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Bill H.R. 3776 in Support of Funding Advanced Battery Research Has Passed the House of Representatives
We have previously reported on a bill that was introduced to House of Representatives on 10/16/07, called the Energy Storage Technology Advancement Act of 2007. The bill among other things included $150 million over 5 years for demonstration of vehicle energy storage systems, i.e advanced lithium-ion batteries for plug-in cars (prior post).
The bill was actually rapidly passed by the Congress on 10/22/2007 and was presented to the Senate on 10/23/2007, specifically to the Senate’s Committee on Energy and Natural Resources.(LINK)
It isn’t clear from the Senate website when the bill will be voted on there, but I will reach out to them for clarification.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 11:18 am
It seems like a reasonable and modest appropriation to me. They spend more than that in Iraq before lunch every day.
The lead editorial in this morning’s Los Angeles Times is about $90 plus/barrel oil, and how it enriches and empowers regimes which are either highly unstable or overtly hostile to the US. Not that some of them don’t have good reason.
Not that there’s anything new about this idea, but they do state it prettey effectively.
When the “defense” budget is around $400 billion/year, not counting another $200 billion for Iraq, this seems like a highly cost effective “defense” expenditure.
November 3rd, 2007 at 11:34 am
CFR President: $200/barrel Oil If War With Iran http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=4723
150 million over 5 years. Congress spends more than that on travel and food…
November 3rd, 2007 at 11:40 am
Tim, #2:
Too bloody right. Thanks.
Lyle:
I checked the “Fastlane” blog this morning. The last post was October 23, concerning ethanol - yawn. If not for you, it looks like GM would be off the air.
Maybe Mr. Lutz has gotten all the product development advice he needs from the great unwashed.
November 3rd, 2007 at 12:30 pm
noel #1:
“Not that some of them don’t have good reason.” Oh, nice. Now I’ve heard everything. I’m speechless.
November 3rd, 2007 at 12:39 pm
Every dime we spend in or on the middle east is wrong. When we help strengthen those governments it is wrong. Muslims are evil. Period. We need to get the heck out of there and stay out of there. Let them crumble from within and without our help. The sooner we are off oil, the better for the rest of us.
We don’t belong in Iraq, and Afghanistan should have been destroyed for harboring the people that attacked us.
Bring on the Volt and let’s get off of oil sooner rather than later.
November 3rd, 2007 at 1:58 pm
Our most important goal in the USA is to get rid of our thirst for mideast oil. The sooner the Volt comes out the better!!
November 3rd, 2007 at 2:32 pm
To Rasiid and Jack:
Ditto, my brothers!
November 3rd, 2007 at 2:37 pm
Scott, #4:
I highly recommend “Blowback”, “The Sorrows of Empire”, and “Nemesis” by Professor Chalmers Johnson.
November 3rd, 2007 at 2:45 pm
Rashiid, you are hereby invited to join the Jihad against Oil.
However, I must point out that we do not claim all muslims are evil. Nevertheless, we welcome you with open arms.
May Allah grant you 72 virgins for your insight, inshallah.
Jack: You are hereby invited to join our Jihad too.
Noel: Do us all a favor and take a long walk off of a short pier.
http://www.oiljihad.org
November 3rd, 2007 at 2:47 pm
Scott, you posted your comment before I saw it. You are also invited to join the jihad against oil.
May Persia and Arabia return to life as it was before the discovery of oil, inshallah.
November 3rd, 2007 at 2:49 pm
It would be nice to someday see a “super Li” battery that is capable of tremendous ranges, that is recharged in a matter of minutes and is efficiently manufactured for low cost.
One day we won’t need Petro, E85 or H… just a little juice ;>)
The 150 is a good start !
November 3rd, 2007 at 2:55 pm
Oil Jihadi #9 & #10:
I rest my case.
November 3rd, 2007 at 3:20 pm
Thank you, oil jihadi.
November 3rd, 2007 at 3:32 pm
Oil Jihadi, thank you. And as for the 72 virgins, I would like them in this life rather than the afterlife.
Marty McFly #11, “It would be nice to someday see a “super Li” battery that is capable of tremendous ranges, that is recharged in a matter of minutes and is efficiently manufactured for low cost.”
I am convinced that will happen, it is just a matter of time.
November 3rd, 2007 at 3:46 pm
[quote comment="13120"] Muslims are evil. Period. [/quote]
Seriously? Are we in the 12th century?
