Comments on: A123 Unveils New E-REV Battery Cell for Chevy Volt http://gm-volt.com/2007/12/03/a123-unveils-new-e-rev-battery-cell-for-chevy-volt/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:07:32 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Paul http://gm-volt.com/2007/12/03/a123-unveils-new-e-rev-battery-cell-for-chevy-volt/#comment-39366 Paul Sun, 04 May 2008 04:27:40 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/12/03/a123-unveils-new-e-rev-battery-cell-for-chevy-volt/#comment-39366 I wish they would sell the 40 mile range battery pack so I wouldn't have to buy a $35,000 volt. I don't want much more range than 40 miles. My lead Acid converison that will have a range of 45 miles is costing $3000 I wish they would sell the 40 mile range battery pack so I wouldn’t have to buy a $35,000 volt. I don’t want much more range than 40 miles. My lead Acid converison that will have a range of 45 miles is costing $3000

]]> By: Mike756 http://gm-volt.com/2007/12/03/a123-unveils-new-e-rev-battery-cell-for-chevy-volt/#comment-18006 Mike756 Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:45:31 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/12/03/a123-unveils-new-e-rev-battery-cell-for-chevy-volt/#comment-18006 mykallb "Uhhhh the “big square” pack is not going to fit the Volt specifications as I understand them." Where is the "big square" pack mentioned? mykallb

“Uhhhh the “big square” pack is not going to fit the Volt specifications as I understand them.”

Where is the “big square” pack mentioned?

]]> By: Van http://gm-volt.com/2007/12/03/a123-unveils-new-e-rev-battery-cell-for-chevy-volt/#comment-17997 Van Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:52:29 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/12/03/a123-unveils-new-e-rev-battery-cell-for-chevy-volt/#comment-17997 Lets assume the energy density of the new prismatic cell is 125 wh/kg. This is based on the assertion that the new cell has an energy density about 20% higher than the round cell. (108 x 120 = 130) So the weight of the cells necessary for 16 KWH is about 130 Kg or 290 lbs. Naturally the battery cooling and managment equipment would add to the weight, but a battery pack of about 400 lbs seems feasible. The "T" battery storage compartment shown on the concept vehicle drawings runs from the back of the engine compartment to the rear where it "t's" near the real axle. Lets assume the energy density of the new prismatic cell is 125 wh/kg. This is based on the assertion that the new cell has an energy density about 20% higher than the round cell. (108 x 120 = 130) So the weight of the cells necessary for 16 KWH is about 130 Kg or 290 lbs. Naturally the battery cooling and managment equipment would add to the weight, but a battery pack of about 400 lbs seems feasible.

The “T” battery storage compartment shown on the concept vehicle drawings runs from the back of the engine compartment to the rear where it “t’s” near the real axle.

]]> By: mykallb http://gm-volt.com/2007/12/03/a123-unveils-new-e-rev-battery-cell-for-chevy-volt/#comment-17931 mykallb Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:57:03 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/12/03/a123-unveils-new-e-rev-battery-cell-for-chevy-volt/#comment-17931 Jim I Says: December 5th, 2007 at 7:42 am Quote I am a bit confused with your posts. Nowhere in the original article are any size or weight figures given for the pack that is shown. This quote is from the original article: “Exact specifications of the cell have not been released.” And as I understand it, the final design of the actual vehicle is far from being at the “design freeze” stage. =========== Jim, Where do you get this information? On this very site Frank Weber stated just the opposite. He stated roughly that the Volt was near the design freeze stage. That's a far cry from your "understanding". Jim I Says:
December 5th, 2007 at 7:42 am Quote

I am a bit confused with your posts. Nowhere in the original article are any size or weight figures given for the pack that is shown. This quote is from the original article: “Exact specifications of the cell have not been released.” And as I understand it, the final design of the actual vehicle is far from being at the “design freeze” stage.

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Jim,

Where do you get this information? On this very site Frank Weber stated just the opposite. He stated roughly that the Volt was near the design freeze stage. That’s a far cry from your “understanding”.

]]> By: Jim I http://gm-volt.com/2007/12/03/a123-unveils-new-e-rev-battery-cell-for-chevy-volt/#comment-17829 Jim I Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:42:02 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/12/03/a123-unveils-new-e-rev-battery-cell-for-chevy-volt/#comment-17829 mykallb #29: I am a bit confused with your posts. Nowhere in the original article are any size or weight figures given for the pack that is shown. This quote is from the original article: "Exact specifications of the cell have not been released." And as I understand it, the final design of the actual vehicle is far from being at the "design freeze" stage. So how is it that you have come up with a weight of the full pack, and been able to determine that the size of the pack will not fit into the Volt? Unless you have access to information that does not seem to be available, or have actually held this new pack in your hands, I think your conclusions are a bit premature. IMHO, if the packs from A123 or LG did not come close to meeting the GM defined specs, I doubt seriously that they would be issuing press releases about the delivery of them to GM. mykallb #29:

I am a bit confused with your posts. Nowhere in the original article are any size or weight figures given for the pack that is shown. This quote is from the original article: “Exact specifications of the cell have not been released.” And as I understand it, the final design of the actual vehicle is far from being at the “design freeze” stage.

So how is it that you have come up with a weight of the full pack, and been able to determine that the size of the pack will not fit into the Volt?

Unless you have access to information that does not seem to be available, or have actually held this new pack in your hands, I think your conclusions are a bit premature.

IMHO, if the packs from A123 or LG did not come close to meeting the GM defined specs, I doubt seriously that they would be issuing press releases about the delivery of them to GM.

]]> By: mykallb http://gm-volt.com/2007/12/03/a123-unveils-new-e-rev-battery-cell-for-chevy-volt/#comment-17794 mykallb Wed, 05 Dec 2007 04:59:02 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/12/03/a123-unveils-new-e-rev-battery-cell-for-chevy-volt/#comment-17794 # AES Says: December 4th, 2007 at 2:35 am Quote mykallb- The t shape describes the pack, not the cells that it is composed of. ===== None the less, it must conform to spec. Roughly speaking you're going to need approx. 400lbs of batt. You develop a vehicle to accommodate that which will be. Uhhhh the "big square" pack is not going to fit the Volt specifications as I understand them. So...if you're testing cells, then you've got a point, but if you're testing a viable batt. then we've got some concerns. M. # AES Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 2:35 am Quote

mykallb-

The t shape describes the pack, not the cells that it is composed of.

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None the less, it must conform to spec. Roughly speaking you’re going to need approx. 400lbs of batt. You develop a vehicle to accommodate that which will be. Uhhhh the “big square” pack is not going to fit the Volt specifications as I understand them.

So…if you’re testing cells, then you’ve got a point, but if you’re testing a viable batt. then we’ve got some concerns.

M.

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]]> By: Jim I http://gm-volt.com/2007/12/03/a123-unveils-new-e-rev-battery-cell-for-chevy-volt/#comment-17714 Jim I Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:25:44 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/12/03/a123-unveils-new-e-rev-battery-cell-for-chevy-volt/#comment-17714 The waiting list can be 1 million, as long as we here at GM-VOLT.com are at the top of the list!!!!! :) The waiting list can be 1 million, as long as we here at GM-VOLT.com are at the top of the list!!!!!

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]]> By: noel park http://gm-volt.com/2007/12/03/a123-unveils-new-e-rev-battery-cell-for-chevy-volt/#comment-17711 noel park Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:53:08 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/12/03/a123-unveils-new-e-rev-battery-cell-for-chevy-volt/#comment-17711 bruceg, #21: gm-volt waiting list 30,000 - damn right - we look to the day! bruceg, #21:

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