Comments on: Japanese Government Pledges $215 Million USD to Develop Lithium-ion Batteries for PHEVs http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/03/japanese-government-pledges-215-million-usd-to-develop-lithium-ion-batteries-for-phevs/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Thu, 24 May 2012 18:25:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: law http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/03/japanese-government-pledges-215-million-usd-to-develop-lithium-ion-batteries-for-phevs/#comment-10683 law Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:56:24 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/03/japanese-government-pledges-215-million-usd-to-develop-lithium-ion-batteries-for-phevs/#comment-10683 215 million isn't much either, the USA needs to end this war, reduce the military budget from what more then a trillion to only 300 billion, and put 100 billion into research each year that will directly or indirectly lead to our oil independence in the future. What happened to us? What's wrong with this country? 215 million isn’t much either, the USA needs to end this war, reduce the military budget from what more then a trillion to only 300 billion, and put 100 billion into research each year that will directly or indirectly lead to our oil independence in the future.

What happened to us? What’s wrong with this country?

]]> By: omegaman66 http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/03/japanese-government-pledges-215-million-usd-to-develop-lithium-ion-batteries-for-phevs/#comment-9902 omegaman66 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:39:23 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/03/japanese-government-pledges-215-million-usd-to-develop-lithium-ion-batteries-for-phevs/#comment-9902 What kent beuchert said in his first paragraph! What kent beuchert said in his first paragraph!

]]> By: wow http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/03/japanese-government-pledges-215-million-usd-to-develop-lithium-ion-batteries-for-phevs/#comment-9757 wow Thu, 04 Oct 2007 11:52:35 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/03/japanese-government-pledges-215-million-usd-to-develop-lithium-ion-batteries-for-phevs/#comment-9757 O.Jeff, There are allot of poor people and small businiesses in this country who would get crushed by higher fuel taxes. While I think tax rebates for plugin cars is a good idea, we need to find a way to fund that from the rich folk... O.Jeff,
There are allot of poor people and small businiesses in this country who would get crushed by higher fuel taxes. While I think tax rebates for plugin cars is a good idea, we need to find a way to fund that from the rich folk…

]]> By: O.Jeff http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/03/japanese-government-pledges-215-million-usd-to-develop-lithium-ion-batteries-for-phevs/#comment-9671 O.Jeff Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:47:52 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/03/japanese-government-pledges-215-million-usd-to-develop-lithium-ion-batteries-for-phevs/#comment-9671 I think it is wrong to fund research like Japan is doing. This is a waste of money. It will not produce any results. I don't think the existing U.S. battery coalition has produced anything of substance. The better approach would be to create demand for the end product. In other words, the government should dramatically increase gasoline taxes and use the tax increases to fund very substantial ($4-6,000) rebates to purchasers of battery electric or plug-in hybrid vehicles. With these stable and predictable incentives in place, the manufacturers and battery suppliers will be able to finance whatever research they feel is necessary to make the products. I think we could replace a good chunk of our automotive fleet in 10 years if such policies were in place. As it is, I think the Volt is very likely to become the "new Prius" just as soon as it goes on sale. Everyone who might have considered a Prius will have the Volt at the top of their list. Moreover, I think virtually every Prius owner may be a candidate for an upgrade to a Volt. I think it is wrong to fund research like Japan is doing. This is a waste of money. It will not produce any results. I don’t think the existing U.S. battery coalition has produced anything of substance.

The better approach would be to create demand for the end product. In other words, the government should dramatically increase gasoline taxes and use the tax increases to fund very substantial ($4-6,000) rebates to purchasers of battery electric or plug-in hybrid vehicles.

With these stable and predictable incentives in place, the manufacturers and battery suppliers will be able to finance whatever research they feel is necessary to make the products.

I think we could replace a good chunk of our automotive fleet in 10 years if such policies were in place.

As it is, I think the Volt is very likely to become the “new Prius” just as soon as it goes on sale. Everyone who might have considered a Prius will have the Volt at the top of their list. Moreover, I think virtually every Prius owner may be a candidate for an upgrade to a Volt.

]]> By: AES http://gm-volt.com/2007/10/03/japanese-government-pledges-215-million-usd-to-develop-lithium-ion-batteries-for-phevs/#comment-9670 AES Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:00:24 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/10/03/japanese-government-pledges-215-million-usd-to-develop-lithium-ion-batteries-for-phevs/#comment-9670 FYI, ABG just ran a story on a similar topic: "http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/10/03/gm-and-johnson-controls-say-the-government-must-help-develop-nex/ "GM and Johnson Controls say the government must help develop next-gen batteries" What they may be saying is that while batteries currently exist that can fulfil the midterm goals of organizations like USCAR, further improvement is going to require a lot of basic research on fundamental things like electroytes, electrodes, etc. Don't forget, A123 and lithium iron phosphate cells as a whole are ultimately derived from scientific discoveries that were made in universities. In general, universities may derive money from patent licensing of their inventions, but a lot of the money for the actual, initial research often comes from the National Science Foundation. NSF funding is already severely compromised. If a basic battery researcher could land a DARPA grant, that would be great. Saft already has ties to hybrid military vehicle development: http://www.army-technology.com/projects/shadow/ FYI, ABG just ran a story on a similar topic:

“http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/10/03/gm-and-johnson-controls-say-the-government-must-help-develop-nex/

“GM and Johnson Controls say the government must help develop next-gen batteries”

What they may be saying is that while batteries currently exist that can fulfil the midterm goals of organizations like USCAR, further improvement is going to require a lot of basic research on fundamental things like electroytes, electrodes, etc. Don’t forget, A123 and lithium iron phosphate cells as a whole are ultimately derived from scientific discoveries that were made in universities. In general, universities may derive money from patent licensing of their inventions, but a lot of the money for the actual, initial research often comes from the National Science Foundation.

NSF funding is already severely compromised. If a basic battery researcher could land a DARPA grant, that would be great. Saft already has ties to hybrid military vehicle development:

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/shadow/

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