Comments on: BYD F6DM Plug-in Electric Hybrid

By: I. Ronnickly

I. Ronnickly — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:50:04 +0000

of course I’m an idiot and “mis-comprehended” shall we say? the role of Mr. Kulongoski in Oregon? but that’s no reflection on the informative article!

By: I. Ronnickly

I. Ronnickly — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:10:21 +0000

hey it’s for sale today in China for $22,000.

GM better hope BYD stumbles over US safety requirements.

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssConsumerGoodsAndRetailNews/idUSSEO16159320081215

An Oregonian already has the rights to import Nissan electrics and wants to import the BYD

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2008/11/kulongoski_lobbies_to_bring_ch.html

By: vivifiant

vivifiant — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:31:35 +0000

Interesting how arrogantly some writers on this board belittle the Chinese PHEVs. Sounds like the articles about Japanese cars in the 70s… The problem is that the learning curve seems to be radically faster in China than in Detroit. While Detroit is still comfortable to peddle pickups to Mid Western drivers who need 8 cylinders and 300hp to move their 300 pound bodies, their bottle of Jack Daniels and their rack of shot guns in their trucks, the rest of the world is moving on. If Detroit is not waking up rapidly and makes quickly many many reliable PHEV models like the Volt at competitive prices it will be too late. A sticker “Made with pride in America” wont cut it….. If you think my assessment is wrong, let’s discuss this in 5 years …

Vivifiant, Ohio

By: Jeff M

Jeff M — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:35:04 +0000

I just ran into another article that gives more info on pricing ….

The price in the Chinese market is estimated to be $20,000 and $30,000 …. which is high end for the Chinese market when the average annual income in China is a small fraction of that price.

The article is at http://tinyurl.com/yq7rsa

By: Don

Don — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:39:14 +0000

More details about it here: http://www.greencarcongress.com/2008/01/byd-auto-introd.html#more

It seems to be an serial EREV and a parallel hybrid to some degree … “… actually offers three modes of operation: full battery-powered EV mode driving its 75 kW, 400 Nm motor; series-hybrid mode, in which a 50 kW, 1.0-liter engine drives a generator as a range-extender; and parallel hybrid mode, in which the engine and motor both provide propulsive power.
The FD6M starts out in EV mode. At medium speed it will shift to range-extending series hybrid mode, and at high speed it will shift to full parallel mode. In addition to the 100 km of EV range, the HEV modes add another 330 km of range, for a total vehicle range of 430 km (267 miles).”

The design doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.