Comments on: Toyota’s People Think the Volt Will Blow up in GM’s Face http://gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:53:37 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site » Toyota Denies it Denigrated the Volt http://gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/#comment-15685 GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site » Toyota Denies it Denigrated the Volt Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:09:32 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/#comment-15685 [...] Toyota’s People Think the Volt Will Blow up in GM’s Face [...] [...] Toyota’s People Think the Volt Will Blow up in GM’s Face [...]

]]> By: Joe http://gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/#comment-14630 Joe Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:35:11 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/#comment-14630 At first Toyota was propagating the serial hybrids as being a great idea. But,after they found themselves behind in battery technology,it became a bad idea. The Japanese are known to be polite to you and then turn around and stick it to you in the back. If you want to know more of how they got where they are today, click on this link. http://www.uwsa.com/issues/trade/japanyes.html At first Toyota was propagating the serial hybrids as being a great idea. But,after they found themselves behind in battery technology,it became a bad idea. The Japanese are known to be polite to you and then turn around and stick it to you in the back. If you want to know more of how they got where they are today, click on this link.
http://www.uwsa.com/issues/trade/japanyes.html

]]> By: Marty McFly http://gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/#comment-14004 Marty McFly Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:30:38 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/#comment-14004 Plug in Prius blurb: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/toyota_plugin_dc Plug in Prius blurb:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/toyota_plugin_dc

]]> By: Mario M http://gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/#comment-13992 Mario M Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:34:17 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/#comment-13992 Does anyone else think the guy in the photo looks like Professor X in that funky chair? Does anyone else think the guy in the photo looks like Professor X in that funky chair?

]]> By: Steven B http://gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/#comment-13937 Steven B Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:02:52 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/#comment-13937 You might want to check the facts on hydrogen. You may be right about that distribution, but I don't think so. Hydrogen is very difficult to ship in quantity. And E-flex is the electric drive powertrain, flex-fuel is the gasoline or E85 engine. You might want to check the facts on hydrogen. You may be right about that distribution, but I don’t think so. Hydrogen is very difficult to ship in quantity. And E-flex is the electric drive powertrain, flex-fuel is the gasoline or E85 engine.

]]> By: law http://gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/#comment-13915 law Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:44:30 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/#comment-13915 Guys and Gals don't worry the declining US dollar is going to put a lot of pressure on the deficit. The low USD is going to shift the USA from a consumer to a producer. Also the price of any product from toyota is going to go up here, while GM product prices go down in other countries. I'm going to own a volt, period. Than after we have a volt I'm going to get an all electric car. GM should supply the volt with several options eventually. 1. Electric car only with 60 miles range 2. Electric car with range extension, 20 miles all electric 3. Same as 2 but with 40 miles all electric The range extender choices should be 1. EFlex 2. Hydrogen combustion 3. Diesel/Biodiesel 4. H Cell But I agree that the first car should be the PHEV with 40 miles all electric and EFlex engine. They can add more options later. The reason I support hydrogen is that there are some states in the USA with huge wind power potential such as the Dakotas and Texas, while others have either very high population densities (northeast) or poor wind potential (southeast). The states that produce extra power can convert it into hydrogen and ship it for vehicles in states that have problems producing enough power and use the hydrogen as a range extender for PHEVs. Guys and Gals don’t worry the declining US dollar is going to put a lot of pressure on the deficit. The low USD is going to shift the USA from a consumer to a producer. Also the price of any product from toyota is going to go up here, while GM product prices go down in other countries. I’m going to own a volt, period. Than after we have a volt I’m going to get an all electric car.

GM should supply the volt with several options eventually.
1. Electric car only with 60 miles range
2. Electric car with range extension, 20 miles all electric
3. Same as 2 but with 40 miles all electric

The range extender choices should be
1. EFlex
2. Hydrogen combustion
3. Diesel/Biodiesel
4. H Cell

But I agree that the first car should be the PHEV with 40 miles all electric and EFlex engine. They can add more options later.

The reason I support hydrogen is that there are some states in the USA with huge wind power potential such as the Dakotas and Texas, while others have either very high population densities (northeast) or poor wind potential (southeast). The states that produce extra power can convert it into hydrogen and ship it for vehicles in states that have problems producing enough power and use the hydrogen as a range extender for PHEVs.

