in the first half of the &#039;80) . Here in Europe we have to pay the VAT (value added tax) on the purchase price (it differs between European states from15% (Luxembourg) and 25% (Sweden, Danemark), in belgium it is 21%).

In the USA I think that the sales tax is lower.

2) The € has fluctuated practically the same way against the yen than against the US $ in the last five years. I do not think the exchange rate is the cause.

3) We are left with the discriminant monopolist hypothesis, and the limited availability evoked by DaV8or is a possibilty. As well as the competitive situations with other car makers. Toyota was the only car  company to give a five years warranty. Starting this year, Opel is giving a six years warranty but only in Germany (Why ?) so the perceived quality could be an explanation for higher prices.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noel Park #31 DaV8or #32</p>
<p>Thank Noel for your comments, I also think that we simple citizens may change the world to be a better place to live by exchanging informations that discriminating monopolists do not want to be disseminated.</p>
<p>To answer your questions :</p>
<p>1. The price of the Prius (and other Toyotas or Hondas) is higher due to the difference between taxes (DaV8or, the EU import quotas against japanese car imports have been abolished since 2000, and remember the US import quota transformed in a &#8220;voluntary restraint agreement&#8221; in the first half of the &#8216;80) . Here in Europe we have to pay the VAT (value added tax) on the purchase price (it differs between European states from15% (Luxembourg) and 25% (Sweden, Danemark), in belgium it is 21%).</p>
<p>In the USA I think that the sales tax is lower.</p>
<p>2) The € has fluctuated practically the same way against the yen than against the US $ in the last five years. I do not think the exchange rate is the cause.</p>
<p>3) We are left with the discriminant monopolist hypothesis, and the limited availability evoked by DaV8or is a possibilty. As well as the competitive situations with other car makers. Toyota was the only car  company to give a five years warranty. Starting this year, Opel is giving a six years warranty but only in Germany (Why ?) so the perceived quality could be an explanation for higher prices.</p>
<p>Hope to have helped.</p>
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		<title>By: DaV8or</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaV8or</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noel #31,

&quot;Or is there some sort of a tax strategy on the part of the European governments to protect the home industries? If it is the latter, let me hasten to add that I am not being critical in any way.&quot;

Last I heard, the EU has import quotas on automobiles from Japan and Asia. They limit the supply to consumers and so the price goes up. We don&#039;t do that here, they are free to sell as many as they can. The Japanese have very strict quotas into their country, so it has never been fair trade. It hasn&#039;t been much of an issue because we rarely make any cars here that Europeans or Japanese even want. However EU vs. Japan is another story. Japanese love BMWs and Mercedes and Europeans love Toyotas and Hondas, but both must pay really high prices due to limited availability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noel #31,</p>
<p>&#8220;Or is there some sort of a tax strategy on the part of the European governments to protect the home industries? If it is the latter, let me hasten to add that I am not being critical in any way.&#8221;</p>
<p>Last I heard, the EU has import quotas on automobiles from Japan and Asia. They limit the supply to consumers and so the price goes up. We don&#8217;t do that here, they are free to sell as many as they can. The Japanese have very strict quotas into their country, so it has never been fair trade. It hasn&#8217;t been much of an issue because we rarely make any cars here that Europeans or Japanese even want. However EU vs. Japan is another story. Japanese love BMWs and Mercedes and Europeans love Toyotas and Hondas, but both must pay really high prices due to limited availability.</p>
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		<title>By: noel park</title>
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		<dc:creator>noel park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jean-Charles Jacquemin, #30:

Why do you suppose the price of the Prius is so much higher in Europe?  Is it just a result of Toyota&#039;s marketing strategy?  Is it the difference in exchange rates?  Or is there some sort of a tax strategy on the part of the European governments to protect the home industries?  If it is the latter, let me hasten to add that I am not being critical in any way.  Enlightened self-interest is a good thing, in my experience.

I am bound to say again that I really appreciate your comments here.  They are alway very educational.  In addition, I am so technologically backward that it is always a marvel to me to see comments instantly popping up from around the globe.  It makes me hope that we simple citizens will find ways to connect and communicate past the clouds of spin and obfuscation that our political &quot;leaders&quot; throw up.  Maybe this is how we will be able to work together to make this world a better place.

