Comments on: Your Questions Answered by Top Chevy Volt Executives, Part 4

By: james

james — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:29:05 +0000

kindtroll, i imagine that you are mostly talking about my pete k. posts, if you will go back and read his original posts, you will see that he is generally condesending and sarcastic. his main points have not been to help with the volt, but rather to slam the u.s.
pete has his right to free speech, as do you and i. but, i do not have to agree with his slams of the volt and the u.s.
and i do not have to let his comments stand without an answer by me.
as far as apostrope’s go, have you not noticed that i don’t even use capitol letters (and i probably spelled capitol wrong too). if you look through most of the posts on any of these gm sites, you will see many errors, it just happens when people type a lot.
and so, let me know, by copy and paste exactly what it is with my posts that you disagree with. but before you do that, make certain that you go back and read the person’s post that i reference in my post.
oh, one more thing kindtroll, this is not a site for debate, it is a site about the volt, and the advancement of the volt, and good ideas, it is not a place of slander and deception.
please feel free to disagree with me all you want, and then feel free to iggy me if you must, lol. i freely give the power of iggy to anyone who needs it.

By: kindtroll

kindtroll — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:38:37 +0000

James,

Your post No.73 here is the first one I have been able to agree with.

Recently I have watched you trampling others on this site whilst banging on about freedom of speech. Those people had viewpoints as valid as any, including your own, and seemed to be asking OK questions. Also, you (and others here) don’t know how to use an apostrophe (eg EVs not EV’s), so you see you aren’t correct about everything. Please try to be kinder to people.

By: james

james — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:50:52 +0000

By: james

james — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 23:31:34 +0000

matt71, lyle’s statements were in reply to doug’s narrow minded and inflammatory posts.
we are all tired of the “doug” types. lyle just let it be known.
lyle’s statements were about gm and the volt and were (as far as i can tell) not meant to say other modes of transportation are not good, but that he believes (as do i and most on these boards) that the volt is the best so far.
h*ll if someone comes out with a car that runs on air, and mass produces it for a good price, i’ll buy that one.
as for iggying…the great thing about iggying, is that anyone can do it at anytime. but in our case we will be using it to bypass and ignore people who generally make idiotic posts.
sheeoooot, maybe you feel that you want to iggy my stuff, more power to you my friend, iggying is like freedom of speech, and you can iggy whatever posts/posters you like!

By: Matthijs

Matthijs — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:46:24 +0000

67 Hi Lyle,

Here I think your statement is false. A good company makes product the customers want to buy. And it was clear there is a demand on EV’s or any other kind of car that is green.

If all consumers think the way you stated and would not demand innovation we would never see new products come to market.

I really hope the public pressure for green cars continuous and we will stop to buy gas cars asap.

PS can we please stop making these lame comments or I will have 2 do allot of iggying around here. Jeez.

By: Grizzly

Grizzly — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:36:29 +0000

Well, I think the coast is finally clear. One “loose screw” storm like that is enough. Really counterproductive to this site and the efforts of the Volt development team.

By: james

james — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:06:12 +0000

jeese, is doug still on here? i guess since i started iggying (ignoring and scrolling by) him, i’ve noticed a Great improvement in the site! not to mention that i can read ideas on here, instead of getting dragged into Stupid debates, that are not about ideas, but about slander.
ah, life is good.
jimmy 68, i haven’t read doug k’s posts in a while, but if they are anything like his posts that i used to read, then cheers to your 68 statement!

By: Jimmy

Jimmy — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 03:22:01 +0000

Doug,

With all due respect, you sound like you may have some sort of mental condition. You seem unable to process rational thoughts. You may want to consult with family members regarding seeking professional help. I wish you well.

By: Lyle

Lyle — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 01:39:21 +0000

Doug
There is really nothing to debate. GM is doing what they want to do. You and I cannot control that process. They are not the government, we do not elect them or impeach them.

GM is in business to make money and not to please you or me or necessarily any fringe group.

We’ve worked hard on this site and I do not wish it to lose focus.

Thank you.

By: Doug Korthof

Doug Korthof — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 01:20:33 +0000

Lyle (continued)
I edited out some of the less favorable things that came up, and left out some of my negative comments. I have the full video; if you’d like I’ll post it. As my disclaimer stated, the video was a bit unfair.

Those who come late to the EV movement don’t seem to understand. It isn’t bitterness at all, it’s just that we’ve seen GM’s perfidy before.

Why should we believe them now? Well, for you, this is the first time you were deceived, and you have no reason to distrust them (or to trust them, for that matter).

You say, “…give GM a chance to produce the Volt..until then lets try to keep positive and observe the process…”. But GM does have a chance, of course, to produce the VOLT; the big problem is, it’s not looking like it’s proceeding forward. It looks just like 1992 all over again, where GM claimed to be about to produce, but then sabotaged its own EV1, and was prepared even then to bury and forget it, never unveiling the Nickel batteries.

GM is not making the kinds of moves that would indicate they are serious about the VOLT. They would be using the NiMH batteries, if they were serious, and later upgrade to Lithium if and when it pans out.

But Lithium is 2 or 3 times the cost of Nickel, and lasts about a third as long, in our experience; so when GM says it needs Lithium for the VOLT, right away, the B.S. meter starts to bounce.

WHY would they be ignoring existing, proven NiMH batteries, the batteries which they controlled until Oct. 10, 2000?? Bet you didn’t even know that.