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	<title>Comments on: Fuel Cell Chevy Volt for Production in 2011</title>
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		<title>By: Michael C. Robinson</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2007/11/07/fuel-cell-chevy-volt-for-production-in-2011/#comment-136828</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael C. Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are full of yourself and misguided.  Only by using hydrogen 
fuel cell cars can carbon dioxide emissions from vehicles be reduced by 80%.

It doesn&#039;t take any electricity to produce hydrogen if you produce it photochemically.  There are other options as well such as breaking down the oxygen in water to release the hydrogen.  If hydrogen production is the only barrier to fuel cell vehicle adoption, and it
pretty much is at this point, that barrier will come down soon.

Government motors is the mouthpiece for Obama&#039;s 1 million EREVs.
To hell with one million EREVs.  Give me a fuel cell car now or make
them affordable by 2015 and mass produce them.  Displace a significant portion of the vehicles that use 30% of the imported OIL.
That will take GM and the other auto manufacturers selling millions
of fuel cell cars.

There should be an Apollo like program to get to a hydrogen economy if carbon dioxide emissions are as harmful to the environment as scientists believe they are.  Only by using a fuel
cell, not a large battery, can an electric car that produces zero emissions travel 500 miles on a single fill.  Toyota has the best
fuel cell vehicle in the world and it&#039;s an SUV to boot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are full of yourself and misguided.  Only by using hydrogen<br />
fuel cell cars can carbon dioxide emissions from vehicles be reduced by 80%.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t take any electricity to produce hydrogen if you produce it photochemically.  There are other options as well such as breaking down the oxygen in water to release the hydrogen.  If hydrogen production is the only barrier to fuel cell vehicle adoption, and it<br />
pretty much is at this point, that barrier will come down soon.</p>
<p>Government motors is the mouthpiece for Obama&#8217;s 1 million EREVs.<br />
To hell with one million EREVs.  Give me a fuel cell car now or make<br />
them affordable by 2015 and mass produce them.  Displace a significant portion of the vehicles that use 30% of the imported OIL.<br />
That will take GM and the other auto manufacturers selling millions<br />
of fuel cell cars.</p>
<p>There should be an Apollo like program to get to a hydrogen economy if carbon dioxide emissions are as harmful to the environment as scientists believe they are.  Only by using a fuel<br />
cell, not a large battery, can an electric car that produces zero emissions travel 500 miles on a single fill.  Toyota has the best<br />
fuel cell vehicle in the world and it&#8217;s an SUV to boot.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Robinson</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2007/11/07/fuel-cell-chevy-volt-for-production-in-2011/#comment-97799</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Chevy Volt hydrogen is a very good idea.  

Compressed hydrogen tanks are safe, but they are not
 the best option for storing hydrogen both safely and 
compactly.  Liquid hydrogen is currently the best popular 
method of storing hydrogen on a vehicle.  There&#039;s no need 
to go the compressed gas or liquid hydrogen route though 
when you can create a slurry that has the consistency of 
Latex paint and characteristics that allow it to be pumped 
through cheap iron pipes at standard temperature and 
pressure.  This slurry outputs twice the hydrogen of liquid hydrogen for the same space.  

Fuel Cell vehicles like the Toyota FCHV SUV can go 500 
miles on 10k PSI hydrogen now.  Liquid hydrogen stores 
tighter than 10k PSI compressed gas and slurry is 2x 
better than liquid hydrogen for gas produced.  You only
need a fuel tank that is 20% larger than the typical gasoline
tank to fuel a fuel cell car for the distances a gasoline car
can go if you use slurry as a hydrogen source.

There are technologies available to allow hydrogen to go 
through a pipeline as a gas.  A pipeline that can carry h2 
gas costs $500k a mile.  The advantage of an H2 gas 
pipeline is that it can be hidden underground.  It is much 
easier to bury a pipeline than it is to site an electrical line 
that is a serious eyesore.  The other advantage of building 
a H2 gas pipeline infrastructure is that you can upgrade 
the natural gas pipeline network at the same time.  
Natural Gas and hydrogen mixed together in the right 
concentration will go through traditional pipelines.

Fuel cells are the only way to end dependence on foreign
oil.  Batteries are not a solution, especially if you depend
on Lithium that comes from Peru and China.  Bush 
supported fuel cells because he knows that hybrids 
and flex fuel cars are only going to slow consumption
of foreign oil.  There simply isn&#039;t enough farmland even
if you use algae to produce biofuels in the quantities
necessary to replace gasoline and diesel.

The problem with EV zealots is that they ignore the range 
problem.  There is no battery that can power an electric 
vehicle for 300 miles that is both small enough and light 
enough to be installed in a standard sized vehicle.  Even 
hydrogen takes up less space and adds less weight 
than the best comparable battery.  The other thing EV 
zealots ignore is the fact that Lithium is not a U.S. 
commodity.  We simply don&#039;t have any Lithium reserves.

There is plenty of Magnesium available.  Magnesium hydride
slurry is a transport medium for hydrogen that will work with
the current gasoline/diesel infrastructure with very little 
modification.  If waste is used as a source of hydrogen,
methane gas from horse manure, the problem of expensive
electrolysis goes away.  The methane from horse manure
will end up in the atmosphere anyways if you don&#039;t do 
something with it unlike oil pumped out of the ground or coal
mined out of a mountain.

