Comments on: GM Building New Design Center For Upcoming E-Flex Fleet http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/11/gm-building-new-design-center-for-upcoming-e-flex-fleet/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:55:54 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Donny Mckenzie http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/11/gm-building-new-design-center-for-upcoming-e-flex-fleet/#comment-37561 Donny Mckenzie Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:00:02 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/09/11/gm-building-new-design-center-for-upcoming-e-flex-fleet/#comment-37561 urochloralic tuffaceous sora adenolymphoma smashup downhaul casuistically nickelodeon <a href="http://norfolktouringco.nf/" rel="nofollow">The Norfolk Island Touring Company</a> http://www.planyourprofit.com urochloralic tuffaceous sora adenolymphoma smashup downhaul casuistically nickelodeon
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]]> By: BUCK MAYO http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/11/gm-building-new-design-center-for-upcoming-e-flex-fleet/#comment-27462 BUCK MAYO Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:57:57 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/09/11/gm-building-new-design-center-for-upcoming-e-flex-fleet/#comment-27462 MR WELBURN PUT SMALLER 6.6 IN CAMARO BIO DIESEL MR WELBURN PUT SMALLER 6.6 IN CAMARO BIO DIESEL

]]> By: BUCK MAYO http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/11/gm-building-new-design-center-for-upcoming-e-flex-fleet/#comment-27461 BUCK MAYO Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:51:08 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/09/11/gm-building-new-design-center-for-upcoming-e-flex-fleet/#comment-27461 I DRIVE EVERY CHEVY OR GM THAT GOES OVER SEAS AND THE KING OF GM IS THE 6.6 DIESEL DOULLY NOW i LOVE THIS TRUCK AND ENG PUT A BORG/WOGNER OVERDRIVE IN IT AND MAKE IT BIO AND YOU GOT SOMETHING NEXT ADD SOLOR TO IT MAKE IT THE SIZE OF THE ACADA OR S10 I DRIVE EVERY CHEVY OR GM THAT GOES OVER SEAS AND THE KING OF GM IS THE 6.6 DIESEL DOULLY NOW i LOVE THIS TRUCK AND ENG PUT A BORG/WOGNER OVERDRIVE IN IT AND MAKE IT BIO AND YOU GOT SOMETHING NEXT ADD SOLOR TO IT MAKE IT THE SIZE OF THE ACADA OR S10

]]> By: BUCKY MAYO http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/11/gm-building-new-design-center-for-upcoming-e-flex-fleet/#comment-12115 BUCKY MAYO Fri, 26 Oct 2007 01:31:24 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/09/11/gm-building-new-design-center-for-upcoming-e-flex-fleet/#comment-12115 MR LUTZ As i said before old timer s made gm what it is and you need to build some of our designs like a smaller new 55 56 and 57 BIO-DESEL hybrd built one year to see how much money rolls in from the old timer s and put chevy and gm back at the Head of the class OH thank you mr lutz you know what for MR LUTZ
As i said before old timer s made gm what it is and you need to build some of our designs like a smaller new 55 56 and 57 BIO-DESEL hybrd built one year to see how much money rolls in from the old timer s and put chevy and gm back at the Head of the class
OH thank you mr lutz you know what for

]]> By: Howard Buckalew http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/11/gm-building-new-design-center-for-upcoming-e-flex-fleet/#comment-7378 Howard Buckalew Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:10:43 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/09/11/gm-building-new-design-center-for-upcoming-e-flex-fleet/#comment-7378 I just hope the I will be able to fit in the Volt. I am 6 ft 3 inches. I weigh 250 lbs. I have bought about 10 gm cars, trucks, and vans. (Chevy, Pontiac, and Saturn.) My pickup (HD2500 duramax) will be paid of in 16 months. We are going to hold off to buy another car, and give the volt a try. If I can fit in it. I travel 12 miles one way to work. If I go to the gym, I'll travel an extra 5 miles. The volt could cut my gas consumption to zero. And wit hflex fuel, I can shop for the cheapest price, gas or desiel. What a hoot!!! I just hope the design will take into consideration the larger American consumer. I just hope the I will be able to fit in the Volt. I am 6 ft 3 inches. I weigh 250 lbs. I have bought about 10 gm cars, trucks, and vans. (Chevy, Pontiac, and Saturn.) My pickup (HD2500 duramax) will be paid of in 16 months. We are going to hold off to buy another car, and give the volt a try. If I can fit in it. I travel 12 miles one way to work. If I go to the gym, I’ll travel an extra 5 miles. The volt could cut my gas consumption to zero. And wit hflex fuel, I can shop for the cheapest price, gas or desiel. What a hoot!!! I just hope the design will take into consideration the larger American consumer.

]]> By: Dave G http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/11/gm-building-new-design-center-for-upcoming-e-flex-fleet/#comment-7340 Dave G Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:33:15 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/09/11/gm-building-new-design-center-for-upcoming-e-flex-fleet/#comment-7340 John - Yes, the ICE is a masterpiece of engineering, and definately has its uses. That's why an ICE is part of the E-Flex design. But the ICE also has some drawbacks: 1) ICE power and torque are high only for a limited range of RPMs. That's why ICEs require a transmission. Electric motors have high power and torque over much wider range - no transmission required. 2) A larger ICE will have more available power, but will be less efficient for the same size vehicle. Larger electric motors are both more powerful and more efficient. So what if you could take the best of both worlds - combine what's best about ICE and electric motors, and get rid of what sucks about each of them. That's what E-Flex is all about. John – Yes, the ICE is a masterpiece of engineering, and definately has its uses. That’s why an ICE is part of the E-Flex design.

