Comments on: Is GM Building the Volt Purely for Political Reasons? http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:07:32 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Deiene Russo http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/#comment-100529 Deiene Russo Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:01:50 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/#comment-100529 Wow! Thank you! I always wanted to write in my site something like that. Can I take part of your post to my blog? Wow! Thank you! I always wanted to write in my site something like that. Can I take part of your post to my blog?

]]> By: John FK http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/#comment-11256 John FK Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:35:18 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/#comment-11256 Politics involved. Don't forget it was Bush who called the conference meeting with the auto execs a while back and let them know where he stood. Apparently, contrary to popular belief, he doesn't support invading every oil producing country around in order to steal their oil for our SUVs and trucks. Those who think the Volt is being produced solely for political reasons and that the technology won't be refined for trucks and SUVs have been giving too much weight to Hillary Clinton's notion that there is a vast right wing conspiracy in this country. Politics involved. Don’t forget it was Bush who called the conference meeting with the auto execs a while back and let them know where he stood. Apparently, contrary to popular belief, he doesn’t support invading every oil producing country around in order to steal their oil for our SUVs and trucks.

Those who think the Volt is being produced solely for political reasons and that the technology won’t be refined for trucks and SUVs have been giving too much weight to Hillary Clinton’s notion that there is a vast right wing conspiracy in this country.

]]> By: Jeff M http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/#comment-11002 Jeff M Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:00:20 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/#comment-11002 The Chinese BYD for $20k... remember that is for the Chinese market... I would imagine it would cost significantly more to meet our road safety standards. In any case, there are lots of EV makers out there world wide... I suggest folks see (though it appears to need updating) http://www.evworld.com/evguide.cfm and http://evfinder.com/full_sized_evs.htm The Chinese BYD for $20k… remember that is for the Chinese market… I would imagine it would cost significantly more to meet our road safety standards.

In any case, there are lots of EV makers out there world wide… I suggest folks see (though it appears to need updating) http://www.evworld.com/evguide.cfm and http://evfinder.com/full_sized_evs.htm

]]> By: Mark Bartosik http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/#comment-10958 Mark Bartosik Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:00:43 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/#comment-10958 RE post #14 On their news page http://www.lionev.com/News_releases.html they state $400 per KWh For 16KWh that's $6400! Also for $29K a new Hyundai accent EV with 200 mile range. I think a similar physical size to Volt, although a lot less sexy. Or for $33K a new Hyundai Tucson EV a 120 mile range (smallish SUV). That's about $16K on top of the cost of the original ICE Hyundai vehicles. RE post #14
On their news page http://www.lionev.com/News_releases.html
they state $400 per KWh

For 16KWh that’s $6400!

Also for $29K a new Hyundai accent EV with 200 mile range. I think a similar physical size to Volt, although a lot less sexy.

Or for $33K a new Hyundai Tucson EV a 120 mile range (smallish SUV).

That’s about $16K on top of the cost of the original ICE Hyundai vehicles.

]]> By: noel park http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/#comment-10935 noel park Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:25:48 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/#comment-10935 SRSCHRIER: According to this week's Autoweek, BYD is going to have a display at the Detroit auto show. I wonder what they will be bringing? Several other Chinese car companies are scheduled to appear as well. I am as dubious as anyone about these claims, and the "iron" batteries. On the other hand, if they actually can do something like this, let alone with a price point of $19,000, it's going to be game over in Detroit. SRSCHRIER:

According to this week’s Autoweek, BYD is going to have a display at the Detroit auto show. I wonder what they will be bringing?

Several other Chinese car companies are scheduled to appear as well.

I am as dubious as anyone about these claims, and the “iron” batteries. On the other hand, if they actually can do something like this, let alone with a price point of $19,000, it’s going to be game over in Detroit.

]]> By: Estero http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/#comment-10919 Estero Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:34:42 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/#comment-10919 GM likely has several motivations for building the Volt, including the matter of "survival". I agree with Rashiid Amul when he said "I could care less what GM’s motivation is for building this car. I just want them to build it." GM likely has several motivations for building the Volt, including the matter of “survival”.

I agree with Rashiid Amul when he said “I could care less what GM’s motivation is for building this car. I just want them to build it.”

]]> By: omegaman66 http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/#comment-10913 omegaman66 Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:43:55 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/#comment-10913 [quote]Rashiid Amul said I could care less what GM’s motivation is for building this car. I just want them to build it. I said before and I’ll say again, the CAFE is a waste of time when you have the hybrids on the verge of making a revolutionary change in transportation. Forget CAFE and let the change happen naturally. [/quote] Well said. But I want to say that GM is not building this car just for political reasons. I am not one to tout the smarts of upper management or politicians but do any of you really think that anyone at GM actually thinks the Volt is NOT the wave of the future? [quote]Rashiid Amul said I could care less what GM’s motivation is for building this car. I just want them to build it. I said before and I’ll say again, the CAFE is a waste of time when you have the hybrids on the verge of making a revolutionary change in transportation. Forget CAFE and let the change happen naturally. [/quote]

Well said. But I want to say that GM is not building this car just for political reasons. I am not one to tout the smarts of upper management or politicians but do any of you really think that anyone at GM actually thinks the Volt is NOT the wave of the future?

]]> By: ug http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/#comment-10901 ug Sun, 14 Oct 2007 07:50:03 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/#comment-10901 "What about the Lionev.com company on the east coast of the U.S.? Their site advertises two new 100% plug-in EVs with a range of up to 400 miles with a cost of around $40,000.(US). Is this competition for the Volt?" No. They are merely conversions of existing cars and they are not series hybrids. “What about the Lionev.com company on the east coast of the U.S.? Their site advertises two new 100% plug-in EVs with a range of up to 400 miles with a cost of around $40,000.(US). Is this competition for the Volt?”

No. They are merely conversions of existing cars and they are not series hybrids.

]]> By: Questions http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/#comment-10894 Questions Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:27:12 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/#comment-10894 This wouldn't be surprising. Our government is so large, unwieldy and meddlesome now that nobody is safe from it's "fixing". Too bad many voters do not see this for what it is. This wouldn’t be surprising.

Our government is so large, unwieldy and meddlesome now that nobody is safe from it’s “fixing”.

Too bad many voters do not see this for what it is.

]]> By: SRSCHRIER http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/#comment-10893 SRSCHRIER Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:15:53 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/13/is-gm-building-the-volt-purely-for-political-reasons/#comment-10893 What about the Lionev.com company on the east coast of the U.S.? Their site advertises two new 100% plug-in EVs with a range of up to 400 miles with a cost of around $40,000.(US). Is this competition for the Volt? The recently announced BYD-F6 Chinese dual engine plug-in, said to have a range of 400 km (240 miles) on electricity alone and a top speed of 160 km/hr (96 mph) on battery power alone uses a new type of iron battery. A separate gas engine apparently can power the car also. Anyone care to guess if BYDs will appear in the U.S. anytime soon? What about the Lionev.com company on the east coast of the U.S.? Their site advertises two new 100% plug-in EVs with a range of up to 400 miles with a cost of around $40,000.(US). Is this competition for the Volt?

The recently announced BYD-F6 Chinese dual engine plug-in, said to have a range of 400 km (240 miles) on electricity alone and a top speed of 160 km/hr (96 mph) on battery power alone uses a new type of iron battery. A separate gas engine apparently can power the car also. Anyone care to guess if BYDs will appear in the U.S. anytime soon?

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