What’s with all the ignorant, intolerant posts all of a sudden? I’d like to say goodbye to oil just as much as the rest of you, but some of you need to get a grip.
November 3rd, 2007 at 5:04 pm
Brian M. “Seriously? Are we in the 12th century?”
That is my point. Beheadings, Blowing up children in school buses, killing thousands of innocent Americans, kidnapping and raping, chopping off limbs. This is the 21st century. Muslims belong in the 12th century. They are too barbaric for this century. I was raised to not care about religion or race. I didn’t until Sept. 11. That changed everything for me.
Muslims are evil and don’t belong in this time line.
I want the Volt to work. I want it soon and hope it is built so that everyone will want one.
November 3rd, 2007 at 5:11 pm
If you had said “religion is evil” then I would have totally had your back. But to say that all Muslims are evil is just plain idiotic. I know plenty of Muslims who are not barbaric, and who are in fact great people.
November 3rd, 2007 at 5:20 pm
I lost someone I knew in the Twin Towers.
He was a good guy who did nothing to anyone, but muslims killed him. Sorry you think I am idiotic. I am Arab and have seen how these people think first hand. If you like them, that is your choice. I don’t and that is my choice.
We know there are sleeper cells in the USA. How do you know your Muslims friends aren’t part of it? And, as you say, they are great people, why are they not turning the radicalized Muslims in to the FBI?
I stand by what I said in #16. Good luck with your Muslim friends. I hope your head can remain attached to your shoulders.
I want the Volt and all other EVs PHEVs, etc to work for several reasons, but certainly making the middle east go broke is one of them. Making the oil companies go broke is another.
In truth, this is not the place for this kind of discussion. Sorry everyone.
November 3rd, 2007 at 8:36 pm
150 million…that’s a good ’start’ in my opinion. If the US government is really serious about getting us off foreign oil, they would up the 150 million by a factor of 10…
November 3rd, 2007 at 8:37 pm
Rashiid - I agree that finding an oil alternative is a major step to stopping terrorism (for more than a few reasons), but calling any religious group “evil” is crossing a line, in my opinion. I have known a number of Muslims in my life and all of them have been very nice people (and not terrorists).
Such statements will not help our cause to advance PHEV technology.
November 3rd, 2007 at 8:39 pm
P.S. I am sorry that you lost a friend in the World Trade center attacks. That really sucks.
November 3rd, 2007 at 8:52 pm
You could just blame the “Radical Muslims”. That way it’s more accurate and less racist.
On a side note, “Shock Value” comedy only really exacerbates the situation. Parody can reveal to the perpetrator the ludicrousness of their views.
November 3rd, 2007 at 9:11 pm
Since this thread has been “hijacked”, it’s more appropriate to use the term “Islamic Extremist” instead of “Muslim”.
Pun intended ;>)
November 3rd, 2007 at 9:27 pm
I enjoy free speech and open reasoned debate.
Rashiid Amul has expressed his views based on his knowledge and experiences. Rashiid has my deep respect for sharing his understanding of a troubled culture/religion.
Brian M feels a need to chastise Rashiid for being intolerant then takes a wide swipe calling all religion evil.
Drake states “but calling any religious group “evil” is crossing a line, in my opinion”
Based on the comments above we should then be open minded about the Aztec religion where human sacrifice was performed. From Wikipedia “The Spaniards who first met the Aztecs explicitly stated in their writings that human sacrifice was widely practiced in Mesoamerica.”
Is that an evil religion?
Even though Brian and Drake are intolerant of your comments we must be tolerant with them. They have not done the research into the culture/religion and just make uneducated free speech squelching statements. Unfortunately Rashiid, their attempts to silence your free speech helps the “radicals” in making sure that people remain unaware of the reality of the situation. But we should be tolerant of them, they have free speech to.
Free speech is free speech, if someone truly believes something is wrong/evil then hear them out, do the research, don’t tell them to shut up. Their warnings just might save your life including a nation.
November 3rd, 2007 at 11:54 pm
WOW Lyle
Thanks for not locking down the thread !
Although it might at first seem to have run away I believe this thread is reveling that this car is more than just a new technolagy !! It is also a statement of just how vulnerable the western way of life is and how vulnerable we are feeling right now being dependant on another religion for our way of life !!
The Volts sucsess will help me sleep better.