Sorry to go all emotional on you bloggers, but it is very cool when you think of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean-Charles Jacquemin, #30:</p>
<p>Why do you suppose the price of the Prius is so much higher in Europe?  Is it just a result of Toyota&#8217;s marketing strategy?  Is it the difference in exchange rates?  Or is there some sort of a tax strategy on the part of the European governments to protect the home industries?  If it is the latter, let me hasten to add that I am not being critical in any way.  Enlightened self-interest is a good thing, in my experience.</p>
<p>I am bound to say again that I really appreciate your comments here.  They are alway very educational.  In addition, I am so technologically backward that it is always a marvel to me to see comments instantly popping up from around the globe.  It makes me hope that we simple citizens will find ways to connect and communicate past the clouds of spin and obfuscation that our political &#8220;leaders&#8221; throw up.  Maybe this is how we will be able to work together to make this world a better place.</p>
<p>Sorry to go all emotional on you bloggers, but it is very cool when you think of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Charles Jacquemin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean-Charles Jacquemin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noel Park #27

Just for a comparison with western Europe. 

In Germany, certainly not, but the pricing policy of big &quot;T&quot; and big &quot;H&quot; as Grizzly names them is not similar to the one they practise in the USA.

Here a Toyota or Honda is priced on the high end of the price interval of similar cars.

A  T Prius here, with a basic equipment is priced 26,000 €, that means 37,700 US $ with an exchange rate €/$ of 1,45 $ for 1 € almost the double of what it is priced in the USA.

It is the same with Hondas.


For 26,000 €, I may buy quite a good european car, with good mileage and gentle on CO2 emissions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noel Park #27</p>
<p>Just for a comparison with western Europe. </p>
<p>In Germany, certainly not, but the pricing policy of big &#8220;T&#8221; and big &#8220;H&#8221; as Grizzly names them is not similar to the one they practise in the USA.</p>
<p>Here a Toyota or Honda is priced on the high end of the price interval of similar cars.</p>
<p>A  T Prius here, with a basic equipment is priced 26,000 €, that means 37,700 US $ with an exchange rate €/$ of 1,45 $ for 1 € almost the double of what it is priced in the USA.</p>
<p>It is the same with Hondas.</p>
<p>For 26,000 €, I may buy quite a good european car, with good mileage and gentle on CO2 emissions.</p>
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		<title>By: noel park</title>
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		<dc:creator>noel park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grizzly, #27 &amp; 28:

Well right.  

As I drove across LA to work this morning I was struck, as always, by the shoals of Toyotas, Hondas, Nissans, et al, ad nauseum.  Did I mention Mercedes and BMW?  I see it as a form of national economic suicide.  Not unlike lemmings jumping en masse off the cliff.  I promise that you do not see any such thing in Japan, or Korea, or Germany.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grizzly, #27 &amp; 28:</p>
<p>Well right.  </p>
<p>As I drove across LA to work this morning I was struck, as always, by the shoals of Toyotas, Hondas, Nissans, et al, ad nauseum.  Did I mention Mercedes and BMW?  I see it as a form of national economic suicide.  Not unlike lemmings jumping en masse off the cliff.  I promise that you do not see any such thing in Japan, or Korea, or Germany.</p>
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		<title>By: Grizzly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grizzly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....and of course I forgot to mention that the big &quot;T&quot; and the big &quot;H&quot; are going to try to drop the bottom out of the price on PHEV&#039;s, and will be well poised to do so in 2010 or 11.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.and of course I forgot to mention that the big &#8220;T&#8221; and the big &#8220;H&#8221; are going to try to drop the bottom out of the price on PHEV&#8217;s, and will be well poised to do so in 2010 or 11.</p>
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		<title>By: Grizzly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grizzly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes,

but as has been mentioned the price is going to be very important, especially with a bow-tie on the hood.

It&#039;s for this reason that I think the 40 mi range will be plenty, especially with the initial release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes,</p>
<p>but as has been mentioned the price is going to be very important, especially with a bow-tie on the hood.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s for this reason that I think the 40 mi range will be plenty, especially with the initial release.</p>
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		<title>By: noel park</title>
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		<dc:creator>noel park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>25.Young:

Thanks for this excellent link.

&quot;The Volt I think has also another mission, which is to get the technology leadership back to GM and back in this country in some sense,&quot; Patil said.

Truer words were never spoken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>25.Young:</p>
<p>Thanks for this excellent link.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Volt I think has also another mission, which is to get the technology leadership back to GM and back in this country in some sense,&#8221; Patil said.</p>
<p>Truer words were never spoken.</p>
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