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		<title>By: Ashley Wood</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/03/chevy-volt-design-freeze-within-weeks/#comment-30235</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fallen for VOLT! I want it in high metallic purple/green, with a  clear gloss and black interior with silver trim! Hot fast, and efficient it is the only CAR!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fallen for VOLT! I want it in high metallic purple/green, with a  clear gloss and black interior with silver trim! Hot fast, and efficient it is the only CAR!</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley Wood</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/03/chevy-volt-design-freeze-within-weeks/#comment-30234</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fallen for volt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fallen for volt!</p>
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		<title>By: Chevy Volt Dreamer</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/03/chevy-volt-design-freeze-within-weeks/#comment-29982</link>
		<dc:creator>Chevy Volt Dreamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 08:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Volt is absolutely amazing!

Check out these great videos and commercials at:

http://www.chevy-volt.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Volt is absolutely amazing!</p>
<p>Check out these great videos and commercials at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chevy-volt.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.chevy-volt.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Twitchy</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/03/chevy-volt-design-freeze-within-weeks/#comment-29746</link>
		<dc:creator>Twitchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Screw you lot and your silly &#039;comparison&#039; arguments. I&#039;ll still love the Volt (or whichever variant we get in NZ) as it could be used to power my home in the event of an electricity outage - a very real risk we face once again thanks to an unusually dry summer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Screw you lot and your silly &#8216;comparison&#8217; arguments. I&#8217;ll still love the Volt (or whichever variant we get in NZ) as it could be used to power my home in the event of an electricity outage &#8211; a very real risk we face once again thanks to an unusually dry summer.</p>
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		<title>By: MetrologyFirst</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/03/chevy-volt-design-freeze-within-weeks/#comment-29675</link>
		<dc:creator>MetrologyFirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 06:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intersting website about the Prius plug in mods. It is hard to tell from the data given how well of a controlled experiment this is though. An awful lot of 1 and 2 mile drives. A wild fluctuation in measured mpg. From low 40&#039;s to ~100?? That is somewhat disconcerting, I would think. What type of driving techniques are used by the drivers? I&#039;ve read many articles on hypermilers that can routinely get 60+mpg out of a regular prius. If the driving techniques are not standardized, it seems like a driver could manipulate the results rather easily. 

Doesn&#039;t talk about battery size; how big are they and how much space do they take up? You can&#039;t see in the windows of the modified Prius. How well will they handle repeated cycling? That&#039;s always the kicker. What does it cost?

I&#039;ll take GM&#039;s E-flex approach, thank you. It appears it will be a more solid and integrated technique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intersting website about the Prius plug in mods. It is hard to tell from the data given how well of a controlled experiment this is though. An awful lot of 1 and 2 mile drives. A wild fluctuation in measured mpg. From low 40&#8217;s to ~100?? That is somewhat disconcerting, I would think. What type of driving techniques are used by the drivers? I&#8217;ve read many articles on hypermilers that can routinely get 60+mpg out of a regular prius. If the driving techniques are not standardized, it seems like a driver could manipulate the results rather easily. </p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t talk about battery size; how big are they and how much space do they take up? You can&#8217;t see in the windows of the modified Prius. How well will they handle repeated cycling? That&#8217;s always the kicker. What does it cost?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take GM&#8217;s E-flex approach, thank you. It appears it will be a more solid and integrated technique.</p>
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		<title>By: john1701a</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2008/02/03/chevy-volt-design-freeze-within-weeks/#comment-29669</link>
		<dc:creator>john1701a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; The game changer here is the E-flex chassis. A new paradigm.

That&#039;s missing the point.  Solutions are needed now.

60,000,000 new vehicles are produced worldwide each year.  Affordable high efficiency, very clean vehicles are needed in massive quantity right away.  Well proven &quot;full&quot; hybrids, like Prius, with fulfill that need.

Of course, that paradigm is coming...  but no where near as soon as you hope.  Time will establish their reputation.  That takes years of real-world miles though.  Patience.


&gt;&gt; You can not assume parallel hybrids like the Prius will evolve into higher mpg cars;

What is there to assume?  The prototypes are already on the road.  For example...  http://www.google.org/recharge/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; The game changer here is the E-flex chassis. A new paradigm.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s missing the point.  Solutions are needed now.</p>
<p>60,000,000 new vehicles are produced worldwide each year.  Affordable high efficiency, very clean vehicles are needed in massive quantity right away.  Well proven &#8220;full&#8221; hybrids, like Prius, with fulfill that need.</p>
<p>Of course, that paradigm is coming&#8230;  but no where near as soon as you hope.  Time will establish their reputation.  That takes years of real-world miles though.  Patience.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt; You can not assume parallel hybrids like the Prius will evolve into higher mpg cars;</p>
<p>What is there to assume?  The prototypes are already on the road.  For example&#8230;  <a href="http://www.google.org/recharge/" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.org/recharge/</a></p>
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		<title>By: MetrologyFirst</title>
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		<dc:creator>MetrologyFirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading all of this discussion about what the future will hold, I think everyone needs to step back. It is not clear what comparisons can be assumed using future cars, hybrid or not. We had 40mpg cars 20 years ago; using mpg projection arguments, we should already be driving 80mpg cars now. You can not assume parallel hybrids like the Prius will evolve into higher mpg cars; It should be clear by now that the current hybrid or ICE technology has hit a wall at about 45-50 mpg. That&#039;s more of a physics argument than anything. After all we want more and more stuff in our new cars, making them heavier, countering all the gains in engine efficiency.

