Comments on: GM’s Chief to Toyota’s President on plug-in hybrids: “That’s my speech” http://gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:07:32 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Roddy http://gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/#comment-63996 Roddy Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:15:26 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/#comment-63996 To 'Proud USA' that states "Michigan is a stigma of the USA blah, blah, blah..." dude, take an English class if you're going to blog on American websites. Also, some people in California recognize that the Big 3 currently have offerings that are as good or better than Toy or Hunda....and spend their money on the US corporation's product in hopes that there will continue to be an American corporation to GIVE US JOBS! Dork. To ‘Proud USA’ that states “Michigan is a stigma of the USA blah, blah, blah…” dude, take an English class if you’re going to blog on American websites. Also, some people in California recognize that the Big 3 currently have offerings that are as good or better than Toy or Hunda….and spend their money on the US corporation’s product in hopes that there will continue to be an American corporation to GIVE US JOBS! Dork.

]]> By: GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site » GM CEO Rick Wagoner on Chevy Volt Risk http://gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/#comment-28258 GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site » GM CEO Rick Wagoner on Chevy Volt Risk Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:01:07 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/#comment-28258 [...] My second question and his answer were as follows (first question here): [...] [...] My second question and his answer were as follows (first question here): [...]

]]> By: Jean-Charles Jacquemin http://gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/#comment-27743 Jean-Charles Jacquemin Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:13:54 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/#comment-27743 AES #18, Dave B #19, Bruce G #23, Thank you for your global questions, they are noted, For those of you who read French, here is the link : http://www.involve.be/FR/news/article.aspx?G=06494ab7-e4b7-4304-b33a-7ab5995a3fa1 What is interesting is that they say that the C30 ReCharge has an E-range of 100km on a single charge (around 70 miles) and a complete recharge time of only 3 hours. And if you read Dutch (we are in Belgium), here is the link. http://www.involve.be/NL/news/article.aspx?G=06494ab7-e4b7-4304-b33a-7ab5995a3fa1 If I get clearer answers than before on Tuesday, stay tuned on this post, I'll give them to you, and if I do not get clear answers I'll keep you posted. Regards AES #18, Dave B #19, Bruce G #23,

Thank you for your global questions, they are noted,

For those of you who read French, here is the link :
http://www.involve.be/FR/news/article.aspx?G=06494ab7-e4b7-4304-b33a-7ab5995a3fa1

What is interesting is that they say that the C30 ReCharge has an E-range of 100km on a single charge (around 70 miles) and a complete recharge time of only 3 hours.

And if you read Dutch (we are in Belgium), here is the link.
http://www.involve.be/NL/news/article.aspx?G=06494ab7-e4b7-4304-b33a-7ab5995a3fa1

If I get clearer answers than before on Tuesday, stay tuned on this post, I’ll give them to you, and if I do not get clear answers I’ll keep you posted.

Regards

]]> By: noel park http://gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/#comment-27693 noel park Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:46:54 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/#comment-27693 Well I said I don't care about the 0-60 time, but a minute probably won't work! Pretty tough getting on the freeway in LA. Proud USA, #25: What has happened to Michigan is indeed a disgrace. If the US auto industry does not begin to build products so superior that people cannot resist buying them again, it will only get worse. Yesterday I mentioned Chalmers Johnson and his books. Professor Johnson says that the US has allowed its manufacturing base to be "hollowed out" as a quid pro quo for overseas basing rights for our imperial military. That all came well before we decided to decimate our economy by throwing away trillions of dollars in Iraq. Well I said I don’t care about the 0-60 time, but a minute probably won’t work! Pretty tough getting on the freeway in LA.

Proud USA, #25:

What has happened to Michigan is indeed a disgrace. If the US auto industry does not begin to build products so superior that people cannot resist buying them again, it will only get worse.

Yesterday I mentioned Chalmers Johnson and his books. Professor Johnson says that the US has allowed its manufacturing base to be “hollowed out” as a quid pro quo for overseas basing rights for our imperial military.

That all came well before we decided to decimate our economy by throwing away trillions of dollars in Iraq.

]]> By: AES http://gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/#comment-27543 AES Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:24:38 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/#comment-27543 If mule acceleration truly is a problem, there are three possible explanation: -Drivetrain/electric motors are too weak. This is pretty unlikely, given how quick Chevy's fuel cell equinoxes are, and they're using the same GM electric motor technology. -Lithium battery discharge is too low. Again, unlikely given the >100kW results in the lab so far. -The much more reasonable explanation is that they did some tests with NiMH packs to ensure that the mules are drivable, and NiMH tends to have much lower peak power density than lithium. If mule acceleration truly is a problem, there are three possible explanation:

-Drivetrain/electric motors are too weak. This is pretty unlikely, given how quick Chevy’s fuel cell equinoxes are, and they’re using the same GM electric motor technology.

