Comments on: The Opel Flextreme http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:07:32 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Inhabitat » TRANSPORTATION TUESDAY: Green Means Go in Frankfurt http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/#comment-130065 Inhabitat » TRANSPORTATION TUESDAY: Green Means Go in Frankfurt Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:36:01 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/#comment-130065 [...] 2. GM Flextreme Probably one of the most talked about cars of the show so far has been Opel’s Flextreme. This concept vehicle is essentially a plug-in electric hybrid with a 1.3 Liter diesel engine a lithium-ion battery pack. What’s remarkable about it is the fact that Opel is a subsidiary of General Motors, who quite famously killed their version of the electric car. To see them embrace hybrids and electric vehicles can only mean one thing: The tide is turning. Expect to see this technology on GM’s vehicles within the next three years. Oh, and did we mention that it comes with two Segways? [...] [...] 2. GM Flextreme Probably one of the most talked about cars of the show so far has been Opel’s Flextreme. This concept vehicle is essentially a plug-in electric hybrid with a 1.3 Liter diesel engine a lithium-ion battery pack. What’s remarkable about it is the fact that Opel is a subsidiary of General Motors, who quite famously killed their version of the electric car. To see them embrace hybrids and electric vehicles can only mean one thing: The tide is turning. Expect to see this technology on GM’s vehicles within the next three years. Oh, and did we mention that it comes with two Segways? [...]

]]> By: EcoWorld - The Global Environmental Community - Nature and Technology in Harmony http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/#comment-36960 EcoWorld - The Global Environmental Community - Nature and Technology in Harmony Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:08:07 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/#comment-36960 [...] automakers, Volvo has announced the C30 concept car, which is similar to GM’s Opel “Flextreme” concept, that is, an EREV series hybrid just like the Volt, but using an onboard diesel [...] [...] automakers, Volvo has announced the C30 concept car, which is similar to GM’s Opel “Flextreme” concept, that is, an EREV series hybrid just like the Volt, but using an onboard diesel [...]

]]> By: Jarret http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/#comment-31126 Jarret Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:34:34 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/#comment-31126 A $800 solar panel would take about a week to charge a volt. (I have 62 of those panels on my house). As for the EV1 and others watch the movie "who killed the electric car" it's corny the facts are accurate. As long as GM and our Gov. both repub. and dems. are in bed with big oil they will always keep us looking to the next maybee. Lith-ion batteries have been out for years. If GM was to release the Opel version of the eflex and sell it for $25,000 (without a bunch of useless crap like scooters) , They could mass produce them and they would be the #1 selling car in the world. But they won't they make 5 thousand of them, have old ladies in their comercials like the EV1, and then feed the nation another load of crap about how we just weren't ready for electric cars. As for the other big oil lie about our electricity being as bad as gas due to coal. Even if 100% of your electric came from coal (wich it's not) it would still be 40% less poluting than gas. Tesla motors will have a all electric sedan before the Volt and it will go 300 miles on a charge. The difference: their not in bed with exxon/mobil. Watch WHO KILLED THE ELECTRIC CAR. A $800 solar panel would take about a week to charge a volt. (I have 62 of those panels on my house). As for the EV1 and others watch the movie “who killed the electric car” it’s corny the facts are accurate. As long as GM and our Gov. both repub. and dems. are in bed with big oil they will always keep us looking to the next maybee. Lith-ion batteries have been out for years.
If GM was to release the Opel version of the eflex and sell it for $25,000 (without a bunch of useless crap like scooters) , They could mass produce them and they would be the #1 selling car in the world. But they won’t they make 5 thousand of them, have old ladies in their comercials like the EV1, and then feed the nation another load of crap about how we just weren’t ready for electric cars.
As for the other big oil lie about our electricity being as bad as gas due to coal. Even if 100% of your electric came from coal (wich it’s not) it would still be 40% less poluting than gas. Tesla motors will have a all electric sedan before the Volt and it will go 300 miles on a charge. The difference: their not in bed with exxon/mobil. Watch WHO KILLED THE ELECTRIC CAR.

]]> By: luis http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/#comment-15438 luis Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:59:45 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/#comment-15438 first of all, i would like to say hi to all people in this forum. and, i believe that you´ll find some errors in my "speech". so, i believe that, this concepts are a great start to the "slow down" of the global warming. i´ve read the first comment that i belive that´s selfish i mean, i believe that the americans weren´t the first ones to do something to stop the global warming. in fact they can´t say anithing about that because they are the biggest consumer of oil and, their cars, please... here in europe, our cars don´t have the cc. that in america has. so, less co2 less consuption, more worries about the global warming. there´s the toyota hibrid, that i´ve heard many american people in tv saying: "down the hibrid toyota..." in some car show´s that were showing big muscled cars... now tell me were did the americans are worried about this subject? i believe that are but thei´re few... i believe that this car, is a great start to a better world. so bring it on. yesterday was too late... ;) hugs and kissies. :D first of all, i would like to say hi to all people in this forum.
and, i believe that you´ll find some errors in my “speech”.
so, i believe that, this concepts are a great start to the “slow down” of the global warming.
i´ve read the first comment that i belive that´s selfish i mean, i believe that the americans weren´t the first ones to do something to stop the global warming. in fact they can´t say anithing about that because they are the biggest consumer of oil and, their cars, please… here in europe, our cars don´t have the cc. that in america has. so, less co2 less consuption, more worries about the global warming.
there´s the toyota hibrid, that i´ve heard many american people in tv saying: “down the hibrid toyota…” in some car show´s that were showing big muscled cars… now tell me were did the americans are worried about this subject?
i believe that are but thei´re few…
i believe that this car, is a great start to a better world. so bring it on. yesterday was too late… ;)
hugs and kissies. :D

]]> By: Chris Jackson http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/#comment-7544 Chris Jackson Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:49:00 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/#comment-7544 I am really looking forward to either of these cars. I am saving ca$h right now so I can buy one as soon as they come out. As I live in Los Angeles there are not many places where the Segways will become a daily use. I\'d opt not to include them. How about a bike rack (for the inside). I am really looking forward to either of these cars. I am saving ca$h right now so I can buy one as soon as they come out. As I live in Los Angeles there are not many places where the Segways will become a daily use. I\’d opt not to include them. How about a bike rack (for the inside).