Along those lines, the best use of hybrid tech today are the new GM full size SUV hybrids. Going from 15mpg to 22 mpg saves a lot more gas than anything else. But that&#039;s another discussion.

The game changer here is the E-flex chassis. A new paradigm. Electric first, then supplementary generator driven by whatever fuel is the best local solution. This is why the Volt is important. Far more important than the Prius every dreamed about. The Volt will change our future cars, not just improve the current 100yr old solution. 

GM is on the right track in more ways than one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading all of this discussion about what the future will hold, I think everyone needs to step back. It is not clear what comparisons can be assumed using future cars, hybrid or not. We had 40mpg cars 20 years ago; using mpg projection arguments, we should already be driving 80mpg cars now. You can not assume parallel hybrids like the Prius will evolve into higher mpg cars; It should be clear by now that the current hybrid or ICE technology has hit a wall at about 45-50 mpg. That&#8217;s more of a physics argument than anything. After all we want more and more stuff in our new cars, making them heavier, countering all the gains in engine efficiency.</p>
<p>Along those lines, the best use of hybrid tech today are the new GM full size SUV hybrids. Going from 15mpg to 22 mpg saves a lot more gas than anything else. But that&#8217;s another discussion.</p>
<p>The game changer here is the E-flex chassis. A new paradigm. Electric first, then supplementary generator driven by whatever fuel is the best local solution. This is why the Volt is important. Far more important than the Prius every dreamed about. The Volt will change our future cars, not just improve the current 100yr old solution. </p>
<p>GM is on the right track in more ways than one.</p>
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		<title>By: Statik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Statik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noel,

There is no confirmed other numbers/modelsyet, but apparently the 1.4L turbo is going to be a option on no fewer than 6-8 models in the  lineup by 2010.  Basically everything on the Astra platform will be getting it....which is &#039;supposedly&#039; going to produce 1.5 to 2 million cars for GM by 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noel,</p>
<p>There is no confirmed other numbers/modelsyet, but apparently the 1.4L turbo is going to be a option on no fewer than 6-8 models in the  lineup by 2010.  Basically everything on the Astra platform will be getting it&#8230;.which is &#8217;supposedly&#8217; going to produce 1.5 to 2 million cars for GM by 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: NZDavid</title>
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		<dc:creator>NZDavid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#33 Andrew

1. Security/insurance: If theres a supply disruption you won&#039;t spend hours in lines at the gas station.

2. Uncle Sam needs you. Someone needs to pay off the deficit !

3. You will make friends due to the cool car you drive.

4. Fuel prices will go up. The question is by how much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#33 Andrew</p>
<p>1. Security/insurance: If theres a supply disruption you won&#8217;t spend hours in lines at the gas station.</p>
<p>2. Uncle Sam needs you. Someone needs to pay off the deficit !</p>
<p>3. You will make friends due to the cool car you drive.</p>
<p>4. Fuel prices will go up. The question is by how much?</p>
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		<title>By: noel park</title>
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		<dc:creator>noel park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>29Statik:

Well I poked around on Google/Yahoo a bit, and sure enough I did come up with several references to the 1.4 turbo in the Cobalt.  Thanks for the heads up.  Who knew?

It&#039;s always amazed me that the Cobalt is several hundred pounds heavier than the Aveo, and yet the mileage ratings are strikingly similar.  Evidently the 1600 cc engine in the Aveo is a generation older than the 2200 cc (2400?) Ecotec in the Cobalt.  I had heard of the 1.4 naturally aspirated Ecotec in Europe.  I assume that is the one they intend to turbo for the Cobalt.

My suggestion was to use the non-turbo 1.4 in the much lighter Aveo, thus giving it usefully more mileage.  If a turbo Cobalt can get 35-40, imagine what a non-turbo Aveo could get.  No response though.  Globalization or no, I guess European GM doesn&#039;t talk to Korean GM.  

The Aveo is pretty light, and not that bad looking, IMHO.  Also, I think that the 5 door is to be restyled for 2009.  As Rick Lupori famously said on the Fastlane blog, &quot;It&#039;s a pretty good car in search of a drive train.&quot;  I think that  a credible Yaris, Fit, Versa fighter would be a good thing, Volt or no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>29Statik:</p>
<p>Well I poked around on Google/Yahoo a bit, and sure enough I did come up with several references to the 1.4 turbo in the Cobalt.  Thanks for the heads up.  Who knew?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always amazed me that the Cobalt is several hundred pounds heavier than the Aveo, and yet the mileage ratings are strikingly similar.  Evidently the 1600 cc engine in the Aveo is a generation older than the 2200 cc (2400?) Ecotec in the Cobalt.  I had heard of the 1.4 naturally aspirated Ecotec in Europe.  I assume that is the one they intend to turbo for the Cobalt.</p>
<p>My suggestion was to use the non-turbo 1.4 in the much lighter Aveo, thus giving it usefully more mileage.  If a turbo Cobalt can get 35-40, imagine what a non-turbo Aveo could get.  No response though.  Globalization or no, I guess European GM doesn&#8217;t talk to Korean GM.  </p>
<p>The Aveo is pretty light, and not that bad looking, IMHO.  Also, I think that the 5 door is to be restyled for 2009.  As Rick Lupori famously said on the Fastlane blog, &#8220;It&#8217;s a pretty good car in search of a drive train.&#8221;  I think that  a credible Yaris, Fit, Versa fighter would be a good thing, Volt or no.</p>
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