]]> By: james http://gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/#comment-13909 james Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:48:34 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/#comment-13909 don...thanks for proving my point, i love trolls as much as the next guy, but in fairytale land. i'm still fairly certain that most of the trolls are working for the same country who thought bombing pearl harbor was a good idea. btw, there is a quote from these same people, sorry don't have the reference, but you can maybe google it. "we may have lost the war, but we'll kill them in economics". posting on here by toyota trolls would certainly be easy enough. don…thanks for proving my point, i love trolls as much as the next guy, but in fairytale land. i’m still fairly certain that most of the trolls are working for the same country who thought bombing pearl harbor was a good idea.
btw, there is a quote from these same people, sorry don’t have the reference, but you can maybe google it.
“we may have lost the war, but we’ll kill them in economics”.
posting on here by toyota trolls would certainly be easy enough.

]]> By: Jimmy http://gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/#comment-13899 Jimmy Sat, 10 Nov 2007 05:14:17 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/#comment-13899 The US is currently running an 800 billion trade deficit each year. Other countries are loaning the money back (China and Japan in particular) to us to fund the deficit. They have to loan it back so their currencies do not appreciate. A portion of the deficit is being sent to Japan for their autos. About 300 billion of the deficit is for oil. If we keep up the current level of trade deficits, we will become a third world country in the not to distant future. One of the nice thing about the Volt is it reduces the trade deficit for two reasons. It will be made in the US and it will reduce the amount of oil consumption. I have been pro US products ever since I took Economics 101 and want to see our country continue to prosper. The US is currently running an 800 billion trade deficit each year. Other countries are loaning the money back (China and Japan in particular) to us to fund the deficit. They have to loan it back so their currencies do not appreciate. A portion of the deficit is being sent to Japan for their autos. About 300 billion of the deficit is for oil. If we keep up the current level of trade deficits, we will become a third world country in the not to distant future.

One of the nice thing about the Volt is it reduces the trade deficit for two reasons. It will be made in the US and it will reduce the amount of oil consumption.

I have been pro US products ever since I took Economics 101 and want to see our country continue to prosper.

]]> By: OhmExcited http://gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/#comment-13893 OhmExcited Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:13:55 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/#comment-13893 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/09/AR2007110902081.html [quote] Toyota eyes the plug-in Prius By Bernie Woodall Reuters Friday, November 9, 2007; 7:36 PM TORRANCE, California (Reuters) - Toyota Motor Corp on Friday detailed plans to study U.S. consumer demand for a version of its hot-selling Prius hybrid that could be recharged at a standard outlet and run on electric power only. A senior Toyota executive declined to say when a plug-in Prius would be launched or whether it could beat rival General Motors Corp to market with a technology seen as capable of slashing fuel consumption and greenhouse gas emissions. [/quote] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/09/AR2007110902081.html

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Toyota eyes the plug-in Prius

By Bernie Woodall
Reuters
Friday, November 9, 2007; 7:36 PM

TORRANCE, California (Reuters) – Toyota Motor Corp on Friday detailed plans to study U.S. consumer demand for a version of its hot-selling Prius hybrid that could be recharged at a standard outlet and run on electric power only.

A senior Toyota executive declined to say when a plug-in Prius would be launched or whether it could beat rival General Motors Corp to market with a technology seen as capable of slashing fuel consumption and greenhouse gas emissions.
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]]> By: Don http://gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/#comment-13891 Don Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:02:36 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/11/09/toyotas-people-think-the-volt-will-blow-up-in-gms-face/#comment-13891 Jimmy, you really want a discussion of "Yeah, I think that too!"? Boring! Please post all ye skeptics and Toyota enthusiasts! Lay on all the critiques you can muster up. The fun is in the debate. The reality is that Toyota currently holds the gas efficiency crown. They are the one to beat. GM is gunning for that crown and looks to have a winning hand ONLY because Toyota is entrenching in with a great technology that is more complex than needed once batteries are good enough and cheap enough to get 40 miles plus on a charge in an attractive and performing car that is under $30K. The more they keep saying that their parallel system is better the harder it will be for them to change course. And the better for GM. GM will get a lead in the battle but Toyota will realize it eventually. And the technology is not too complex, they'll catch up quickly when they do (even if they need to buy batteries from other suppliers to do so). Jimmy, you really want a discussion of “Yeah, I think that too!”? Boring!

Please post all ye skeptics and Toyota enthusiasts! Lay on all the critiques you can muster up. The fun is in the debate.

The reality is that Toyota currently holds the gas efficiency crown. They are the one to beat. GM is gunning for that crown and looks to have a winning hand ONLY because Toyota is entrenching in with a great technology that is more complex than needed once batteries are good enough and cheap enough to get 40 miles plus on a charge in an attractive and performing car that is under $30K. The more they keep saying that their parallel system is better the harder it will be for them to change course. And the better for GM. GM will get a lead in the battle but Toyota will realize it eventually. And the technology is not too complex, they’ll catch up quickly when they do (even if they need to buy batteries from other suppliers to do so).

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