Converting to a hydrogen infrastructure wouldn&#039;t mark the 
beginning of using hydrogen as an industrial gas, it would 
merely mean that more has to be produced and used.  
Hydrogen is used to produce gasoline now, in a hydrogen 
economy we would simply use the hydrogen directly and 
skip producing gasoline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chevy Volt hydrogen is a very good idea.  </p>
<p>Compressed hydrogen tanks are safe, but they are not<br />
 the best option for storing hydrogen both safely and<br />
compactly.  Liquid hydrogen is currently the best popular<br />
method of storing hydrogen on a vehicle.  There&#8217;s no need<br />
to go the compressed gas or liquid hydrogen route though<br />
when you can create a slurry that has the consistency of<br />
Latex paint and characteristics that allow it to be pumped<br />
through cheap iron pipes at standard temperature and<br />
pressure.  This slurry outputs twice the hydrogen of liquid hydrogen for the same space.  </p>
<p>Fuel Cell vehicles like the Toyota FCHV SUV can go 500<br />
miles on 10k PSI hydrogen now.  Liquid hydrogen stores<br />
tighter than 10k PSI compressed gas and slurry is 2x<br />
better than liquid hydrogen for gas produced.  You only<br />
need a fuel tank that is 20% larger than the typical gasoline<br />
tank to fuel a fuel cell car for the distances a gasoline car<br />
can go if you use slurry as a hydrogen source.</p>
<p>There are technologies available to allow hydrogen to go<br />
through a pipeline as a gas.  A pipeline that can carry h2<br />
gas costs $500k a mile.  The advantage of an H2 gas<br />
pipeline is that it can be hidden underground.  It is much<br />
easier to bury a pipeline than it is to site an electrical line<br />
that is a serious eyesore.  The other advantage of building<br />
a H2 gas pipeline infrastructure is that you can upgrade<br />
the natural gas pipeline network at the same time.<br />
Natural Gas and hydrogen mixed together in the right<br />
concentration will go through traditional pipelines.</p>
<p>Fuel cells are the only way to end dependence on foreign<br />
oil.  Batteries are not a solution, especially if you depend<br />
on Lithium that comes from Peru and China.  Bush<br />
supported fuel cells because he knows that hybrids<br />
and flex fuel cars are only going to slow consumption<br />
of foreign oil.  There simply isn&#8217;t enough farmland even<br />
if you use algae to produce biofuels in the quantities<br />
necessary to replace gasoline and diesel.</p>
<p>The problem with EV zealots is that they ignore the range<br />
problem.  There is no battery that can power an electric<br />
vehicle for 300 miles that is both small enough and light<br />
enough to be installed in a standard sized vehicle.  Even<br />
hydrogen takes up less space and adds less weight<br />
than the best comparable battery.  The other thing EV<br />
zealots ignore is the fact that Lithium is not a U.S.<br />
commodity.  We simply don&#8217;t have any Lithium reserves.</p>
<p>There is plenty of Magnesium available.  Magnesium hydride<br />
slurry is a transport medium for hydrogen that will work with<br />
the current gasoline/diesel infrastructure with very little<br />
modification.  If waste is used as a source of hydrogen,<br />
methane gas from horse manure, the problem of expensive<br />
electrolysis goes away.  The methane from horse manure<br />
will end up in the atmosphere anyways if you don&#8217;t do<br />
something with it unlike oil pumped out of the ground or coal<br />
mined out of a mountain.</p>
<p>Converting to a hydrogen infrastructure wouldn&#8217;t mark the<br />
beginning of using hydrogen as an industrial gas, it would<br />
merely mean that more has to be produced and used.<br />
Hydrogen is used to produce gasoline now, in a hydrogen<br />
economy we would simply use the hydrogen directly and<br />
skip producing gasoline.</p>
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		<title>By: ronaldcollins</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2007/11/07/fuel-cell-chevy-volt-for-production-in-2011/#comment-53810</link>
		<dc:creator>ronaldcollins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi there, I use water to fuel a car as a supplement to gasoline. In fact, very little water is needed, only one quart of water provides over 1800 gallons of HHO gas which can literally last for months and significantly increase your car fuel efficiently, improve emissions quality, and save money. I found the way through this site http://www.runcarsonwater.us i really recommend it to everybody, it&#039;s a nice eBook where you can find the instructions on how to do it! take a look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi there, I use water to fuel a car as a supplement to gasoline. In fact, very little water is needed, only one quart of water provides over 1800 gallons of HHO gas which can literally last for months and significantly increase your car fuel efficiently, improve emissions quality, and save money. I found the way through this site <a href="http://www.runcarsonwater.us" rel="nofollow">http://www.runcarsonwater.us</a> i really recommend it to everybody, it&#8217;s a nice eBook where you can find the instructions on how to do it! take a look.</p>
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		<title>By: johnandrews52</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2007/11/07/fuel-cell-chevy-volt-for-production-in-2011/#comment-53590</link>
		<dc:creator>johnandrews52</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we run our car with water and gas?	
Can anybody tell me is the HHO Gas is real working or is another scam?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we run our car with water and gas?<br />
Can anybody tell me is the HHO Gas is real working or is another scam?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff M</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2007/11/07/fuel-cell-chevy-volt-for-production-in-2011/#comment-32140</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Lutz himself now says he doesn&#039;t believe in hydrogen fuel cell powered Volt.... see http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120468405514712501.html with Bob&#039;s comments at the Geneva auto show yesterday.

Bob actually sees 300 mile (on battery) range Volt before hydrogen fuel cells are even remotely viable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Lutz himself now says he doesn&#8217;t believe in hydrogen fuel cell powered Volt&#8230;. see <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120468405514712501.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120468405514712501.html</a> with Bob&#8217;s comments at the Geneva auto show yesterday.</p>
<p>Bob actually sees 300 mile (on battery) range Volt before hydrogen fuel cells are even remotely viable.</p>
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