But the ICE also has some drawbacks:

1) ICE power and torque are high only for a limited range of RPMs. That’s why ICEs require a transmission. Electric motors have high power and torque over much wider range – no transmission required.

2) A larger ICE will have more available power, but will be less efficient for the same size vehicle. Larger electric motors are both more powerful and more efficient.

So what if you could take the best of both worlds – combine what’s best about ICE and electric motors, and get rid of what sucks about each of them. That’s what E-Flex is all about.

]]> By: John http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/11/gm-building-new-design-center-for-upcoming-e-flex-fleet/#comment-7313 John Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:44:06 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/09/11/gm-building-new-design-center-for-upcoming-e-flex-fleet/#comment-7313 [quote comment="7232"]GM head of Europe two weeks ago said that the Opel Flextreme would launch late 2010. Lutz I believe said that the VOLT will launch first, which means sometime before late 2010, as in early 2010, conceivably late 2009 as another Lutz bombshell move. To me, once they have the battery pack, they pretty much have done all the heavy lifting. One thing's for sure. Once they have one finished, those that follow will be mostly sheetmetal(well, composite) jobs that can be whipped out pretty fast. I foresee Saturn crossover akin to Flextreme and Pontiac sporty coupe, perhaps roadster version, with emphasis on performance.[/quote] Don't count on composite. That is expensive and difficult to mass-produce (especially by 2010. It will be metal--and we can only hope for aluminum (which would also raise the price considerably). [quote comment="7232"]GM head of Europe two weeks ago said that the Opel Flextreme would launch late 2010.
Lutz I believe said that the VOLT will launch first, which means sometime before late 2010, as in early 2010, conceivably late 2009 as another Lutz bombshell move.
To me, once they have the battery pack, they pretty much have done all the heavy
lifting. One thing’s for sure. Once they have one finished, those that follow will be mostly sheetmetal(well, composite) jobs that can be whipped out pretty fast. I foresee Saturn crossover akin to Flextreme and Pontiac sporty coupe, perhaps roadster version, with emphasis on performance.[/quote]
Don’t count on composite. That is expensive and difficult to mass-produce (especially by 2010.
It will be metal–and we can only hope for aluminum (which would also raise the price considerably).

]]> By: John http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/11/gm-building-new-design-center-for-upcoming-e-flex-fleet/#comment-7312 John Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:40:23 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/09/11/gm-building-new-design-center-for-upcoming-e-flex-fleet/#comment-7312 [quote comment="7181"]There is no question in my mind that GM is serious about bringing the VOLT to production. I can visualize the day not too far in the future when all GM cars will be based upon the E-Flex design.[/quote] Please don't. The ICE is a masterpiece of engineering (as evidenced by its longevity) and has its uses. It is not the cause of world evil. [quote comment="7181"]There is no question in my mind that GM is serious about bringing the VOLT to production.

I can visualize the day not too far in the future when all GM cars will be based upon the E-Flex design.[/quote]
Please don’t.

The ICE is a masterpiece of engineering (as evidenced by its longevity) and has its uses.
It is not the cause of world evil.

]]> By: Dave G http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/11/gm-building-new-design-center-for-upcoming-e-flex-fleet/#comment-7234 Dave G Tue, 11 Sep 2007 23:03:58 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/09/11/gm-building-new-design-center-for-upcoming-e-flex-fleet/#comment-7234 I am very encouraged by this. A dedicated development team is a big deal. It means nobody will get yanked to work on other projects. I've seen many development projects staffed by engineers who are supposedly 70% on the new project and 30% on other projects, only to find that 95% of their time is spent on the other projects. So a dedicated development team is a big deal. Also, the fact that they are fine tuning things means that they are serious about moving toward production. In addition, the mention of "futher projects beyond the Volt" is extremely positive. It means that the marketing folks realize E-Flex will have mass appeal. The only reason for caution is to remind ourselves that GM is a big company, and big companies sometimes cancel big projects. No matter how much E-Flex marketing zeal and engineering vigor exists within GM, a decision from the top can change things overnight. Let's hope the GM board continues to back a gas/electric E-Flex vehicle. I am very encouraged by this. A dedicated development team is a big deal. It means nobody will get yanked to work on other projects. I’ve seen many development projects staffed by engineers who are supposedly 70% on the new project and 30% on other projects, only to find that 95% of their time is spent on the other projects. So a dedicated development team is a big deal.

Also, the fact that they are fine tuning things means that they are serious about moving toward production.

In addition, the mention of “futher projects beyond the Volt” is extremely positive. It means that the marketing folks realize E-Flex will have mass appeal.

The only reason for caution is to remind ourselves that GM is a big company, and big companies sometimes cancel big projects. No matter how much E-Flex marketing zeal and engineering vigor exists within GM, a decision from the top can change things overnight. Let’s hope the GM board continues to back a gas/electric E-Flex vehicle.

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