-Lithium battery discharge is too low. Again, unlikely given the >100kW results in the lab so far.

-The much more reasonable explanation is that they did some tests with NiMH packs to ensure that the mules are drivable, and NiMH tends to have much lower peak power density than lithium.

]]> By: o.jeff http://gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/#comment-27508 o.jeff Wed, 16 Jan 2008 05:19:32 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/#comment-27508 http://info.detnews.com/redesign/blogs/autoshowblog/index.cfm?blogID=226 "Lutz also said today that GM plans to start road testing the battery in vehicles starting in June. He said last year GM's plan was to start the testing this spring. Testers will use old Chevrolet Malibus to try out the lithium-ion battery packs, he said." "The key issue engineers face now is getting the acceleration up to par. The car's 0-60 time apparently still leaves much to be desired." "'When it gets to the point where you need a calendar instead of a stopwatch, you know it needs more work,' he said." Ouch, that last quote is harsh! I guess Bob just can't resist being quotable. http://info.detnews.com/redesign/blogs/autoshowblog/index.cfm?blogID=226

“Lutz also said today that GM plans to start road testing the battery in vehicles starting in June. He said last year GM’s plan was to start the testing this spring. Testers will use old Chevrolet Malibus to try out the lithium-ion battery packs, he said.”
“The key issue engineers face now is getting the acceleration up to par. The car’s 0-60 time apparently still leaves much to be desired.”
“‘When it gets to the point where you need a calendar instead of a stopwatch, you know it needs more work,’ he said.”

Ouch, that last quote is harsh! I guess Bob just can’t resist being quotable.

]]> By: AES http://gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/#comment-27505 AES Wed, 16 Jan 2008 05:04:14 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/#comment-27505 The slow acceleration story sounds like bad reporting. If the CPI packs can put out >100kW of power (as Lyle reported in his visit to the battery lab), that's >134 horsepower. Given that it's instant torque as well, less than 10 second 0-60 runs should be easy. The slow acceleration story sounds like bad reporting. If the CPI packs can put out >100kW of power (as Lyle reported in his visit to the battery lab), that’s >134 horsepower. Given that it’s instant torque as well, less than 10 second 0-60 runs should be easy.

]]> By: Proud USA http://gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/#comment-27480 Proud USA Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:50:20 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/#comment-27480 Michigan is a stigma of the USA and bring shame to this country, PERIOD. People in California love Toyota and Honda and nothing else, not even Nissan! Michigan is a stigma of the USA and bring shame to this country, PERIOD. People in California love Toyota and Honda and nothing else, not even Nissan!

]]> By: o.jeff http://gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/#comment-27479 o.jeff Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:47:46 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/#comment-27479 Volt Mule Delayed Because of Slow Acceleration "Lutz had hoped to have test vehicles powered by lithium ion batteries ready for the public by early spring, but GM pushed it back to June because of acceleration issues." "Lutz didn’t initially care about acceleration on the test cars – until, he said, he learned it would take one full minute to go from 0 to 60 mph." http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080115/FREE/45607755/1530/FREE Volt Mule Delayed Because of Slow Acceleration

“Lutz had hoped to have test vehicles powered by lithium ion batteries ready for the public by early spring, but GM pushed it back to June because of acceleration issues.”
“Lutz didn’t initially care about acceleration on the test cars – until, he said, he learned it would take one full minute to go from 0 to 60 mph.”

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080115/FREE/45607755/1530/FREE

]]> By: bruce g http://gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/#comment-27474 bruce g Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:04:29 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2008/01/15/gms-chief-to-toyotas-president-on-plug-in-hybrids-thats-my-speech/#comment-27474 Jean-Charles,#17 Thank you, Just about all the cards are on the table in Detroit, except the C30 so far. All we need is a fortune teller to read them. I guess the questions are similar to those we ask about the Volt, when is it due for production, is the development running on schedule? My regards Jean-Charles,#17
Thank you,
Just about all the cards are on the table in Detroit, except the C30 so far.
All we need is a fortune teller to read them.

I guess the questions are similar to those we ask about the Volt, when is it due for production, is the development running on schedule?

My regards

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