]]> By: Chris Jackson http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/#comment-7542 Chris Jackson Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:48:20 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/#comment-7542 I am really looking forward to either of these cars. I am saving ca$h right now so I can buy one as soon as they come out. As I love in Los Angeles there are not many places where the Segways will become a daily use. I'd opt not to include them. How about a bike rack (for the inside). I am really looking forward to either of these cars. I am saving ca$h right now so I can buy one as soon as they come out. As I love in Los Angeles there are not many places where the Segways will become a daily use. I’d opt not to include them. How about a bike rack (for the inside).

]]> By: Dave G http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/#comment-7539 Dave G Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:29:34 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/#comment-7539 Talking about renewable energy right now is like telling a heroin addict that junk food is bad for you. Yeah, junk food is bad, but if it somehow helps you kick the habit, then it’s good right now. You can shop at the health food store after you've broken the addiction. So let’s stop bashing coal and other non-renewables, and focus on breaking our addiction to oil. Once PHEVs go mainstream, then we can start the push to increase renewable sources of electricity. If we try to do everything all at once, it will end up taking longer. Talking about renewable energy right now is like telling a heroin addict that junk food is bad for you. Yeah, junk food is bad, but if it somehow helps you kick the habit, then it’s good right now. You can shop at the health food store after you’ve broken the addiction.

So let’s stop bashing coal and other non-renewables, and focus on breaking our addiction to oil. Once PHEVs go mainstream, then we can start the push to increase renewable sources of electricity.

If we try to do everything all at once, it will end up taking longer.

]]> By: Monica http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/#comment-7524 Monica Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:23:49 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/#comment-7524 I WANT THIS CAR SO BAD!!!! When can I get it???????? I WANT THIS CAR SO BAD!!!! When can I get it????????

]]> By: Twitchy http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/#comment-7517 Twitchy Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:47:46 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/#comment-7517 [quote comment="7334"]I like the new Flextreme and Volt concepts,and your new hybrid offerings, but why are they only limited availability or lease only vehicles? Also I noticed one electric vehicle being offered is using a gas generator towed in a trailer as a solution for longer journeys than a fully charged battery will allow. Is there anything in the works at GM along these lines? I suspect there are others who are wondering why such a thing hasn\'t become commonplace already. Here is a link to just one. http://www.metrompg.com/posts/phev-pusher-trailer.htm[/quote] There is no talk that the next iteration of PHEV from GM will be limited release, nor lease only vehicles. There is talk of leasing the battery pack, not the whole vehicle. I don't understand why you would want to tow a generator along - wouldn't the added weight and drag reduce efficiency during a long trip to the point that it would have been more efficient to go with a PHEV in the first place? [quote comment="7334"]I like the new Flextreme and Volt concepts,and your new hybrid offerings, but why are they only limited availability or lease only vehicles? Also I noticed one electric vehicle being offered is using a gas generator towed in a trailer as a solution for longer journeys than a fully charged battery will allow. Is there anything in the works at GM along these lines? I suspect there are others who are wondering why such a thing hasn\’t become commonplace already. Here is a link to just one. http://www.metrompg.com/posts/phev-pusher-trailer.htm/quote
There is no talk that the next iteration of PHEV from GM will be limited release, nor lease only vehicles. There is talk of leasing the battery pack, not the whole vehicle.
I don’t understand why you would want to tow a generator along – wouldn’t the added weight and drag reduce efficiency during a long trip to the point that it would have been more efficient to go with a PHEV in the first place?

]]> By: Nick D http://gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/#comment-7453 Nick D Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:09:26 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/09/10/the-opel-flextreme/#comment-7453 Solar Panels are inefficient--and not everybody lives in Nevada to boot. Let us return to reality.[/quote] John - they may be inefficient but they still provide a substansial amount of electricity if placed on the roof of a house, I helped my cousin install PV cells on his roof and the energy that he buys from a power plant has been cut in half, he lives in Minneapolis and his his panels provide him about 500-700 KWH per month depending on the season. If every house in the US had solar panels that would reduce the need for a lot of power in our country. In order for it to make a difference there needs to be a collective effort by society, and we need to get rid the pessimistic like mentality like yours. The Volt is a great car, and imagine how much less oil would be needed if every family in the US traded in just one gas car for a series hybrid. Solar Panels are inefficient–and not everybody lives in Nevada to boot.
Let us return to reality.[/quote]

John – they may be inefficient but they still provide a substansial amount of electricity if placed on the roof of a house, I helped my cousin install PV cells on his roof and the energy that he buys from a power plant has been cut in half, he lives in Minneapolis and his his panels provide him about 500-700 KWH per month depending on the season. If every house in the US had solar panels that would reduce the need for a lot of power in our country.

In order for it to make a difference there needs to be a collective effort by society, and we need to get rid the pessimistic like mentality like yours.

The Volt is a great car, and imagine how much less oil would be needed if every family in the US traded in just one gas car for a series hybrid.

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