Comments on: EnerDel Gets Contract to Make Batteries For Th!nk http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/15/enerdel-gets-contract-to-make-batteries-for-thnk/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:55:54 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Van http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/15/enerdel-gets-contract-to-make-batteries-for-thnk/#comment-11190 Van Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:14:20 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/15/enerdel-gets-contract-to-make-batteries-for-thnk/#comment-11190 Sorry, I must have confused companies, because I recalled the battery pack was 600 watts for $1500. Perhaps that is not going to the price? And I do not expect to Volt to get 5 MPK overall, but rather 3 to 3.5. Time will tell. Sorry, I must have confused companies, because I recalled the battery pack was 600 watts for $1500. Perhaps that is not going to the price? And I do not expect to Volt to get 5 MPK overall, but rather 3 to 3.5. Time will tell.

]]> By: Dave B http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/15/enerdel-gets-contract-to-make-batteries-for-thnk/#comment-11075 Dave B Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:37:35 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/15/enerdel-gets-contract-to-make-batteries-for-thnk/#comment-11075 Th!nk inked a deal with Tesla a while back didn't they? Wonder if Tesla failed to deliver. Th!nk inked a deal with Tesla a while back didn’t they? Wonder if Tesla failed to deliver.

]]> By: kent beuchert http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/15/enerdel-gets-contract-to-make-batteries-for-thnk/#comment-11069 kent beuchert Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:58:47 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/15/enerdel-gets-contract-to-make-batteries-for-thnk/#comment-11069 "Lets assume the actual range is 90 miles and you get 3 miles per KWH, which means the car will have about a 30 KWH battery. Now if the battery costs $2500 per KWH, its price will be north of $75,000." The Think, smaller than the VOLT (which gets 5 miles per kilowatt hour), will only need around 12 to 14 kilowatt hours to travel 90 miles. Obviously, the battery isn't going to cost $2500 per kilowatt hour, or Think wouldn't buy it. “Lets assume the actual range is 90 miles and you get 3 miles per KWH, which means the car will have about a 30 KWH battery.
Now if the battery costs $2500 per KWH, its price will be north of $75,000.”
The Think, smaller than the VOLT (which gets 5 miles per kilowatt hour), will only need around 12 to 14 kilowatt hours to travel 90 miles. Obviously, the battery isn’t going to cost $2500 per kilowatt hour, or Think wouldn’t buy it.

]]> By: Van http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/15/enerdel-gets-contract-to-make-batteries-for-thnk/#comment-11066 Van Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:52:07 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/15/enerdel-gets-contract-to-make-batteries-for-thnk/#comment-11066 Lets assume the actual range is 90 miles and you get 3 miles per KWH, which means the car will have about a 30 KWH battery. Now if the battery costs $2500 per KWH, its price will be north of $75,000. Hardly competion for the Volt. Lets assume the actual range is 90 miles and you get 3 miles per KWH, which means the car will have about a 30 KWH battery.
Now if the battery costs $2500 per KWH, its price will be north of $75,000. Hardly competion for the Volt.

]]> By: kent beuchert http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/15/enerdel-gets-contract-to-make-batteries-for-thnk/#comment-11049 kent beuchert Tue, 16 Oct 2007 03:12:59 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/15/enerdel-gets-contract-to-make-batteries-for-thnk/#comment-11049 Off topic but important : a new article in Edmunds provides more plausible figure for the 2008 BYD plug-in driving range : it claims 60 miles (and 270 miles when using gas to recharge the batteries). The driving electric range quoted elsewhere (290 miles) was out of line and not plausible. The misunderstanding arose, I think, from the fact that apparently all propulsion is from the battery (ala VOLT), and therefore electric. Top speed is also reduced to 100 MPH rather than the earlier claim of 120. The link: www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=123027 This clears up the question I had about the fishy electric driving range claim. Off topic but important : a new article in Edmunds provides more plausible figure for the 2008 BYD plug-in driving range : it
claims 60 miles (and 270 miles when using gas to recharge the batteries). The driving electric range quoted elsewhere (290 miles) was out of line and not plausible. The misunderstanding arose, I think, from the fact that apparently all propulsion is from the battery (ala VOLT), and therefore electric.
Top speed is also reduced to 100 MPH rather than the earlier claim of 120.
The link:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=123027
This clears up the question I had about the fishy electric driving range claim.

]]> By: Andy http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/15/enerdel-gets-contract-to-make-batteries-for-thnk/#comment-11048 Andy Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:43:53 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/15/enerdel-gets-contract-to-make-batteries-for-thnk/#comment-11048 Think has been around since the mid 90's with little success due to the size and as MarioM said, they "are exclusively for the city." I think that's why the Volt has finally captured our attention: a "city" or commuter electric car that can still go long distances when needed and doesn't look like a kid's toy car. I hope Think does well, but I would have no interest in buying one because it doesn't offer the versatility of the Volt. (BTW-- The Think 'concept' car design hasn't changed in 10 years... it looks very dated even before it gets into production) Think has been around since the mid 90’s with little success due to the size and as MarioM said, they “are exclusively for the city.” I think that’s why the Volt has finally captured our attention: a “city” or commuter electric car that can still go long distances when needed and doesn’t look like a kid’s toy car. I hope Think does well, but I would have no interest in buying one because it doesn’t offer the versatility of the Volt.

(BTW– The Think ‘concept’ car design hasn’t changed in 10 years… it looks very dated even before it gets into production)

]]> By: SteveF http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/15/enerdel-gets-contract-to-make-batteries-for-thnk/#comment-11047 SteveF Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:13:10 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/15/enerdel-gets-contract-to-make-batteries-for-thnk/#comment-11047 A 200 million dollar deal and they have not made or sold one yet. That is very premature. Get them built and when they start selling, then make big claims of millions. A 200 million dollar deal and they have not made or sold one yet. That is very premature. Get them built and when they start selling, then make big claims of millions.

]]> By: MarioM http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/15/enerdel-gets-contract-to-make-batteries-for-thnk/#comment-11036 MarioM Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:18:41 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/15/enerdel-gets-contract-to-make-batteries-for-thnk/#comment-11036 I think these smaller city cars manufactured by companies such as Smart and Reva are exclusively for the city and I'd have safety concerns going on a highway in one of these cars. Therefore, a range extender would be a redundant feature in my opinion. I think these smaller city cars manufactured by companies such as Smart and Reva are exclusively for the city and I’d have safety concerns going on a highway in one of these cars. Therefore, a range extender would be a redundant feature in my opinion.

]]> By: Dave G http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/15/enerdel-gets-contract-to-make-batteries-for-thnk/#comment-11029 Dave G Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:00:35 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/15/enerdel-gets-contract-to-make-batteries-for-thnk/#comment-11029 Do they have any plans to develop a series hybrid with an ICE range extender? Do they have any plans to develop a series hybrid with an ICE range extender?

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