Mark
November 4th, 2007 at 1:20 am
Hey Lyle its your board, if want it to become another political hashing ground so be it. Seems to me that there is no shortage of places for people to rant about the evils of Muslims … or the Jews or the Blacks or whoever it is that is the “other” of the month … or Bush or Christian fundamentalists or evil atheists for that matter. It is harder to avoid these rants than to find them. What cyperspace is short of is places to read informed focused discussion about EVs in general and the Volt in particular without those hijacks. I was under the impression that this was that one special place. Again its yours to moderate as you see fit. Still, I hope that you reconsider your apparent choice to make this a forum for whatever free speech someone wants to blow off about.
As to the specifics of this threads opener - I’d personally prefer to keep the government out of picking winners in advance and funding the R&D directly and more in the business of providing the market incentives for companies to create solution that meet end goals. These possible methods range from ample and relatively enduring tax credits for RxEVs and BEVs to carbon taxes to Newt Gingrich’s proposed federally sposored X-prizes. If the right incentives are there the market will create and in ways that no politician would have foreseen.
November 4th, 2007 at 6:38 am
Please note Lyle L. is not me Lyle Dennis, editor of the site.
I beleive in freedom of speech which is why I do not censor what is written here. People are passionate and feel comfortable on this site which is why some very hateful things can sometimes be written. Even the U.S. supreme court has upheld “hate speech” as being protected.
This site is about the Volt and the transformational automotive revolution it represents. I express no political views here, my mission is to promote this car and technology and to help keep GM make good on their word and realize how may of us are out here waiting for our Volts, to build a Volt community.
Everyone is welcome here regardless of political or religous affiliation. Please try to keep a friendly welcoming tone in our comments. Remember thousands of new people per day are reading these posts and comments and learning from what we have to say.
Thanks
Lyle J. Dennis, M.D.
btw Im about to go run the NYC marathon..so Ill see you later.
November 4th, 2007 at 10:27 am
Good luck Lyle D. and my apologies for my mistake. And as an occasional endurance athlete (mainly tri’s)I’d ask you to please not forget the number one goal of any endurance event: “Do not die.”
I also believe in freedom of speech but also note that freedom of speech does not mean that you need to provide the forum for that expression. But if a political discussion is to be had …
Islam has a long history and encompasses many belief sets. It must be noted that while Christian Europe was in the midst of the Dark Ages, anti-science, and the Church was routinely practicing torture, that Islamic culture was a relative beacon of scientific progress, intellectual freedom, ands tolerance. The religion is not intrinisically hateful any more than Christianity is. America is, Mark, not under threat “from another religion” … if for no other reason than that America is not a religion. The thinking espoused by some here, such as the “We know there are sleeper cells in the USA. How do you know your Muslims friends aren’t part of it?” is the same sort of mentality that locked up Japanese Americans in in WW2.
Arab society definitely has problems. The biggest battle is between those elements that wish to become part of the modern world’s community of communities, and those who are afraid of it and instead fight for insularity. The West is a prop in that battle. The majority have been taken advantage of by a despotic few who have not invested wisely in their human capital. I am fearful of what will happen as oil becomes irrelevant, as I believe it will as RxEVs and EVs take off. The whole region could erupt into an Iraqi type conflict as despotic regiemes supported by oil money run out of funds and the societies are ill prepared to engage in the modern world of ideas. Not so fearful that I do not look forward to American energy independence however.
November 5th, 2007 at 4:05 pm
Well, if I started this little digression, I would certainly apologize.
I am pretty used to being told to take a long walk off a short pier, so I can deal with that.
I have to agree with Lyle that the purpose of this blog is to encourage/pressure GM to go forward with this car and this technology. I guess that this just shows that there are sort of huge geopolitcal impacts from this that go far beyond each of us saving money on gas.
From reading these comments it seems to me that, even if we may disagree on some political issues, we have a strong common interest in supporting Lyle’s goals, and in doing our bit to help make our country independent from foreign oil imports, and the risks thereof.
April 23rd, 2008 at 9:03 pm
The Volt Sounds Great. Make me one as a mini-suv please!
And urge your congressman to fund development of battery technology. Maybe some government gauranteed loans to some worthy company that can get it done and ramp up production quickly while at the same time including a recycling program for all those dead batteries.
We spend so much on war, how about on something that really will benefit the U.S. and the rest of the world.
Peace.
April 23rd, 2008 at 9:13 pm
This is a great bill. But unfortunately, Mr. Dictator Oil Bush might veto it.